StevoRobbo
13 years ago
2 months ago
20
Not all wages are disclosed when a player is transferred, in this situation we assume the player is on the same wages as before.

To combat this, we can make the game set the wage based on the clubs "average" wage budget by setting the players waye as £0 in our update, neither of the two will be realistic, its just the way it is.


Could you not just come up with a realistic figure then? Or maybe in the Southampton case give him around the same wage as Clyne currently has seeing as he is more than likely going to be his replacement? Somthing must be better than how it currently is. A (most probably) starting Premier League right back in a top 10 team thats just been bought only on £4k a week? Should be around £15-25k IMO, Even at £15k its a lot more realistic.

Obviously the database is massive with thousands of transfers but on the occasion where an educated guess could be applied, I think that would be the way to go rather than wages massively out of proportion. Not every tom, dick or harry but the few of you that confirm the transfers. Us users could suggest a wage with the transfer. If you dont know much about the league then fair enough, either take the suggestion, or leave it like you currently do, but for the more well known leagues and transfers I dont think an educated guess would do any harm. Certainly better than having players £15-30k a week (in most cases) away from their probable wage.

Edit: Case in point. The previous post calls for a clause to be removed because its unrealistic to have that clause at his new club. Obviously thats been thought about and agree'd and its going to be removed, which is correct and more than justifyable. Is it not unrealistic for a newly bought Premier League player which has been bought more than likely to start games to only be on £4k a week? Some of their U-21 players that havent kicked a first team ball yet will be on more than that surely?

We can all accept that not everything in the update is going to be spot on. Neither is the official database. But a bit of common sense could be applied a bit more often especially with big things like wages which obviously affect the games for better or worse with regards to budgets. For Southampton its great. Brand new player only on £4k a week so still got £X to play with in the kitty.

So just something to have a think about maybe. KUTGW (Just seen van der Vaart has been dropped to £42k a week. Thats more like it )
Jason
18 years ago
3 days ago
4,641
Could you not just come up with a realistic figure then? Or maybe in the Southampton case give him around the same wage as Clyne currently has seeing as he is more than likely going to be his replacement? Somthing must be better than how it currently is. A (most probably) starting Premier League right back in a top 10 team thats just been bought only on £4k a week? Should be around £15-25k IMO, Even at £15k its a lot more realistic.

Obviously the database is massive with thousands of transfers but on the occasion where an educated guess could be applied, I think that would be the way to go rather than wages massively out of proportion. Not every tom, dick or harry but the few of you that confirm the transfers. Us users could suggest a wage with the transfer. If you dont know much about the league then fair enough, either take the suggestion, or leave it like you currently do, but for the more well known leagues and transfers I dont think an educated guess would do any harm. Certainly better than having players £15-30k a week (in most cases) away from their probable wage.

Edit: Case in point. The previous post calls for a clause to be removed because its unrealistic to have that clause at his new club. Obviously thats been thought about and agree'd and its going to be removed, which is correct and more than justifyable. Is it not unrealistic for a newly bought Premier League player which has been bought more than likely to start games to only be on £4k a week? Some of their U-21 players that havent kicked a first team ball yet will be on more than that surely?

We can all accept that not everything in the update is going to be spot on. Neither is the official database. But a bit of common sense could be applied a bit more often especially with big things like wages which obviously affect the games for better or worse with regards to budgets. For Southampton its great. Brand new player only on £4k a week so still got £X to play with in the kitty.

So just something to have a think about maybe. KUTGW (Just seen van der Vaart has been dropped to £42k a week. Thats more like it )


I totally see where you are coming from mate, however its not just as simple as putting X player on 15k per week, and the reason is because of the game. Last season the player in question was on a wage of 4k, but in the recent season he's become good enough to get recognition from a Premier League club, so they sign him, the thing is, the player is still going to be the same ability on the game as he were at his old club, because we don't believe in changing CA/PA as its peoples opinion.

I agree that 4k may be unrealistic, but others may not, i'll adjust it to be a few k more, but it won't be anywhere near 15k-20k

Wages also mess with the balance of the game more than people would think.
kingrobbo
15 years ago
2 hours ago
11,512
I see the update now contains promotions/relegations, that's great


just wondering if there are plans to update european places too eg Man Utd to champions league/liverpool to Europa etc etc
RoCCo_42
18 years ago
10 hours ago
7,836
Loaded with injuries during last seasons, former German international striker Patrick Helmes announced having quit football at just 31 years old. Together with Uwe Grauer, they will be co-trainer for FC Koln Under-21 squad manager Martin Heck.
Jason
18 years ago
3 days ago
4,641
Updated some of these just now.

Please submit any player retirements/deaths here as they currently can't be submitted, however i can manually add them.
Deleted Account #199688
Updated some of these just now.

Please submit any player retirements/deaths here as they currently can't be submitted, however i can manually add them.


