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bluemoon.
The man's an idiot.
Slashman X
Jamieandhisego
Poe
Not sure why Lambert is there though.
B26D
bluemoon.
Jamieandhisego
Completely agree. You could argue that Welbeck is picked because of his England form rather than his United form, but Cleverley has been pretty anonymous in between squad announcements for United, and Defoe hasn't pushed his way in front of an underwhelming Soldado. What other options do England currently have up front instead though? You don't want to over-promote a youngster for no reason, or bring back somebody who is not going to be anywhere near consideration for the World Cup squad.
The Platypus
tmatthew
Probably the last one 'til like March or something though.
Poe
Telegram Sam
*Spursday.
Telegram Sam
Slashman X
bluemoon.
He is. At 32, though, I can kinda see the logic in leaving him out.
Telegram Sam
I guess, but Hodgson's been more than happy to call up those in their early thirties since he took the reigns.
bluemoon.
Yeah but if you include him over Cleverley then you're looking at having 4 central-midfielders over the age of 30 in the squad. That's at least one too many.
Telegram Sam
Fair enough, but Barry has still had a much better season than Cleverley.
bluemoon.
I entirely agree. Cleverley's a thoroughly average player.
Ninja
BR.
Deano
Ninja
For him to be over-rated that would surely imply that people actually rated him.
Zog
Obtuse
Ninja
I don't think there's anything really there though, potential wise. If anything he's been regressing the more he's been playing with our first team.
He's decent and people are too harsh on him, but I don't think there's indication to think he's going to become a much better player than he currently is, other than the fact he's still 'only' 24.
Jamieandhisego
Ninja
Cleverley the better player though and is probably a better passer of the ball and reasonably mobile, I think the problem is that his best attribute is his one touch passing which is suited to playing higher up the pitch, but he's not really good enough to play that role for United or England.
Crane
Slashman X
Crane