M.C - Comments

It does, in general terms, include promotions/relegations - however, it doesn't yet include the structure for any nation for 2026/27 because 2025/26 hasn't finished yet.

We update the files as quickly as time allows, but only after the full completion of the season.

Select ‘No Club’ in the club selection field. This has the desired effect of them being treated as free agents in-game.

I know that this (and other players) are technically members of the youth/second teams…however, for maximum compatibility across both FM24 and FM26 it is best for them to remain assigned to the primary team. Therefore, rejecting the submissions that are only moving them to the secondary teams.

Ah, yes - of course. Sorry - I completely skipped over that when reading your first message.

I've had a quick look - this is a bit of an edge/unique case. This person is in the FM24 default database, but in a Non-Player role. As she is now represented in the FM26 database in a player role, our data update consolidates that status change and writes a change into the FM24 Data Update to make her a Player role.

I will need to flag to the Site Admin to see if there is a sensible way to address this. Even though it is just one Person (and could easily be ‘patched’ with a manual file), my preference would be to see if there's a way to stop the change being made to the FM24 Data Update files in the first place (to protect against any other similar cases).

I'm sorry but I do not understand the question/request. Can you try and rephrase? As I am reading it, you seem to be suggesting we fix something but you don't really explain what is wrong.

I think it is highly likely you are using additional ‘editor data’ files, one of which is also editing the English league system.

Can you confirm/show us what custom database files you’re using please?

I do a lot of testing on a continuous basis and am very confident that the current/latest FM24 Data Update is working just fine when used standalone.

On this note - best to wait for the Site Admin to pick this up with you. I am sure that will help, but just so you're not posting too much transaction detail on a public forum, he may prefer to pick this up with you via Private Messages. My recommendation is just based on erring on the side of caution in terms of the detail we post publicly as best-practice.

I just wanted to reply, on behalf of the staff team/site admin, to acknowledge your post as an initial courtesy.

Please note: I'm one of the volunteer staff members, here, and so I do not have access to the back-end financial transaction detail and so I can't resolve this for you directly. But I'm tagging the Site Admin/Owner, @Footygamer, so that he can pick this up with you as soon as he is available.

Noting you've created this account specifically to request the cancellation, unfortunately, the existing subscription is tied to some other account. It's impossible for me to know which account that is - but the SIte Admin will have a method to track it down and advise properly.

Just to also acknowledge: I have moved this thread to the ‘Site Support & Feedback’ sub-forum, as this is the better fit for it. I've also noted your other post in another thread - I will transfer that one to this thread so everything is one place.

The intention - as it has been up until now - is to continue supporting FM24 with as much up-to-date content as we can manage as a staff team.

I think the script has done the trick (at least on the visible site data). The two examples I had to hand - one was Marco Rose and the other was Tommy Warrilow, as reported in the Staff Forum - both now appear correct…that is, the ‘Data Update Data’ now reflects the latest submissions. Haven’t checked the data in the downloaded update itself at this stage.

I've done a quick check and compared things to what the in-game data is showing (based on the latest version of the FM24 Data Update).

As best I can tell, it appears that in the profiles section of (some?) individuals, on the site, the ‘Data Update Data’ isn't reflecting what should appear based on approved submissions. The same position as it shows in the ‘Data Update Data’ is what is reflected in-game / when looking at the files in the PGE.

For example, Marco Rose (https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/person/3601220) shows up on the website as being a Free Agent and there is no mention of his Future Transfer in the ‘Data Update Data’. If you look at the submissions, you can see there's an approved submission setting up his future transfer.

Looking at the file in the PGE, there is no trace of his Future Transfer and he simply shows as a Free Agent.

You can’t make CA/PA submissions for a specific game. Both updates leverage the same data; so you’d just make the submission and, when approved, it’ll feed the FM24 and FM26 Data Update equally.

The starting point for making those submissions is here: https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/attributes. In reality what you will do is browse to a club and then from that club’s page there is a list of players and the ability to enter CA/PA values. Please enter absolute values, rather than indicating the amount you wish to change it by (i.e. don’t enter ‘-2’ if you think the value should be two points lower).

As mentioned, there’s no method to make a submission related to player positions.

I appreciate the interface of data on the website vs. what will exist in-game, especially for those still playing FM24, can be a bit tricky to navigate.

Essentially, when you search for a player, what you're seeing in most places on the site is the details of that player in FM26. This includes the ‘Data Update Data’ that you would see on this page, as an example: https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/person/2000108787.

I do also agree it can be a bit tricky to know what CA/PA a player originally had in the FM24 Data Update - because what you'll see in the ‘Original Data’ is now FM26. Unfortunately, where we are managing updates for multiple versions of the game, it's quite tricky to display everything and, ultimately, it makes sense to show the data from the latest game at this stage.

Now, many of the details are also transposed into the FM24 Data Update, but not all of them. For example, the CA/PA (which are based on the Attribute Submissions you see on their main profile) are included, as are - of course - all of the details around contracted club and so on. A good example of something that isn't updated are player positions. There is no method available for the community to make submissions to change player positions at this time.