Two Players Dominik Burusic and Bernhard Schachner actually retired.

http://www.bundesliga.at/index.php?id=577608 [german]
Jason
18 years ago
3 days ago
4,641
I see the update now contains promotions/relegations, that's great


just wondering if there are plans to update european places too eg Man Utd to champions league/liverpool to Europa etc etc


https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/JzR0VAWVz3QmK2too4kKobVrPefP33qwzx9kQkpw.png



Two Players Dominik Burusic and Bernhard Schachner actually retired.

http://www.bundesliga.at/index.php?id=577608 [german]


Thanks for this information.
bigpole
12 years ago
5 hours ago
9,376
I have a question, if player is loaned to a club but he is returning to his main club - what should I do in the update? Release him (from club he is loaned to) ? or Move ( from club he is loaned to the Main club) ?
Deleted Account #199688
RoCCo_42
18 years ago
10 hours ago
7,836
Until now at Amkar Perm, 37-year-old right back Zahari Sirakov has decided to quit professional football.
Jason
18 years ago
3 days ago
4,641
I have a question, if player is loaned to a club but he is returning to his main club - what should I do in the update? Release him (from club he is loaned to) ? or Move ( from club he is loaned to the Main club) ?


Post in here and i will get that loan move disabled. .
pingas
15 years ago
1 month ago
14
Is there anyway to add Wst Ham in the Europa League ? Thank's
kingrobbo
15 years ago
2 hours ago
11,512
Is there anyway to add Wst Ham in the Europa League ? Thank's


just open europa league you will see registered teams/swap west ham with 1 of the other english teams..
Jason
18 years ago
3 days ago
4,641
Is there anyway to add Wst Ham in the Europa League ? Thank's


Not without swapping another Premier League team, on FM 15 you can only have 4 participants from one league, in real life its 5 now. The only way we could accomplish that in FM 15 is to rewrite the whole of the European competitions, which would take an absolute age.
Footygamer
18 years ago
2 days ago
98,200
I have a question, if player is loaned to a club but he is returning to his main club - what should I do in the update? Release him (from club he is loaned to) ? or Move ( from club he is loaned to the Main club) ?

Post in here and i will get that loan move disabled. .

I think he is confused by the fact that our database stills says he is at the club that he is loaned to.

You shouldn't need to do anything, we have removed all the loans in our update.

We should probably try and get our online database inline with the update to make things less confusing.
pingas
15 years ago
1 month ago
14
just open europa league you will see registered teams/swap west ham with 1 of the other english teams..


thank's for the advise , one more thing how do you "open the europa league " ?

thank's
Godtfredsen
15 years ago
1 week ago
1,212
I am trying to move a staff and a few players to Odense Boldklub (OB), but I can simply not find the team in the dropdown menu. Can you help out with that?

Its regarding Kent Nielsen, new manager in OB on a 4 year deal (30.06.2019). http://www.bold.dk/nyt/kent-nielsen-tager-over-i-ob

Michael Falkesgaard on a two years deal (30.06.2017) http://www.bold.dk/nyt/ob-napper-michael-falkesgaard

Oliver Lund on a two yeard deal (30.06.2017) http://www.bold.dk/nyt/ob-henter-oliver-lund-i-fcv

Thanks in advance
bigpole
12 years ago
5 hours ago
9,376
I am trying to move a staff and a few players to Odense Boldklub (OB), but I can simply not find the team in the dropdown menu. Can you help out with that?

Its regarding Kent Nielsen, new manager in OB on a 4 year deal (30.06.2019). http://www.bold.dk/nyt/kent-nielsen-tager-over-i-ob

Michael Falkesgaard on a two years deal (30.06.2017) http://www.bold.dk/nyt/ob-napper-michael-falkesgaard

Oliver Lund on a two yeard deal (30.06.2017) http://www.bold.dk/nyt/ob-henter-oliver-lund-i-fcv

Thanks in advance


if a player has common name or surname it's better to search by ID. At least you've got 100% chance that player you're trying to edit is correct
Jason
18 years ago
3 days ago
4,641
I am trying to move a staff and a few players to Odense Boldklub (OB), but I can simply not find the team in the dropdown menu. Can you help out with that?

Its regarding Kent Nielsen, new manager in OB on a 4 year deal (30.06.2019). http://www.bold.dk/nyt/kent-nielsen-tager-over-i-ob

Michael Falkesgaard on a two years deal (30.06.2017) http://www.bold.dk/nyt/ob-napper-michael-falkesgaard

Oliver Lund on a two yeard deal (30.06.2017) http://www.bold.dk/nyt/ob-henter-oliver-lund-i-fcv

Thanks in advance


http://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-2015/team/545/ob

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kingrobbo
15 years ago
2 hours ago
11,512
thank's for the advise , one more thing how do you "open the europa league " ?

thank's


search for europa league under comps

select it

on left hand menu you will various folders...details/ history/ teams for next season etc etc

strangely its not in the teams for next season folder its in registered teams ....look in there you will see a long list and alongside them will be their seedings
so if you want to go straight to group stage you need to swap with a team seeded 1...
Godtfredsen
15 years ago
1 week ago
1,212
Sorry but I am not sure that you guys understand the problem. I am aware that you easily can find Odense Boldklub here. The problem is that when I want to move these 3 people to Odense Boldklub, the team cannot be found in the dropdown menu after you had clicked 'move to another club'.
Nikos Ninos
11 years ago
1 week ago
30
Parma in Serie D?
bigpole
12 years ago
5 hours ago
9,376
Sorry but I am not sure that you guys understand the problem. I am aware that you easily can find Odense Boldklub here. The problem is that when I want to move these 3 people to Odense Boldklub, the team cannot be found in the dropdown menu after you had clicked 'move to another club'.


