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#58986 UEFA Champions League 2012 - 2013 Thread

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05 Mar 2013 21:42:22

By rossiheslopi | Permalink | On 05 March 2013 - 21:41 PM

If that had been, dare I say it, Suarez clapping in the face of the ref sarcastically then he'd be getting ripped to shreds right about now

Although to be fair, I'd have done same as him I reckon

Suarez has never, ever been hard-done by to that extent.

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05 Mar 2013 21:41:44

We'll just tear Chelsea a new one at the weekend.

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05 Mar 2013 21:39:24

Ronaldo and Mourinho were both class acts tonight, hope they go all the way now.

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05 Mar 2013 21:13:16

I can't believe the ref has decided the outcome of the biggest tie of the round- and now he's booking our players for fun. Lol, Carrick well-known for his temperament.

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05 Mar 2013 19:36:30

By Ninja | Permalink | On 05 March 2013 - 19:19 PM

Probably should left RVP out and played De Gea upfront. That would throw them.

Come on.

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05 Mar 2013 19:02:00

Good for him.

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05 Mar 2013 18:58:30

Could turn out to be utter genius. Mourinho certainly wouldn't have his team set up without Rooney being taken into consideration and now their game-plan might have to be adjusted with just an hour to go.

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05 Mar 2013 00:19:56

By Obtuse | Permalink | On 05 March 2013 - 00:07 AM

4-1 for Madrid

I really hope not.

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04 Mar 2013 22:24:56

All three of those players fit that description, nothing to do with their ethnicity. I suppose everyone lambasting Nile Ranger for having a poor attitude are racists as well by your bizarre and accusatory tone?

EDIT: I assume you don't know that 'swaggering' is an old English word which just means to act in an overconfident manner, and it is not strictly reserved for urban community dialects.

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04 Mar 2013 22:10:41

By Shola | Permalink | On 04 March 2013 - 22:08 PM

Post definitely not racist. Not even in the slightest.

Why are you assuming their ethnicity makes them cockheads? I didn't even realize until you just pointed that out now.

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04 Mar 2013 21:53:47

Villa were way too cautious there, whenever somebody had to make a risky pass, they just ended up back at their goalkeeper.

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04 Mar 2013 21:38:08

Confusing tactics from Lambert- Agbonlahor clearly has pace, but can't beat his man whereas N'Zogbia is playing ineffectively in a central midfield role, because his best asset is his crossing ability.

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04 Mar 2013 21:18:16

I reckon it will be an emotional late-winner for United, maybe a 2-1, or a 3-2.

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04 Mar 2013 21:00:47

He slips, and then Dzeko clipped him sufficiently to make it more difficult for him to atone for his error, so he's really unlucky. Nevertheless, Tevez's finishing was immense.

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04 Mar 2013 20:56:05

Fair enough.

Let's talk tomorrow then- scoreline predictions?

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04 Mar 2013 20:49:20

So you don't think Gerrard was the most influential player in Liverpool's 2005 European campaign?

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04 Mar 2013 20:48:09

I didn't see the replays, I thought Dzeko clipped him sufficiently for Riley to let him off with a foul.

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04 Mar 2013 20:21:59

It's a big night for players like Gabriel Agbonlahor, playing the champions in a televised game. I remember when he was hotly tipped to be in the England squad- I think he played and scored in Germany, if I recall correctly. He was part of that swaggering Anton Ferdinand/Kieran Richardson generation of arrogant cockheads who thought they had made it the second they started in the Premier League.

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04 Mar 2013 20:17:25

By Obtuse | Permalink | On 04 March 2013 - 20:08 PM

No I do not. Gerrard literally did not win anything singlehandedly as that is literally impossible in a team sport. Nice attempt at a fallacy fallacy though. You argued wrong and tried to blame someone else. I have not actually entered into ad hominem territory though. You have the burden of proof though as you made the claim, so prove it.

When something 'is so funny you piss your pants', do you think people actually mean that they laughed until they urinate? Do you think when people say 'turn a phrase', that they are spinning an actual thing in another direction? It is patently obvious that you cannot win something single-handedly in a team sport, because it's a turn of phrase. Telegram Sam is clearly capable of understanding that and has moved on from this. Implying that I have showed myself up without proof is an ad hominem attack, just so you know.

I have already said that without Gerrard's really, really famous goal against Olympiakos that Liverpool would have gone out in the group stages. He also scored in the final and everybody under the sun knows that over the 2005 campaign he was superb in Europe- he even won a CBE because of it ffs. Now, if you want to return to the original argument between Gerrard v Lampard and argue that Lampard achieved more over his career, then that would begin an actual debate. If you want to argue that Liverpool would have won the Champion's League without Gerrard's specific influence, including if Gerrard wasn't on the pitch for that really, really famous Olympiakos goal, then by all means. Bring out some hipster statistics about Dietmar Hamann's successful tackling percentages, or argue that Carragher and Hyypia's defending was the most influential factor.

I must stress this again- it is obvious that 'winning something single-handedly' is a figure of speech. For example, you might say 'Bale is single-handedly dragging Tottenham into the Champion's League position' and everyone with half a brain will be able to relay what you mean.

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04 Mar 2013 19:58:10

No, you just don't know how to argue. If you move on from the point about semantics, and you still think I'm wrong, you have to prove otherwise by either asserting that Gerrard wasn't as important to the 2005 Champion's League campaign as many believe he was, or that another Liverpool player was even more influential. You can't get round this issue with ad hominem arguments.

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04 Mar 2013 17:32:29

So you don't know what a figure of a speech is, fantastic.

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04 Mar 2013 17:01:56

So you don't think Steven Gerrard was of such importance to Liverpool during their 2005 Champion's League campaign that it would be appropriate to use the phrase 'single-handedly won'? Given that he was man of the match in the final and without his piece of individual brilliance they wouldn't have even got out of the group stages, what actual evidence do you have to suggest that I am wrong?