In the case of a player who has a different set of positions in FM26 and FM24, that can get a bit confusing. The right place to see a player's listed positions (from the link I sent earlier, to use that same example player) for FM24 is via Game Guides → FM24 Update, which takes you to the following page: https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-2025/person/2000108787/kolja-oudenne

This is where you'll see the positions that player can play in FM24.

If you want a very straightforward/shortened version of the above: unfortunately, player positions will be the same as they were in FM24, even in the FM24 Data Update. CA/PA, however, is adjusted and this is done by community submissions and I would encourage you (and all others) to make those submissions, irrespective of whether you play FM24 or FM26 with our Data Update. The more submissions, the more reflective of community opinion the data ends up being.

Both the Premium Membership and the Data Update (which are two separate products) operate on an annual subscription basis. In each case, when subscribing, they are billed as a single payment at the time of activating it and that then provides access for the following 12 months.

You can see the details of what each of them is and the status on your account of your membership to either/both via https://sortitoutsi.net/shop.

Looking at your account, I can see that your Data Update subscription expired in early March 2026, which is why you're being prompted for a renewed payment in order to access the paid version.

Just for clarity - if you don't wish to avail of the paid version, that is absolutely fine: you will find links to the free version down towards the bottom of the page (where you're being prompted for payment).

Thanks for those extra examples.

The thing that is common to all of them is that they are dual-role People records (or supposed to be). Each of them is a Player/Non-Player. There must be something in that pattern that is resulting in them appearing the way they do in-game.

This is on the to-do list for investigation - we will look into this as soon as we are able.

@Footygamer - so you have a bit of a fuller dataset for troubleshooting this, the following players are all being observed as appearing duplicated in the Squad view in FM24, when using the FM24 Data Update. They don't appear twice in other parts of the UI and the game seems to logically recognise them as one player (both instances show the same UID and, for example, when selecting one into a position, both are set at that position).

When not using the FM24 Data Update, this duplication in the Squad view is not present.

In the FM24 Data Update ‘Contracts’ file, each of these has had a change applied to them to change their Person Type to ‘Player’ from ‘Player / Non-Player’. I haven't tested stripping out that change in Person Type manually, but I will do and report back on the outcome.

Paul Jones: 5112026

Michael Gash: 8607361

Luke Clark: 28059656

Tony McMillan: 5105707

Scott Davies: 5006946

Louis Storey: 28059502

Joe Murphy: 4000858

Nathan Pond: 30011964

Andrew Tutte: 5105543

Jake Kean: 28011345

Adam Collin: 5112191

Unfortunately, submissions to alter national allegiance/nationality is not a functionality that exists in the Data Update - the only way that this could be included is via a manual file and it isn't something we've been able to produce (yet).

The reason your submissions were rejected where you set their national allegiance is because those fields relate to setting the jobs for Non-Player people, rather than setting their nationality as such.

The only reasonable way for us to include this would be through a manual file. I will add this to the to-do list but one of the challenges would be sourcing the data to actually achieve it. The best I can think of is to setup a dedicated thread and ask for the community to submit their proposals, with sources, and we then build a file out from that. I'll give it some thought as I would need to be able to make sure I can keep up with the requests, otherwise it would be unfair on all contributors.

Correcting as previous submission had selected female Oman national team.

I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the source you've shared shows his contract as starting from 13-01-2026, which doesn't match the date you're submitting (28-05-2025).

I'm not too sure at this stage - and I know this is something that @Footygamer will be looking into, as well, so I don't want to advise any action to be taken at this stage.

From my quick observation, it appears that they show as ‘Director’ on the site data and, in-game in FM24, this results in them being set as the corresponding ‘Director’ role. When a submission is made to set them as ‘Director of Football’, this appears to then set them to the corresponding ‘Director of Football’ role in-game in FM24…that is, everything matches.

It also appears that for someone set as ‘Director of Football’ on the site (e.g. Tiago Pinto), in-game in FM26 they continue to be a ‘Director of Football’ (i.e. nothing breaks). However, interestingly, I could also see (in-game in FM26) the likes of Hugo Viana and Andrea Berta as ‘Director of Football’ roles (despite the data on the site showing them simply as a ‘Director’ role). It is this last bit that makes me hesitant to advise anyone going out of their way to make submissions, as it may be something that needs adjustment centrally to make things easier. I also know SI updates and changes have muddied the waters and caused this to flip-flop over recent months.

For what it's worth, I'm just having a look through on FM26 and I am seeing all of the Set-Piece Coaches in their correct roles. I've just checked a handful that are in the Premier League. I checked examples such as Nicolas Jover (UID: 48030808) and Austin MacPhee (61063004).

With respect to the Director of Football roles in FM24 - I can confirm that all of those show as, simply, Director roles. I checked examples such as Hugo Viana (727976), Andrea Berta (1410276) and Tony Khan (29183227).

I did note that Tiago Pinto (90077921) had the role of Director of Football in FM24, but this appears to be courtesy of a submission made through the site.

Thanks for those examples - they are useful.

