tmatthew
18 years ago
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Wouldn't surprise me.

Anyway, fucking bring on Arsenal.

We should sell Baines to Man United, Get what we can for him and throw that money at Chelsea for Lukaku...


With Oviedo's performance last night, that'd probably be the best option for Everton.
Slashman X
18 years ago
1 year ago
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You can understand why he was upset, 11 years of service at Everton and he got abuse all game long for what, trying to buy a player from them in the summer?

Thought it was a bit petty tbh.


It was more than just trying to buy a player, it was hypocrisy and self-indulgence and all that jazz.
Ninja
15 years ago
7 years ago
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It was more than just trying to buy a player, it was hypocrisy and self-indulgence and all that jazz.

It's pretty well documented.

I still think it's pretty disgusting, it's not surprising because football fans are emotional people but I think it's downright bizarre to abuse a manager that clearly did well for your club and then turn around and act like he's somehow in the wrong for thinking that the abuse was a bit out of order.

Just one of those oddities of being a football fan that I'm sure some will class as 'banter'.
Esprit Vanilla
11 years ago
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Come on you blues, please kick the shit out of those north London red bastards.
Deano
18 years ago
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It's pretty well documented.

I still think it's pretty disgusting, it's not surprising because football fans are emotional people but I think it's downright bizarre to abuse a manager that clearly did well for your club and then turn around and act like he's somehow in the wrong for thinking that the abuse was a bit out of order.

Just one of those oddities of being a football fan that I'm sure some will class as 'banter'.


He belittled the club with his pursuit of our players. Something he had a go at Man City for when they chased Lescott. He also belittled Martinez with his pre match comments. "He has very good players there. I always told them they could play without a manager because they are very well organised.But Roberto is doing a really good job keeping it going."....
Ninja
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He belittled the club with his pursuit of our players. Something he had a go at Man City for when they chased Lescott. He also belittled Martinez with his pre match comments. "He has very good players there. I always told them they could play without a manager because they are very well organised.But Roberto is doing a really good job keeping it going."....


I think that it's a massive stretch to say that he's belittling Martinez with that.
Slashman X
18 years ago
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No it's not He essentially said "I did such a good job that a monkey could've taken over and still won cos of the work I did"
Ninja
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No it's not He essentially said "I did such a good job that a monkey could've taken over and still won cos of the work I did"


Hardly.

Its one of those statements that you can choose to take offence to if you want to, but it's pretty obvious it wasn't meant.

He's hardly going to go something like 'Martinez has done magnificent there, cause I was fucking useless at that job and all the players were shit' is he?

Don't see the outrage for thinking that he did a decent job and left the club in a healthy state, which Martinez has carried on. It's kind of stating the obvious.
Slashman X
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Martinez signed Barry, McCarthy and Lukaku, essentially recreating the spine of the team. He could have at least said "With the players he had taken over from me, and those new signings, he's doing a good job" or something similar
Ninja
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Martinez signed Barry, McCarthy and Lukaku, essentially recreating the spine of the team. He could have at least said "With the players he had taken over from me, and those new signings, he's doing a good job" or something similar


But that's what he has said basically.

Essentially, when you strip away the phrasing he's said: Everton are a good team with good players and Martinez has done a good job to keep that going.

I literally have no idea how thats a controversial statement.
saplingg
14 years ago
4 years ago
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It's pretty well documented.

I still think it's pretty disgusting, it's not surprising because football fans are emotional people but I think it's downright bizarre to abuse a manager that clearly did well for your club and then turn around and act like he's somehow in the wrong for thinking that the abuse was a bit out of order.

Just one of those oddities of being a football fan that I'm sure some will class as 'banter'.



I've noticed a lot of people can't relate to the widespread animosity from Everton fans towards Moyes, but it really was an accumulation of several different things that just pushed me to fervently dislike the bastard.

