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#42450 What Are You Listening To?
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By The Platypus | Permalink | On 11 January 2013 - 12:15 PM
Horrendous? Yes.
Nothing like Nickelback though.

Maybe not in style, but it's still "cock rock". *shudders*



Been jamming this album heaps of late.
#41880 FA Cup Thread 2012/13
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By K3V0 | Permalink | On 10 January 2013 - 15:09 PM
Verse is a racist.

I give as good as I get, having a wog background and all.
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By Phoenix Arrow | Permalink | On 10 January 2013 - 10:14 AM
I'm not defending anyone. The point Gus was making is that making a racist comment doesn't make you a racist which I'd agree with.

But that wasn't really my point.

Couldn't agree more.

I'm sure you could say that 95% of people on this forum have said something that would be considered racist at one point or another. I bet the majority would voice that they aren't racist, and would defend themselves accordingly.
#41862 English Premier League 2012/2013
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By Obtuse | Permalink | On 10 January 2013 - 12:14 PM
I just say "ow".

You're my hero.
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By Jaygull | Permalink | On 10 January 2013 - 02:12 AM
Drogba fucked himself over by diving frequently and becoming the sort of 'buzzword for simulation a la Suarez/Ronaldo/Bale/Young' just before that game though. Plus he was vibrating on the floor for about 45 seconds afterwards, massively over-exaggerating the foul. Lucky escape for Evans though.

I don't see how he was over-exaggerating the foul. He copped more or less a fly kick to the chest, complete with the full array of studs. You expect Drogba to just lay on the ground? It's like when you crush your finger with a hammer or in a door. Not only do you swear, you shake your hand and maybe jump around a little, etc. Shit hurts. I expect that to be no different.

Wouldn't begrudge any player to react in a similar fashion. That said, how Drogba ever got booked for that still baffles me.
#41856 What Are You Listening To?
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By Darth Qwas | Permalink | On 10 January 2013 - 08:39 AM
you are listenining some shat - you try to listen this

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That was horrendous. It's like the foreign version of Nickelback.

Redeeming this thread with some;



"And this is not a call to arms.
Just a hope that we might try.
To use our heads and open eyes.
We have more sense than lies.
We have more sense than lies.
And nothing changes if we don't change ourselves."


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#41852 What Was The Last Film You Saw?
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By Deano | Permalink | On 10 January 2013 - 10:27 AM
Just watched Django Unchained, fucking loved it.

This.

I didn't mind the length of the film either, but fuck it was good. It had pretty much everything you'd expect to see in a Tarantino film.
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Also saw Wreck-It Ralph last night, was pretty good I thought. Got a few laughs and enjoyed some of the plays of words they used.
#41145 What's the last thing you bought thread
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#41131 Ballon d'Or
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By Rick87 | Permalink | On 08 January 2013 - 09:54 AM
To be honest I can't think of any Chelsea who deserved to be in the team if it's based on the performances throughout the season. I don't see enough of Bayern Munich to pass judgement on their players.

A.Cole, Cech and Mata about the only three real contenders.
#41111 Transfer Rumours 2013/14
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By Deano | Permalink | On 06 January 2013 - 22:27 PM
Apparently Lampard rejected a 3 year contract from us?!

Not a surprise if true. If he does leave (which seems likely by all reports), he'll probably move aboard. I don't think he'd be the sort of player that would play for another EPL side at this stage.

By chokosc | Permalink | On 08 January 2013 - 08:22 AM
Not liking the rumors about Taison. Probably the only place in the squad we don't need strengthening.

I wouldn't say we don't need strengthening in the attacking midfield area. Ideally two players for every position are needed. We've already seen just how badly we struggle once Mata and Hazard are left out. Oscar for me isn't good enough to play in behind like Mata does, while Marin is still largely unknown. Another attacking option in that area wouldn't be a bad thing. Would also mean never having to hopefully see Ramires or Bertrand play wide either.

That said, it shouldn't be a priority either.
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By chokosc | Permalink | On 03 January 2013 - 08:39 AM
Anyone still going to tell me that Rafa is a good manager and the Torres is a good player?

Oh please. You're like a broken record.

Irrespective of the side that Benitez put on the pitch tonight, the players who played should have been good enough to do the job. What it does show is just how relient on Mata we are for anything positive in the attacking third. Which isn't a good thing to see. The first 45 no one was good enough and simply weren't able to put together the football basics.

The second half was an improvement but still completely dire.

Torres had the one chance to score, and while it was stuck straight at Julio Cesar, he was extremely quick out and made himself big, it was a very good save none the less.

Besides that and a few headers, the side created absolutely nothing. Neither the fault of the manager or that simply just Torres, the whole side was terrible baring Cahill.
#39230 Transfer Rumours 2013/14
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Ba has apparently more or less signed for Chelsea, Pards has confirmed he'll join with his blessing.