I know what you mean now, and i think that it is a problem because you have to put first three letters to search and in Odense case it's really problematic. I could suggest searching the team by ID, but I don't know if that could be implemented.

And another thing - It's hard to move the manager from free agent to a club because there's no box you can tick 'free player' and I have to search in non-playing history to find his last club he was working in. If there's easier way, let me know, maybe I'm missing something

Few transfers from German, I put it here

Maximilian Wagener 91143476 -> loan to FSV Mainz II 879282
Dennis Engelman 91138209 -> transfer to Fortuna Koln 922
Niklas Lomb 91108274 -> loan to Preusen Munster 935
Simon Rolfes 884487 - retired
Thorben Marx 879059 - retired
Sebastian Kehl 3601047 -> retired
Tobias Weis 8707889 -> definitive transfer to Bochum 905
Janik Haberer 92056736 -> loaned to Bochum 905
Damian Rossbach 92026756 -> SV Sandhausen 6000006
Maximilian Thiel 92017840 -> definitive transfer to Union Berlin 121182
Tim Leibold 92063452 - remove future transfer and set FC Nurnberg player 899
Andre Mijatovic 126365 -> retired
Karl-Heinz Lappe 91014594 -> Bayern II 103287
Markus Miller 883440 -> retired
Footygamer
18 years ago
2 days ago
98,200
Sorry but I am not sure that you guys understand the problem. I am aware that you easily can find Odense Boldklub here. The problem is that when I want to move these 3 people to Odense Boldklub, the team cannot be found in the dropdown menu after you had clicked 'move to another club'.

It's because their team only has 2 letters (OB) and you need at 3 to search. I'll try and look into a way of fixing this.
Godtfredsen
15 years ago
1 week ago
1,212
It's because their team only has 2 letters (OB) and you need at 3 to search. I'll try and look into a way of fixing this.


Sure. The same problem also include the danish team AB (Akademisk Boldklub) really.

Thanks anyway. Let me know if and when it is fixed
bigpole
12 years ago
5 hours ago
9,376
some spanish transfers

Alfredo Ortuño 67086579 -> definitive transfer to Las Palmas 1772
Celso Borges 80000931 -> definitive transfer to Deportivo la Coruna 1705
Fidel 67053759 -> definitive transfer to Cordoba 1704
Javier Aquino 51010463 -> definitive transfer to Tigres 104360
Borja Oubiña 822668-> retired
Txema Anibarro 67002198 -> retired

Damian Kowalczyk 96052622 - 8 months ban
Daniel Ward 29058892 - new 4year contract. I've made mistake and give the contract for Rotherham Danny Ward so delete it if you can
Mirjalol Qosimov 477950 - resigned from Uzbekistan NT
Patrick Rossini 5729081 - definitive transfer to FC Lugano (1850) till 2018

Stéphane Grichting 2018518 - retired
BARRABAS1975
14 years ago
5 months ago
21
Emmanuel Gigliotti 14006432 loan to Chongqing 115940...This happened in February 2015

Emanuel Tripodi 951225 is free agent now.

Claudio Perez 965592 loan to Belgrano 81 from February 2015 to December 2015.

Guillermo Burdisso 965278 free transfer to Leon 1112
kingrobbo
15 years ago
2 hours ago
11,512
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33321836

guus hiddink leaves holland

I searched changes and he doesnt show up in database??


I also just used the search function looking for Carlos Bacca, it didnt show any results would suggest it isnt working for some reason
bigpole
12 years ago
5 hours ago
9,376
Michael Falkesgaard -> Odense
Helgi Daníelsson -> retired
Hans Mulder -> retired
Vladan Kujovic - retired
Davy Schollen -> retired
Zahari Sirakov -> retired
Ruslan Adjindjal -> retired
batiron
10 years ago
1 month ago
283
I `ve made the latest change on 6/24. Big transfer like Firmino to Liverpool has been changed successful inside the game.
However, some `minor` teams, like Atletico CP in division 3 of Portugal`s league, got ALL the players in fake name...

Is there something wrong with my editor data (too many or something wrong..)?? xml files are all in the editor data, is it the right place?
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11402972_10200555096076267_1411627705236999117_n.jpg?oh=09bf8a8f6d1688a3cfef6c5571f48953&oe=55ECFDB1
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/1534779_10200535974078229_6911044950783373478_o.jpg

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