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Jamieandhisego
Ninja
A big feature of us this season has been our ability to concede whenever, wherever and regardless of how well we're playing.
Anyway, I'd take a draw tonight. Just go there, shut up shop and attempt to win the game 1 or 2 nil. Nothing fancy, just a solid away Champions Leauge performance.
Jamieandhisego
I know he's right, that's why I'm lashing out!
Ninja
Interview: Do you know what is wrong with this United?
RvP: Yeah but, I won't point fingers, because im not like that.
Sam
Ninja
Not 100% posted in redcafe via the noobs. Here's the full transcript:
or those who are dutch, RvP is interviewed atm at NOS.
For the english lads,
Robin said he was unhappy with the game, we played bad but they didn't create much either. The chance I had went pretty good but the shot was to hasty and if you only get one chance in a match like this...you need to score it.
But now it gets interesting. Jack van Gelder (interviewer) asked if Robin feels frustrated to be isolated all the time and because of that feels the urge to drop back.
This is RvP's reply: I do, because certain team mates keep playing in my area and constantly moving to me which makes it extremely hard for me to also play there. I now constantly have to make a run to a different position to avoid this.
Interview: Do you know what is wrong with this United?
RvP: Yeah but, I won't point fingers, because im not like that.
This is the video, if I had the text of it Dutch is similar enough to German that I could have a reasonable stab at translating. http://nos.nl/video/616277-van-persie-gelooft-nog-in-kwartfinale.html
Sam
I can't really put things about tonight into a coherent sentence.
Just, horrible. Clueless, unimaginative, a new low. I can't recall a performance that bad, that devoid of character. The mood definitely shifted tonight, most fans I know have turned against Moyes and want him out, even before the season is over. I'm trying to stay supportive of him, but tonight, just, no.
Why does he continue to play out of form players? What did Tony and Cleverley do to warrant starting tonight? Why, when 2-0 down, did we put our £300k p/w striker in the fucking midfield? Why, after making such positive changes this weekend, did we revert back to mediocrity?
We won three of our previous ten games and Moyes said we came into this game in good form. I mean, what the fuck is he on about? Tonight we lost the minute we got onto the pitch.
He and this squad are out of their depth. We need a three goal margin to overturn this deficit, we've only done that once at home this season.
Ninja
@JamieJackson___
On Januzaj Moyes said he'd decided to play Cleverley so left him out...
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
K3V0
Telegram Sam
Do you all reckon Moyes will be here next season or will the board give him more time?
K3V0
Eric Portapotty
Yeah just like how he didn't point fingers at Messrs Wenger and Gazidis.
I'm enjoying this, really.
Eric Portapotty
Flash.
Very good tactically and with some money behind him he could do well.
Telegram Sam
Besides, he's ours in 2017.
Sam
I do feel for him that he came to United and was given a vision by Fergie, then Fergie retired. But still, no need for his comments last night.
Moyes won't go before the summer at least, I can't see it, to be honest I see him staying at least another season. Last night was helpless, desperate football, I'm not expecting brilliance straight away after Fergie leaving, but this is just horrible. We're getting worse.
Ninja
Moyes has actually, without hyperbole, got a title winning team performing like relegation candidates.
He'll be here, probably.
I just hope he doesn't do irrevocable damage in the transfer window. I don't trust him not to fuck it up anymore.
Croy
Look at Rodgers, we were/are patient with him, he did ok last season and even if we finished 7th it was clear that things were moving in the right direction and continue to do just that. There is no indication of sorts with Moyes other that he will sink United in a deep deep hole!
Telegram Sam
Ninja
Well no.
If he was a 'mercenary' he'd have joined City for the extra money that he was offered.
But yes, he joined because Ferguson told him he was staying and he wanted to win things. Ferguson, by his own admission, misled him.
Poe
Ninja
He's just out of his depth.
Slashman X
Jamieandhisego
Croy
Telegram Sam
I did say that he moved to win trophies, not money, but my point was that he's not a loyal individual - if he can't get success at United he'll make a fuss and I won't be in the slightest bit surprised if he tries to force a move if Moyes stays. Ferguson fucked him over but I can't imagine him being exactly committed to Moyes.
tmatthew
He's said he made the decision to retire around Christmas time and one of the key reasons was because his wife's sister had died.
Was he supposed to assume that would happen?
Shola
To be fair to Moyes, the club continuing to do well reflects well on Moyes. And besides Martinez is still only likely to finish 6th or 7th. It's not like Everton have won the league this season.
No they don't. Not even close.
Slashman X
tmatthew
Although I thought you were automatically charged for cup games, rather than having to actively buy tickets yourself.