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By Ninja | Permalink | On 22 November 2012 - 16:45 PM
As effective as Pulis football is, it's also going to be a hugely limiting factor that ensures the club goes no where.

To be fair it's better to watch than Liverpool circa 2011.
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By jumberto | Permalink | On 22 November 2012 - 16:26 PM
Yeah I don't like them at all but Stoke aren't really the same. As a team they're aggressive but they don't really go about trying to cause injury, they're just rough. There's a few of them like Huth, Wilkinson and Adam but they've always been dirty players and they do get called for it, despite not playing for the mighty Liverpool Football Club.

The main thing for me is that make Suarez worse is that, if Stoke are on the receiving end of a foul they usually take it well and carry on without much fuss, as it's all part of their image. Suarez is the complete opposite, he dishes it out regularly but any sort of movement near him and he's screaming and rolling about, so the fact he's doing that and also going about hurting people makes him more of a cunt.


DISCLAIMER: THIS ISN'T A BLIND DEFENCE OF SUAREZ. DISCLAIMER OVER.

I actually think on the diving front he's been better since the Stoke game. He's still not exactly a hard man but his theatrics have been reduced I think. His reactions were getting to the stage where he'd get fouled but not get it because of the way he goes down, and thankfully he seems to have improved that side of his game (for now).
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By Abbott | Permalink | On 22 November 2012 - 18:23 PM
DISCLAIMER: THIS ISN'T A BLIND DEFENCE OF SUAREZ. DISCLAIMER OVER.

I actually think on the diving front he's been better since the Stoke game. He's still not exactly a hard man but his theatrics have been reduced I think. His reactions were getting to the stage where he'd get fouled but not get it because of the way he goes down, and thankfully he seems to have improved that side of his game (for now).

Fair enough. I haven't seen your last couple of games so you could be right. Here's hoping. He's a genuinely exciting player but he's also just an utter dick to go with it.
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By Jaygull | Permalink | On 22 November 2012 - 12:18 PM
So you think if Luis Suarez played for Manchester United or Chelsea, his diving and cheating exploits wouldn't be brought to everyone's attention?


No its just the same with United, Chelsea, Arsenal, any of the teams with a bigger fan base. Like has been pointed out though if he played for another club outside of those 4 teams it wouldn't constantly get bought up. Going to get flamed for this but Fellani has abit of a history of elbows and rash challenges but its just seen as abit of a joke when something involves him for some reason. I understand that the racism thing and the bite from Suarez years ago adds to it all but still no one can deny people focus on anything Suarez does alot more.
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You implicitly claimed that it was purely because he played for Liverpool that people think he's a cunt.
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By Jaygull | Permalink | On 22 November 2012 - 18:39 PM
You implicitly claimed that it was purely because he played for Liverpool that people think he's a cunt.

I meant that anything he does it highlighted more because he plays for Liverpool, its fairly clear hes abit of a cunt.

Actually its fairly clear i meant that, as its exactly what i said in my last post.
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By Ninja | Permalink | On 22 November 2012 - 17:08 PM
Their football is positively breathtaking in comparison to some of the shite you were served up before winning the Abu Dhabi oil money lottery, in fairness.

Nice to have you back to your best.
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Ninja is becoming a lot like KM lately.
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By duckeggmoon | Permalink | On 22 November 2012 - 20:43 PM
Nice to have you back to your best.


You were managed by Stuart Pearce, need I say more?

By Carroll. | Permalink | On 22 November 2012 - 21:39 PM
Ninja is becoming a lot like KM lately.


Yeah, apart from the fact I was obviously taking the piss? Or do I need to put 10 million smileys before that's obvious?
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By Ninja | Permalink | On 22 November 2012 - 16:45 PM
Oh are we having a go at Stoke?

I'll have a go at Stoke.

There's something to be said for the fact that it works, but I hate how people think that because it's effective it's therefore admirable. They're a horrible little club, from a horrible little city managed by a horrible cunt. In fact, Stoke City are a fantastic advert for why you should never go to Stoke.

Their fans also seem to think that we have some kind of rivalry, which is funny, because they're so insignificant. I think their biggest PROPER rivalry is with Port Vale, that says it all.

I also can't stand how stagnant they are, they're going no where. As effective as Pulis football is, it's also going to be a hugely limiting factor that ensures the club goes no where. There going to slide slowly, slowly, towards the relegation zones and one day the specter of Stoke City will be happily removed from this division finishing the story of the most pointless team that's ever been in the Premiership.

But, just like watching them, talking about Stoke is boring. No one likes Stoke, no one will defend them and no one disagrees. The greatest compliment I'd take if I was a Liverpool fan on here is that you are at least important enough, still, to be actively hated. I'd be worried about the day no one hates United any more, because it would mean, for some reason, that we were no longer important enough to be hated.


Most arrogant post ever?
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By Shola | Permalink | On 22 November 2012 - 23:16 PM
Most arrogant post ever?

How the hell is it arrogant?
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I agree, that criticism made no sense whatsoever.
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From the third tier to midtable Premier League in 12 years, appearing in an FA Cup Final, qualifying for Europe and nearly trebling attendances. Maybe thats no where by Manchester United standards. And it should be noted that Pulis is generally aiming for a higher class of player. Charlie Adam, Steven N'Zonzi and Peter Crouch are certainly better than general big cloggers. As well as Palacios, Owen, and attempts to sign Ba and Huddlestone etc.