I've taken a quick look and I can also see two of each of these people when I look at the squad view of either Worksop or Chorley. What is bizarre to me is that when I look at the profiles of both instances, they are both showing me the same Unique ID - that is, they are the same Person record, according to the data being shown by the game.

I've tested starting a game without the Data Update enabled and can confirm that this phenomenon doesn't happen - so there must be something, somewhere in the Data Update, causing it.

Testing further in-game, with the Data Update enabled, whilst there is a duplication in the Squad view, the game does appear to be treating them as single entities. If I go to the Tactics view, for example, I only see one of each. If I set Steven Drench as the GK in my Tactic, when I go into the Squad view it is showing me both entries as being in that position. On that basis, this feels like a nuanced bug with the Squad list view, rather than a genuine duplication of the data.

From the perspective of our Data Update, when I look at the data for these two people, I can see that the Data Update is applying changes to each of them to set them as being Player instead of Player/Non-Player (i.e. dual-role) records. Whether that's correct or incorrect, I can't be sure, but either way it shouldn't result in two of the person appearing.

I will flag with the Site Admin and we will investigate. For now, all I can do is confirm that I can replicate the situation, but I can't see an obvious cause. For what it's worth, I don't really need those screenshots from your end at this stage.

Can you give a few named, representative examples of players you’re seeing duplicated, please? This will help us investigate and follow the data trail properly.

I would be very surprised if there are widespread duplicates at that level, coming from our Data Update alone, to be honest. Are you sure you’re not using other custom databases/third-party files from other sources alongside our Data Update? If you’re not sure, please send a screenshot of your ‘editor data’ folder and we can take a look.

I have a feeling it wasn't - likely got lost in the mire of other things.

For Daniel Skaarud, I have just pushed an update to his created instance which should mean he shows up in FM24 for those using the FM24 Data Update. May need to wait for the overnight update for those on the free plan.

For Paul Pogba, I think this one is a bit more nuanced because he existed in an earlier version of FM24 (but not 24.3). Site Admin may need to assist on how we tackle this specific case. I'll flag to him.

To the best of my knowledge, the SortItOutSI Data Update isn't / shouldn't be altering abilities/tactical preferences associated with non-playing staff. At least, there is no method for the community to submit such changes.

I'm going to take a scan through the editor files to see where these changes could reside (if they indeed do). From my knowledge of our files, I can't think of an obvious candidate/place by-design where these changes would be held.

Whilst I do that, are you in a position to absolutely confirm that you're not pairing this site's Data Update with any other third-party/custom editor files?

Once the submission is approved by a member of the staff team, the player will appear in the Data Update.

I can’t provide a guaranteed timeline; but we try and review submissions daily, at least.

For what it’s worth, that is a fairly transactional position in the sense that after the official update, there is always a need for us to do some de-duplicating. I suspect the point at which you last downloaded the update, there was still some work to do in terms of de-duping.

We think we have now done that - but if there are any that still exist if you can let us know via a forum post who those duplicates are we can take care of them once and for all.

I would recommend you get the latest version of the Data Update and check again as they may be resolved since your original post. To be clear: there’s no intention to leave duplicates in the Data Update but it can sometimes take some time/effort to identify them all. The automated tools the site uses catch many, but not all. But if we fix it centrally then you and the entire community benefit - hence I don’t recommend anyone spending time individually making corrections locally.

Just a small update for everyone's awareness.

I've uploaded two new file versions into the FM24 Data Update - both are iterations/updates on files previously done by @TheMinsterman (thank you for the base work!).

They are an update to South America, reflecting the correct qualifiers for the CONMEBOL competitions (Copa Libertadores and Copa Suda Americana). It doesn't work 100% in-game because we don't have the corresponding, updated history for the nations that provide these competitions with teams…but it gets us 90% of the way there and means if we manage to do those individual nations then everything will be 100% correct.

The second is a new version of England (League), which includes two specific changes. The first is the addition of the 6-point deduction to Leicester City for the first season. The second is the alteration to the Championship Playoffs from the second season onwards so they reflect the newly-announced six-team format. The only area of estimation has been on the calendar dates for those extra two games - I have squeezed them in between the final league matchday and the semi-final dates, as I suspect that is how they will do it in real-life (and this also avoids disturbing the sequence of the divisional playoffs relative to each other).

When downloading and installing the FM24 Data Update, just do as you always would - replace all files you previously had installed and then start a new game.

Sorry about that - the link I sent added the full stop to the clickable URL.

Correct link: https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/attributes

On that page, there are instructions advising to search for the club and then from that club’s page you can ‘Add New Youth Player’ (this is the label on the button - any missing player can be added). This then prompts with the form to fill out.

You are going to need to elaborate a little bit on that post for me to be able to assist. What didn't work?

It's definitely not a matter for @FMEditorX (well, unless they choose to expand the contents of their ‘new players’ offering by including this player). In any case, one solution could be for a member of this community create the player so they are included in this site's Data Update. Naturally, as a staff member here that is a method of solving this ‘problem’ that we would support.

There is a form that can be filled in (by any member) by following the instructions here: https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/attributes. Once the player is submitted and approved, he would become available in the game for anyone using the Data Update.