Vercoe
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So you're suggesting dropping a form player, for a big name?


More like dropping someone who's had their chance for someone who is the future I reckon.
VP.
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Absolute bollocks, so if a player plays badly x amount of seasons ago they should never play for their country again? You pick on form not reputation, it's that kind of thinking that has fucked the national team since Sven took over.
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Sam
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"ROOOONEYYYYY"

Turn my attention to it and it's Ox heading it in. Nice one Clive.
Crane
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Cracking ball from Wilshere like.
Vercoe
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Absolute bollocks, so if a player plays badly x amount of seasons ago they should never play for their country again? You pick on form not reputation, it's that kind of thinking that has fucked the national team since Sven took over.


I'm not saying that at all, I'm just saying if we're building for the future then we need to play our younger players. I was only playing devil's advocate anyway, I don't really give a shit about the national team.
George14brfc
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BR.
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So you're suggesting dropping a form player, for a big name?


Barkley isn't really a big name - but he could become one if he gets some playing time.

We've known for years what Downing can and can't do on the international stage, let's see what Barkley can give us.

Downing's off now anyway.
VP.
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Sam
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Nice header Wayne.
bmg033
10 years ago
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2 great headers so far!
George14brfc
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Crane
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Thought this was going to be uncomfortable. Been anything but so far.
Sam
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Very nice goal.
Poe
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BR.
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That third goal was beautiful. Great stuff England! Most enjoyable England game for ages.
Chera
17 years ago
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Clyne finally been given a chance and showing what he can do.
VP.
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Fraser Forster, Joe Hart

Leighton Baines, Gary Cahill, Nathaniel Clyne, Kieran Gibbs, Phil Jagielka, Phil Jones, Luke Shaw, Chris Smalling, Kyle Walker

Ross Barkley, Michael Carrick, Fabian Delph, Jordan Henderson, Adam Lallana, James Milner, Raheem Sterling, Andros Townsend, Theo Walcott

Harry Kane, Wayne Rooney, Daniel Sturridge, Danny Welbeck
bmg033
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EDIT: VP. beat me to it.
Poe
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Young instead of Townsend, literally any holding midfield player over Barkley and Austin over Welbeck and that would be alright.

Think Bertrand deserves a go too, but so do Gibbs and Shaw.

Jones and Smalling aren't very good either. But neither are anybody else.
bmg033
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Young instead of Townsend, literally any holding midfield player over Barkley and Austin over Welbeck and that would be alright.

Think Bertrand deserves a go too, but so do Gibbs and Shaw.

Jones and Smalling aren't very good either. But neither are anybody else.

I don't get why Bertrand isn't in there. He should surely replace either Baines or Shaw.
Ninja
15 years ago
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Young instead of Townsend, literally any holding midfield player over Barkley and Austin over Welbeck and that would be alright.

Think Bertrand deserves a go too, but so do Gibbs and Shaw.

Jones and Smalling aren't very good either. But neither are anybody else.


Who? The only player I can really think of is Ryan Mason, and the main problem about him is he's not very good and has only played a handful of games for Spurs. Barry's been diabolical whenever I've seen him this season, and thats about it.
bmg033
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Who? The only player I can really think of is Ryan Mason, and the main problem about him is he's not very good and has only played a handful of games for Spurs. Barry's been diabolical whenever I've seen him this season, and thats about it.

Mason isn't a holding midfielder and he has actually been decent for us this season, though not good enough for an England call. The only holding midfielder we have is Barry and he certainly shouldn't be in the the squad at the moment. Will probably end up with Milner playing there.
Based Jorge
11 years ago
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Andros Townsend

How the fuck?
Shola
16 years ago
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Jack Cork or Colback, I guess?
Poe
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Who? The only player I can really think of is Ryan Mason, and the main problem about him is he's not very good and has only played a handful of games for Spurs. Barry's been diabolical whenever I've seen him this season, and thats about it.


Jack Cork has had a solid season, as has Colback and Cattermole.

I know they're unfashionable and also not very good - but they're something.

There literally isn't one defensive minded midfielder in that squad. There's no wonder we get hammered by better sides.
.verse
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Bertrand has been stiff to not get a chance. Also not sure how Cahill has been picked, he's been horrid for a lot of the season, but I suppose the lack of any other real quality central defenders with experience has saved him.

Austin has also been unlucky, deserves a crack considering his form in a completely horrid QPR side.
bmg033
10 years ago
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Koeman on the Forster injury: "Fraser is at hospital and it is looking bad"

I imagine that would mean Butland moves up to the senior squad. Or maybe Rob Green.
K3V0
16 years ago
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Koeman on the Forster injury: "Fraser is at hospital and it is looking bad"

I imagine that would mean Butland moves up to the senior squad. Or maybe Rob Green.


Looked like his knee popped out as he planted his foot.

Say it's a cruciate gone or perhaps dislocated knee.
Ninja
15 years ago
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Jack Cork has had a solid season, as has Colback and Cattermole.

I know they're unfashionable and also not very good - but they're something.

There literally isn't one defensive minded midfielder in that squad. There's no wonder we get hammered by better sides.


There's no point having players playing for the sake of playing if you don't have them. Those 3 (with the possible exception of Jack Cork although he's not a world beater and unlikely to improve much) just aren't good enough.

The only workable midfield England have got is something like Carrick at the base, Henderson going box to box and someone else alongside them but I doubt you're ever going to get that because you've somehow got to fit Rooney, Kane and Sturridge in up top.

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