Good deal once done.
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By duckeggmoon | Permalink | On 02 January 2013 - 10:23 AM
A question for the non-City fans:

Everybody likes Pablo Zabaleta, right?

Can't say I do.
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By chokosc | Permalink | On 01 January 2013 - 23:50 PM
But if you get two strikers that can get 10-15, they wouldn't want to be played as a substitute... And we can't go with a 3 striker formation not with the players we have now and the players that we have. Can you really drop two of Mata, Oscar or Hazard? Not really. And last year proved that Torres can't handle competition. Now he has no competition, he doesn't have to play at his best because he is our only striker. But he didn't start very well and I don't believe that if we bring Ba now and when Lukaku comes back next season, that Torres will be able to do much.

Sadly, he just isn't the player we need. I admitted it a long time ago and I personally think we should have got rid of him last year. He was destroyed in 2010 and sadly he will never be back. Again, it was always hard for me to like Torres, just like it is hard for me to like Benitez. Both came from Liverpool and both had shit starts to their Chelsea career (Rafa got the hang of it faster). I will never feel like I am 100% behind Torres but he has to prove himself first. If he scores over 15, 20 goals, let him stay, maybe he will be able to keep that form... Sadly, I can't see it happening and I have a feeling that if Lampard doesn't leave in January, Torres, yet again, will score less goals than him in the league.

That's completely untrue. It's all about rotation. Every top side has around 3-4 strikers, usually of decent quality. United don't seem to have problems keeping their strikers happy, etc. Chelsea don't need to play 3 strikers in the one side, it's about a good rotation policy and obtaining the right sort of player for the role required within the side. It has nothing to do with our attacking midfield options.

I have no issue with Torres or Benitez having Liverpool backgrounds, that's irrelevant to me now because they're both at Chelsea and I want both to do well for the club, it's also largely irrelevant to this discussion about needing more strikers. I'm all for signing Ba and another striker of a similar statue, even if it's a loan deal to cover the short term. Then come the summer the club decides what it wants to do. That said, I don't see Chelsea signing a big name striker in January. It makes absolutely no sense.
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By chokosc | Permalink | On 01 January 2013 - 16:25 PM
But you rarely find these players that can easily score 15 goals a season for cheap. Sure, Torres only needs 13 goals to get to 20 but we are coming into the 21st game and he has 7 goals. So if it keeps like this, he should have around 14. Of course it doesn't work like but I can't see him scoring 13 goals in 17 games, because of the fact that if he does manage to score one goal, he usually fails to score another.

You find more strikers in the world who kick their 10-15 a season than those who get 30+ regularly, I assure you. Any striker who has consistently kicked 30+ a season is going to cost you ridiculous amounts of money, provided their not already at a top club as it is. Signing two strikers who can get you 10-15 goals a season to work with Torres is going to be both cheaper and also less riskier.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love either a Falcao or Cavani at Chelsea, both are top strikers. But I'd also be just as happy to see the club keep Torres and add some genuine competitive depth, which is lacking. Chelsea's track record on buying expensive strikers isn't good, so it makes just as much sense get two good players for the price of one superstar.

Chelsea were spoiled to have a player like Drogba, who was near on the complete striker.
#38628 Favourite Sporting Moments of 2012
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By duckeggmoon | Permalink | On 01 January 2013 - 10:57 AM
No.

You'll get there one day.

If you ever make it out of the group stages.
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By chokosc | Permalink | On 01 January 2013 - 06:13 AM
Score more. Rooney isn't the only striker at United, barely plays as a striker anymore! So 7 goals is fair in my opinion.

Cazorla and Mata are midfielders so it already makes it worse.

Aguero and Tevez are both part of a 4 striker team. They either play together, with a different striker next to one of them and sometimes even them two plus another striker. So 7 goals each when they are sharing them with at least one more striker is also good.

There is nothing wrong with Torres' goal output this season tbqf.

The problem is the sheer expectations on him because he cost £50m (mind you, this is something he had utterly no control over whatsoever, yet still continually used against him). Don't get me wrong, he should probably have a few more goals to his name, but he has improved from last season and is currently in good form. While Torres might have played more minutes compared to others, he isn't a striker that has had a huge amount of chances per game. He'd be lucky to get 1-3 chances a game. When this is the case, the pressure to score from those increases greatly.

If Torres scores 20+ goals this season, it's been a good season for him. The only thing he really needs to do more of that the others do is score more important goals, which he has lacked at times.
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By Justicar | Permalink | On 01 January 2013 - 10:20 AM
Ba could be your Salomon Kalou, not an outstanding or star player, but a squad player that kept the whole squad ticking over.

Ba would be an improvement on Kalou, but I understand what you're saying. It's all about depth really.

