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Flash.
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Given what we've had over the last few years, Ashley would be an improvement.

Doesn't say much though.
Shola
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Find it funny, how Rangers have nearly went bust about three times and had charlatans in charge, and they are that worried about Ibrox's naming rights.
Flash.
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I find it funny you're commenting on something you clearly know nothing about.

Rangers fan would be happy selling the naming rights as we know we're fucked financially. The issue is it's just been announced that Green sold them to Ashley 2 years ago for 1 pound.

Murrayfield sold the rights for 20 million over 4 years, we could have expected to get 2-3 times that.
Shola
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Just read more into it. I though Rangers gave Ashley the naming rights, in exchange for backing the share issue. Basically begging for Ashley to invest, to presumably stop Rangers heading back into severe trouble. Doesn't look like the case.


Bizarre, did Green/Rangers not realised they sold the naming rights or something?
Poe
17 years ago
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Given what we've had over the last few years, Ashley would be an improvement.

Doesn't say much though.


Aye, tbf Rangers is the perfect club for Ashley.

If he can sell us and buy Rangers he can get global coverage through the Champions League for Sports Direct with very minimal investment.

It's surprising he didn't try and sell up when Rangers were at their lowest ebb.

And aye I can see where your coming from with the naming rights issue - 1 pound is ridiculous, what is even the point?
Number 1
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Club have banned the Telegraph (again), calling the "club for sale" articles put in yesterday and toda'ys Daily Telegraph "disgusting journalism" and that they should apologise. Though most fans would probably say they'd been given false hope.

Most of the statement is about criticising journalism but we have been given as good as any statement on Ashley's position at the club, which is this:
The truth is Mike Ashley remains committed to Newcastle United.

For the avoidance of doubt, this means that for the remainder of this season and AT LEAST until the end of next season, Mike Ashley will not, under any circumstances, sell Newcastle United at any price.

The Club cannot be stronger in stating its position on this matter.

So, between the lines, could the club be up for sale in 2016?

Also, interesting they haven't felt moved to comment on the papers circulating articles Pardew has 2 games to save his job.
Number 1
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Meanwhile, Pardew has continued to say he was right to get rid of Ben Arfa even after confirmation Rolando Aarons may be out for a month.

Fuck's sake.
Shola
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That NOT FOR SALE for 18 months is a very strange statement. Seems unlikely anything major will happen in that time.

The Sun said Pardew only wants players who love the club.

Graeme Bailey tweeted earlier, that Pardew was one heavy defeat away from the sack.
Number 1
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It is odd to give it that caveat. I was happy to ignore the rumours because there was nothing official, but the official line just makes it even more puzzling. The press release the club put out should have just said "Mr. Ashley is not looking to sell the club right now" and left it at that.

He's also confirmed he's not involved in the share issue at Rangers, which saw £7million raised by club directors. Even despite the dumbass sale of naming rights to him for £1.

Goal is a tricky source to trust but given quite a few sources are reporting Pardew is in serious trouble, maybe there's an element of truth. Certainly, another heavy howking by Southampton to go with the one we got in March wouldn't help his job prospects.
Franck
17 years ago
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Pardew must get a pretty sweet severance package if he does get sacked.
Crane
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Apparently not.
Number 1
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Been mentioned here a couple of times that we have a deal where we would only have to pay him one year's salary if he's fired as the deal is 8 individual one year contract after the other. Or something like that.

Given we've lost 39 league games in the last 2 and a bit seasons, he's hardly in a strong position as it is. Plus given our poor record at Southampton, this is not the game he would've wanted to show he's still right for the job. Though I think that one should've been Palace and he blew that one.
Poe
17 years ago
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Pardew out. Ashley out.

We'll never finish above 10th again unless one of these two things happen.

Preferably both.
Number 1
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Its starting to feel like the longer Pardew stays, the likelier we are going to be relegated. Yes the players look clueless but with so many brand new players looking anonymous already, there are clearly major problems. The cretin has to go now.

Yes Ashley is a problem but right now Pardew is the bigger waste of space and time.

EDIT: I have also seen photos and Tweets saying John Carver tried to start a fight with some of the away fans. Surely that is justification for his removal as well.
Number 1
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Steve Bruce has called it "disrespectful" that the media has been heavily linking him and Shearer as a new co-team to replace Pardew.

That would never happen - would mean paying compensation.
BR.
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Assuming he goes soon, which I hope he does for your sake, who would you all want to come in?

Seen Bruce linked. Moyes too and he'd definitely join you and try, he'd be so determined to rebuild his reputation. Pulis as well, and you can guarantee he'd do at least steady the ship and do a decent job.
Shola
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I honestly don't really care. Feels like where in the same cycle we've been in for nearly 20 years. If Pardew is sacked, and replaced by someone of similar ability, initial success, before they will probably be sacked in about 18 months time.

Pardew is the only man since Robson to last a full season in the past decade.
Splash The Cash On Matt Le Tiss
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I'd be happy for Tim Sherwood to get the job, if he brought Sir Les along with him. I don't want the club to be the sort of place that managers come to resurrect their careers, so no thanks to Moyes. Tony Pulis would be solid and dependable in theory, but I wonder how his management style would get on with some of the big egos at St. James' Park.
Number 1
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I have previously commented that I would tire of the "Moyes uses Newcastle to try and find redemption" stories if we appointed him but he can't do any worse than Pardew has. Hell, Pardew is clearly done and even some of those currently clubless would offer some - any - improvement.

I was averse to Pulis but now he definitely would help. But he wouldn't come to us because of the control over transfers issue, given that's part of the reason he left Crystal Palace in the first place.
Pardew is the only man since Robson to last a full season in the past decade.