Of course Stoke's style of play is going put of a lot of players and being a limiting factor, but that argument doesn't make sense, as those players wouldn't be willing to play for a mid-table Championship side playing a more attractive style of football.
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By Shola | Permalink | On 23 November 2012 - 01:51 AM
From the third tier to midtable Premier League in 12 years, appearing in an FA Cup Final, qualifying for Europe and nearly trebling attendances. Maybe thats no where by Manchester United standards. And it should be noted that Pulis is generally aiming for a higher class of player. Charlie Adam, Steven N'Zonzi and Peter Crouch are certainly better than general big cloggers. As well as Palacios, Owen, and attempts to sign Ba and Huddlestone etc.

Of course Stoke's style of play is going put of a lot of players and being a limiting factor, but that argument doesn't make sense, as those players wouldn't be willing to play for a mid-table Championship side playing a more attractive style of football.

All players who have played in relegated sides, or been generally unwanted by bigger clubs. I'm not saying it's not an improvement on the likes of Delap but they're hardly coups or particularly unsurprising transfers for a lower mid-prem club. When you consider the players that Fulham, West Brom, Sunderland etc.. have signed and been able to sign I hardly think Stoke's transfer dealings deserve particular credit, especially when they have the financial clout of bet365 behind them.

Besides, I think you've completely missed the point. Yes Stoke have come a long way, yes the run to the FA Cup final was impressive but, and not to belittle it, given their run to the final (Cardiff, Wolves, Brighton, West Ham, Bolton) you'd have to say they were favorites in every game. It's an achievement but when teams like Birmingham City can win cup competitions whilst getting relegated lets be careful not to over-state the importance of a fortuitous draw. When you consider that Portsmouth x2, Cardiff, West Ham, Millwall and Southampton have played FA Cup finals in the past 10 years, I think it puts Stoke's achievements into perspective. Impressive? Yes. Does it really tell us anything about Stoke? Probably not.

They were 14th last season with 45 points, 13th the year before with 46, 11th the year before with 47, 12th the season before that with 45. In 4 seasons in the Premier League they've accumulated almost identical totals of points, this is despite having a net spend which, off the top of my head, puts them amongst the top 5 highest spenders since there promotion. Their spending a lot of money to go absolutely no where,

And this is my argument, Stoke City play a brand of football that has been very successful in getting them to this point but it is now, and you admit this, a factor limiting them in the Premiership. They're definitely not going forward in terms of points, and in terms of league finishes they're dropping back. I can't see how they can address the problem of having a team filled with physical players with notoriously low technique without effectively playing for a whole new squad, so, the fact that they've filled their team with this type of player will, I believe, lead them to relegation.

You might disagree with that prediction of what will happen, but I can't see how you can label any of the evidence upon which I've made it as 'arrogant'.
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Stoke went for a higher class of player because they were spending shitloads of money.

They spend about 15m+ a season and they very rarely sell anyone for a significant amount.
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This is old as sin and I'm sure KL is going to get all defensive but it's fucking hilarious if you haven't seen it.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n533/adexkola/2yvtelt.jpg
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What the fuck is that? I've never seen/heard of that before.
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Liverpool hire 'expert on common sense'
Peters will work one day a week at Liverpool's Melwood training ground

Liverpool have appointed Steve Peters, the sports psychologist credited with helping to transform the fortunes of British cycling, to work with manager Brendan Rodgers and his team.

Peters, whom Bradley Wiggins called "a world expert on common sense", will work one day a week at Liverpool's Melwood training ground in addition to his commitments with UK Athletics.

"As a manager, it can be a lonely business when you are trying to drive the club forward," said Rodgers as he prepared to return to Swansea, where, despite his achievements at the Liberty Stadium, he may not receive a warm reception.

He confirmed that Peters's work would not just be confined to Liverpool's players but extend to his own backroom staff. "It is nice to have a different set of eyes and experiences," Rodgers said. "I do a lot of technical, tactical and physical training and sometimes what gets bypassed is the mental thing for players, especially in the modern game at the top level."

Peters worked with mentally ill patients at Rampton Hospital before turning his attention to sport and has had limited involvement in football, although Craig Bellamy employed him in a personal capacity and credited him with an upswing in form that helped him take Liverpool to last season's League Cup final. Bellamy said that Peters's work stresses becoming not a better footballer but a more rational person, who can think more clearly under pressure.

Rodgers said: "I have always worked with neurologists, who are not just about sport but life, really. Sometimes, having someone independent to support you is good.

"We have brought in someone who is one of the leading guys in the world in what he does – and it is a real coup for us."
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By Abbott | Permalink | On 24 November 2012 - 12:00 PM
What the fuck is that? I've never seen/heard of that before.

Made by plech on redcafe. Just a bit of light hearted ribbing.
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By Ninja | Permalink | On 24 November 2012 - 11:47 AM
This is old as sin and I'm sure KL is going to get all defensive but it's fucking hilarious if you haven't seen it.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n533/adexkola/2yvtelt.jpg


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That's golden.
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Suarez is just a clumsy bitch. Look at the way he dribbles, I'm surprised he can run in a straight line.
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He's actually just a tremendously misunderstood individual with an inner ear infection
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By Slashman X | Permalink | On 27 November 2012 - 21:21 PM
He's actually just a tremendously misunderstood individual with an inner ear infection


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Could we not have just ONE Liverpool fan who admits that Suarez is a fucking cunt?

I'll even start it off:
John Terry is a scummy moron, who probably deserves every bad thing that comes his way.
Ivanovic is dirty and has a weird tendency to dive.
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I think we accept he does cunty things, but we love his skill and the fact that he plays for us means we try to forget about it
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Another innocent mistake.

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