Torres could well kick 20+ goals this season and people will still want him out, which isn't something you don't see or hear of often. But if Chelsea can add another striker or two who can kick 10-15 themselves, to compliment Torres, then that's going to be far more valuable than spending a ridiculous amount on a single striker, who's also no sure thing either.
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By chokosc | Permalink | On 01 January 2013 - 07:48 AM
True, but they would probably 'only' be around Falcao so they still make some sort of profit.

Anyways, we need a target man sort of player. We need someone that can control the ball anywhere on the pitch and score. Torres always drifts wide and usually loses control of the ball when he is in the middle (look at the ball he got form Luiz yesterday)... We need someone to be where a striker is supposed to be.

Bringing Lukaku back now is stupid because he is doing alright at WBA.

I'm sorry, but no.

Chelsea don't need either Falcao or any other big name striker to be quite frank. What we need right now is depth up front and Ba offers that, while being a good striker, cheap and also a realistic option. Spunking £50m on a striker makes absolutely no sense whatsoever while Torres remains at the club, let alone in January. Maybe if Torres is sold, we replace him with someone of a higher stature and reputation, but until that that happens signing players like Ba is far more beneficial, as is having a selection of 3 or 4 good players in that position.

Torres drifts wide (not so much anymore since Benitez joined) because that's where the space is for him, due to the likes of Mata/Hazard always coming inside. Having another striker isn't going to change anything in that regard. And if you've watched the likes of Falcao or Cavani in the past, both also drift wide themselves.
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By K3V0 | Permalink | On 31 December 2012 - 23:43 PM
PSG??

They're probably the only exception (though wasn't aware they were linked with him). But again, he'd be lucky to get a game there with the attacking options they already have. I guess a lot of it will come down to what he values more, the dollar or playing time. Given he won't want to be played out of position as he's already shown displeasure with this at Newcastle.
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By Number 1 | Permalink | On 31 December 2012 - 22:16 PM
Ba's move has apparently collapsed after "unproductive talks".

I reserve the right to say that any move would be heavily motivated by the money involved, mind.

I wouldn't read much into it just yet personally. Contracts are never instantly agreed upon first time around.

I'd say Chelsea would still be in pole position though given the other interested sides linked. If it's money, he's going to be hard pressed getting more from any of the other sides interested, while he'll also need to factor in competition for places and challenging for trophies. Give it a week or so and then see what happens.
#38360 The Night Thread Mk. IX
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#38359 The Night Thread Mk. IX
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Doing absolutely nothing myself for one of the most overrated days within the year.

I don't get the new years hype.
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Quite pleased with the prospect of Ba joining. He's exactly the sort of striker that will fit in well and add something different. While I still expect Torres to get games, given he's also been scoring, Ba will also feature regularly enough through the middle. Given Torres has more or less played every game possible this season, he will need resting at some point. Can't risk injury when he's the only noted striker in the side who is available now that Sturridge looks to be off.

I still think Chelsea will bring in another striker possibly, (maybe loan return of Lukaku?). Otherwise another good ball winning midfielder is a must in Jan.
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By The Platypus | Permalink | On 26 November 2012 - 03:49 AM
Chelsea fans doing my head in. "Rafa out".
I disliked the man as much as anyone when he was at Liverpool, but he's the manager for now, so how about some support for the team?

Fucking morons.

This.

I couldn't care what he's said or who he's managed in the past, he's at Chelsea now and he should be backed. Even if it's only mutually.

Supporters don't have to like the man, just back the club and it's players.
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By K3V0 | Permalink | On 24 November 2012 - 12:04 PM
According to reports Benitez has said that it's unlikely Lampard and Cole will be at Chelsea next season.

It really doesn't take the media long does it. They do anything for a reaction at times.

Anyone who's followed either player situation at the club over the last few months will know that both could potentially leave, that is nothing new. Both players will be out of contract, both will have to accept lesser deals and 1 year contacts, due to the over 30 policy the club now has. So obviously if neither player signs, they'll leave. This is all common knowledge for most.

Rafa has no input in the matter, he's made this point that he's only a short-term appointment (for the moment, at least) and is simply the head coach for now. He's said if he was a more permanent appointment he might be able to influence the situations of the players involved. He told the truth instead of pussy-footing around the issue.

Simply the media looking to stir the pot.
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You can't really hold what he said as a Liverpool manager against the man. He was doing what he needed to be done at the time.

I'm not a Rafa fan, he's managed two clubs I detest with a passion, but I'll be backing him to do a job now that he's at Chelsea, as weird as that will be do to.

At the end of the day, I'm not shocked RDM was sacked and I think it was coming sooner or later given the results. I think it was 3 wins from last 12 games or something, possibly not making it out of the CL group and not really showing any sort of signs of improvement or change to get things back on track. Robbie shall always remain a big part of the clubs history, and for that I thank him.
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I don't even know anymore.

It feels extremely weird having Rafa as manager and seeing his photo on the website. Going to be even weirder seeing him on the touchline come match day.