We supported him for the 11 years he was here, and I do have some fond memories in recent history: bollocking City repeatedly, that 4-4 draw against Utd, Tim Cahill, Leighton Baines and Phil Jagielka in particular, etc... But I'll cut to the point. Individually I'd probably let these slide, but the culmination of all of them over this past summer I cannot abide.

1. Verbally agreeing a contract with another club while still contracted to us, bit of a betrayal, but whatever, it is Utd, I sort of get that.
2. Transfer approach for Baines & Felli - the initial 28m bid for both, followed by £30m, then £32m (I don't recall the exact numbers) - an absolute insult to both fans and the players, and reeking of hypocrisy from Lescott saga.
3. Insinuating that Roberto Martinez is "holding back their careers" by not selling them (at ludicrous price) to Utd. This was the last straw for me, I found that totally disrespectful and suffice to say there's no love lost for that man anymore.


Grabbing that win at Old Trafford for the first time in over a decade against him was unbelievably satisfying.
saplingg
14 years ago
4 years ago
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Wouldn't surprise me.

Anyway, fucking bring on Arsenal.

We should sell Baines to Man United, Get what we can for him and throw that money at Chelsea for Lukaku...




Please god let this never happen. I want to keep Baines til he's 40.
BR.
18 years ago
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I haven't been able to properly watch any Everton games myself, only highlights, but I know about the rave reviews Ross Barkley is getting - how do you guys think he'd be doing if Moyes was still in charge?
Slashman X
18 years ago
1 year ago
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Barkley is still too greedy. Takes too long to pass it
Poe
18 years ago
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I haven't been able to properly watch any Everton games myself, only highlights, but I know about the rave reviews Ross Barkley is getting - how do you guys think he'd be doing if Moyes was still in charge?


Haven't you heard...Moyes is shit now?
saplingg
14 years ago
4 years ago
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Barkley is still too greedy. Takes too long to pass it


I'm going to agree with you on this, he still dallies on the ball a bit much but at the same time I like that he has such confidence. In contrast, Jack Rodwell - who granted, is a different type of midfielder - was frequently anonymous when he played. Barkley's decision making should improve as he matures.
Slashman X
18 years ago
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Aye, if there's one person to help him learn to pass the ball quicker, it's Martinez
Ninja
15 years ago
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I'm going to agree with you on this, he still dallies on the ball a bit much but at the same time I like that he has such confidence. In contrast, Jack Rodwell - who granted, is a different type of midfielder - was frequently anonymous when he played. Barkley's decision making should improve as he matures.


I get the impression Barkley is keen to show everyone how good he is and, at times, keeps possession too long, dicks around with the ball and generally does pointless shit to prove the point of his talent. In many ways I think Ronaldo underwent a similar progression to what Barkley will have to do. As Ronaldo became better the pointless tricks and flicks and general showmanship declined, he became more ruthless and far more willing to go for the jugular.

Barkley doesn't have as high a ceiling (not that thatsa criticism) as Ronaldo, but it's an example he would do well to follow.
Ninja
15 years ago
7 years ago
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Cunting double post.
Deano
18 years ago
9 months ago
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Ross "The Boss" Barkley.

That is all.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/71911000/jpg/_71911033_71911032.jpg
Slashman X
18 years ago
1 year ago
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His head looks shit
Deano
18 years ago
9 months ago
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Looks better than the scouse fade he had. Plus his mar did it.
Poe
18 years ago
2 weeks ago
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Man Utd should just say have Fellaini back and we'll take Barkley.
Jonas
18 years ago
4 years ago
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Beware of badge kissers.
Ad.
17 years ago
4 days ago
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Premium
How are we all rating young Stonesy?
Sam
18 years ago
2 years ago
5,092
Poe
18 years ago
2 weeks ago
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Won't matter a thing when Wenger wraps it in in 2 years and Arsenal come calling...
Sam
18 years ago
2 years ago
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K3V0
16 years ago
1 year ago
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He'll be gone next summer.

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