Chris Hughton lasted the whole of the 2009/10 season. Top flight though, yes. He's also only the third Premier League-era manager after Keegan and Robson to manage three full seasons in a row.

For full-season I think you technically could count Glenn Roeder as well given he presided over the messy 2006/07 season apart from an utterly pointless final day draw with Watford, but I suppose you can't.
Shola
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Hughton was caretaker until about mid September I think.

I think Pulis would come, because it's a massive club compared to where he's managed, and I think he would sort Newcastle out, but I'm not so sure what would come after that.
Number 1
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Hughton was caretaker until about mid September I think.

I think Pulis would come, because it's a massive club compared to where he's managed, and I think he would sort Newcastle out, but I'm not so sure what would come after that.

Perhaps but he still managed the entire league season, so he does count.
Shola
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Imagine being a grown adult, taking a bedsheet to a football match, or making a website.

An absolute embarrassment.
Poe
17 years ago
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I'd like somebody with a clear philosophy and a person that is willing to stick to it.

Pardew chops and changes far too much. Someone from the continent with a new backroom team too - I think it'll suit our style of play more than the kick and rush style of English managers.

John Carver is an embarrassment too.
Number 1
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I don't mind the websites and the Sack Pardew one actually looks very well done. But I agree the painted bedsheets are silly.

Meanwhile the Telegraph is reporting Pardew maybe given until Christmas. Oh wonderful.
EDIT: Guardian reporting a defeat against Hull and he's stuffed. Which is probably to be expected tbh.
Shola
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Even so, it's the effort that goes into it and promoting it. Do people have nothing better to do? Do they not have ant other interests?


Had a brief look, but it seemed to be mostly bollocks, how everything good at Newcastle was luck/or the players/in spite of Pardew/The ghost of Chris Hughton. Everything bad was Pure Pardew.
Number 1
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Tbh anyone with a Twitter account can promote anything in a micro second now. The professionally laminated sheet at St. Mary's was kinda redundant, and probably a bitch to carry on the train/bus down.

Plus I said it looked well done. That didn't meant to say I agreed with all of the content, and I have read it. Its too easy to portray Pardew as a villain because he is the public face of the Ashley regime, which was last popular a fucking century ago. But while I agree he isn't the be all and end all problem, he still is a major one. 5 wins in 23 is the kind of form that would get you sacked at every other club in the top four tiers, yet here we still are for what, exactly?
Flash.
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Just read more into it. I though Rangers gave Ashley the naming rights, in exchange for backing the share issue. Basically begging for Ashley to invest, to presumably stop Rangers heading back into severe trouble. Doesn't look like the case.


Bizarre, did Green/Rangers not realised they sold the naming rights or something?


I'm not sure what they did. They tried to back out of the contract but it was watertight.

Aye, tbf Rangers is the perfect club for Ashley.

If he can sell us and buy Rangers he can get global coverage through the Champions League for Sports Direct with very minimal investment.

It's surprising he didn't try and sell up when Rangers were at their lowest ebb.

And aye I can see where your coming from with the naming rights issue - 1 pound is ridiculous, what is even the point?


We had a 60 million pound tax case looming over us, so no one would go near us, understandably.

That's where the most anger from Rangers fans come from. We were found innocent in the tax case, but due to the case, we weren't able to find a buyer and went into administration. If the case had been thrown out earlier we would have got a buyer and never went bust in the first place.
Shola
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Tbh anyone with a Twitter account can promote anything in a micro second now. The professionally laminated sheet at St. Mary's was kinda redundant, and probably a bitch to carry on the train/bus down.

Plus I said it looked well done. That didn't meant to say I agreed with all of the content, and I have read it. Its too easy to portray Pardew as a villain because he is the public face of the Ashley regime, which was last popular a fucking century ago. But while I agree he isn't the be all and end all problem, he still is a major one. 5 wins in 23 is the kind of form that would get you sacked at every other club in the top four tiers, yet here we still are for what, exactly?


I'm not opposed to Pardew's sacking.

It's more I'm just bored of the fans moral high ground, and crisis circus that surrounds the club. Gut feeling is that we'll be in the exact same situation as right now in 12/18/24 months time. The club seems to have two modes, very successful (lasts about 12 months) followed by crisis mode which lasts about five years.
geordie1981
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Even so, it's the effort that goes into it and promoting it. Do people have nothing better to do? Do they not have ant other interests?


Had a brief look, but it seemed to be mostly bollocks, how everything good at Newcastle was luck/or the players/in spite of Pardew/The ghost of Chris Hughton. Everything bad was Pure Pardew.


It's born out of frustration isn't it, we hear the other side of the story all of the time whenever we turn on the radio, read the paper, watch "expert" panels on TV and catch a stream of any one of our games.

Even on saturday Tony Gale was banging on about Pardew being a fantastic manager, his hands are tied, they sold Cabaye if he wasn't from Laandan Taahn they'd love him up there.

Yesterday Jonathon Pearce (and tonight on MNF Gary Neville) saying Pardew can't be blamed for his defence performing like that, which would be fair enough if it was a one off not when it's happened for the 20th time.
Poe
17 years ago
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He can be blamed for the lack of strategy in attack though - Newcastle have literally never been solid defensively in my lifetime.

Riviere our centre forward hasn't had a chance in between the two goal posts in 4 games. That's crazy.

Pardew also must take his share of the blame for forcing a defender out, and saying we're 'defensively sound' - when it's clear to anybody we're far from it. We've needed a reshuffle at the back for about 2 seasons now - Coloccini seems to be just phoning it in and Williamson is poor. Taylor is worse so he's not the solution and after that we're looking at youngsters? It's ridiculous.

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