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jumberto
To be fair it's better to watch than Liverpool circa 2011.
Abbott
DISCLAIMER: THIS ISN'T A BLIND DEFENCE OF SUAREZ. DISCLAIMER OVER.
I actually think on the diving front he's been better since the Stoke game. He's still not exactly a hard man but his theatrics have been reduced I think. His reactions were getting to the stage where he'd get fouled but not get it because of the way he goes down, and thankfully he seems to have improved that side of his game (for now).
Vercoe
jumberto
Fair enough. I haven't seen your last couple of games so you could be right. Here's hoping. He's a genuinely exciting player but he's also just an utter dick to go with it.
King Luis
No its just the same with United, Chelsea, Arsenal, any of the teams with a bigger fan base. Like has been pointed out though if he played for another club outside of those 4 teams it wouldn't constantly get bought up. Going to get flamed for this but Fellani has abit of a history of elbows and rash challenges but its just seen as abit of a joke when something involves him for some reason. I understand that the racism thing and the bite from Suarez years ago adds to it all but still no one can deny people focus on anything Suarez does alot more.
Jamieandhisego
King Luis
I meant that anything he does it highlighted more because he plays for Liverpool, its fairly clear hes abit of a cunt.
Actually its fairly clear i meant that, as its exactly what i said in my last post.
bluemoon.
Nice to have you back to your best.
Carroll.
Ninja
You were managed by Stuart Pearce, need I say more?
Yeah, apart from the fact I was obviously taking the piss? Or do I need to put 10 million smileys before that's obvious?
Shola
Most arrogant post ever?
Ninja
How the hell is it arrogant?
Jamieandhisego
Shola
Of course Stoke's style of play is going put of a lot of players and being a limiting factor, but that argument doesn't make sense, as those players wouldn't be willing to play for a mid-table Championship side playing a more attractive style of football.
Ninja
All players who have played in relegated sides, or been generally unwanted by bigger clubs. I'm not saying it's not an improvement on the likes of Delap but they're hardly coups or particularly unsurprising transfers for a lower mid-prem club. When you consider the players that Fulham, West Brom, Sunderland etc.. have signed and been able to sign I hardly think Stoke's transfer dealings deserve particular credit, especially when they have the financial clout of bet365 behind them.
Besides, I think you've completely missed the point. Yes Stoke have come a long way, yes the run to the FA Cup final was impressive but, and not to belittle it, given their run to the final (Cardiff, Wolves, Brighton, West Ham, Bolton) you'd have to say they were favorites in every game. It's an achievement but when teams like Birmingham City can win cup competitions whilst getting relegated lets be careful not to over-state the importance of a fortuitous draw. When you consider that Portsmouth x2, Cardiff, West Ham, Millwall and Southampton have played FA Cup finals in the past 10 years, I think it puts Stoke's achievements into perspective. Impressive? Yes. Does it really tell us anything about Stoke? Probably not.
They were 14th last season with 45 points, 13th the year before with 46, 11th the year before with 47, 12th the season before that with 45. In 4 seasons in the Premier League they've accumulated almost identical totals of points, this is despite having a net spend which, off the top of my head, puts them amongst the top 5 highest spenders since there promotion. Their spending a lot of money to go absolutely no where,
And this is my argument, Stoke City play a brand of football that has been very successful in getting them to this point but it is now, and you admit this, a factor limiting them in the Premiership. They're definitely not going forward in terms of points, and in terms of league finishes they're dropping back. I can't see how they can address the problem of having a team filled with physical players with notoriously low technique without effectively playing for a whole new squad, so, the fact that they've filled their team with this type of player will, I believe, lead them to relegation.
You might disagree with that prediction of what will happen, but I can't see how you can label any of the evidence upon which I've made it as 'arrogant'.
Flash.
They spend about 15m+ a season and they very rarely sell anyone for a significant amount.
Ninja
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Abbott
Ninja
Made by plech on redcafe. Just a bit of light hearted ribbing.
King Luis
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The Platypus
I'll even start it off:
John Terry is a scummy moron, who probably deserves every bad thing that comes his way.
Ivanovic is dirty and has a weird tendency to dive.
rossiheslopi
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