Ninja
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City didn't let Sterling and Stones leave on a free 4 years ago


Tbh, I'm pretty happy with how its turned out. By sheer luck we'll have him for most of his best years. If he'd stayed then we'd be talking about his recent transfer to Real Madrid or more likely had a similar career path to Januzaj. Having been a club thats received a world record fee and now spent one, I can tell you which I prefer.
Based Jorge
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Everton paying £30m for Oxlade-Chamberlain with 5* skills

State of it
Sam
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Tbh, I'm pretty happy with how its turned out. By sheer luck we'll have him for most of his best years. If he'd stayed then we'd be talking about his recent transfer to Real Madrid or more likely had a similar career path to Januzaj. Having been a club thats received a world record fee and now spent one, I can tell you which I prefer.


Same, I can't imagine he'd have stayed long under Moyes or LvG, and as you say we'd be talking about his transfer away from the club.

A pretty good summer for us, for a change.
SpinSwimScream
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Bolasie off to Everton for £25m it seems
Ninja
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Looks like McNair and Love are off to Sunderland.
Number 1
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Fairly busy that, given Man City buying Stones funds Everton's move for Bolasie, which in turn funds Palace's move for Benteke. Though I'd rather have Bolasie than Benteke, even accounting for Palace's lack of strikers.

Maybe its fatigue but I really don't think anyone in that chain is worth the amounts speculated. Same too with Pogba. Still, that's the way it bafflingly is, so here goes nothing. Where in the MUFC team might Pogba fit?
Ninja
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Fairly busy that, given Man City buying Stones funds Everton's move for Bolasie, which in turn funds Palace's move for Benteke. Though I'd rather have Bolasie than Benteke, even accounting for Palace's lack of strikers.

Maybe its fatigue but I really don't think anyone in that chain is worth the amounts speculated. Same too with Pogba. Still, that's the way it bafflingly is, so here goes nothing. Where in the MUFC team might Pogba fit?


Am actually a little more worried about this than I probably should be. Long term it should be in a midfield three with Carrick (or more likely Carrick's replacement) behind him and Schneiderlin or Herrera next to him. Short term it will be in the two of a 4-2-3-1 until Mourinho fucks Rooney off which is a huge waste of his ability.

I just hope Mourinho has the balls to do to Rooney what he deserves, and that he does it quickly enough it doesn't de-rail our season.
bluemoon.
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Am actually a little more worried about this than I probably should be. Long term it should be in a midfield three with Carrick (or more likely Carrick's replacement) behind him and Schneiderlin or Herrera next to him. Short term it will be in the two of a 4-2-3-1 until Mourinho fucks Rooney off which is a huge waste of his ability.

I just hope Mourinho has the balls to do to Rooney what he deserves, and that he does it quickly enough it doesn't de-rail our season.

Be a massive waste if Pogba ends up stuck in a midfield two. 4-3-3 seems like the glaringly obvious choice for your mob.
Ninja
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Be a massive waste if Pogba ends up stuck in a midfield two. 4-3-3 seems like the glaringly obvious choice for your mob.


Don't we all know it.

It's weird though. We've bought 4 players and 3 of them are obvious improvements on Rooney. He's probably the worst option to play as a '10' (behind Mata, Mhiki, Pogba himself and even bloody Lingard) that we have, and yet he'll start the season there despite being so awful there under Van Gaal he ended up playing at defensive midfield at times.

I guess we can only hope that he's so shit by the time Pogba gets match fit that he's already out of the picture.
HRiddick
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Am actually a little more worried about this than I probably should be. Long term it should be in a midfield three with Carrick (or more likely Carrick's replacement) behind him and Schneiderlin or Herrera next to him. Short term it will be in the two of a 4-2-3-1 until Mourinho fucks Rooney off which is a huge waste of his ability.

I just hope Mourinho has the balls to do to Rooney what he deserves, and that he does it quickly enough it doesn't de-rail our season.


Cannot see any future beyond this season for Carrick at the club myself. Of course he deserved his extension this year and has been a wonderful player but last season it looked that playing at this level is getting beyond him. I'm worried if he is the man chosen to play in the inevitable midfield 2 alongside Pogba (hopefully as you said it'll change to the three when Rooney is found out by Mourinho...), he is too static despite his awareness is incredibly vulnerable during a counter attack as part of a midfield two. Even behind Pogba and Hererra or Schneiderlin in a three I'd rather see Blind but Mourinho doesn't seem to fancy him if reports are to be believed...
Ninja
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Cannot see any future beyond this season for Carrick at the club myself. Of course he deserved his extension this year and has been a wonderful player but last season it looked that playing at this level is getting beyond him. I'm worried if he is the man chosen to play in the inevitable midfield 2 alongside Pogba (hopefully as you said it'll change to the three when Rooney is found out by Mourinho...), he is too static despite his awareness is incredibly vulnerable during a counter attack as part of a midfield two. Even behind Pogba and Hererra or Schneiderlin in a three I'd rather see Blind but Mourinho doesn't seem to fancy him if reports are to be believed...


In all honesty, I was disappointed Carrick's contract was renewed and would have let him go. I see the logic behind it, but its also clear that theres a clique of Ferguson era senior players who actively undermined our past two managers, leak negative stories to the press, and down tools when the going got tough. By process of elimination it had to be Carrick, Rooney or Giggs because, well, they were the only ones left by the end of Van Gaal's reign. The fact he was shit last season didn't help. At least Giggs has gone.

Fairly certain Blind will stay. He's started virtually every pre-season game, and provides cover across three positions. If we sell him and keep Fellaini and Young I'll cry.
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Am actually a little more worried about this than I probably should be. Long term it should be in a midfield three with Carrick (or more likely Carrick's replacement) behind him and Schneiderlin or Herrera next to him. Short term it will be in the two of a 4-2-3-1 until Mourinho fucks Rooney off which is a huge waste of his ability.

I just hope Mourinho has the balls to do to Rooney what he deserves, and that he does it quickly enough it doesn't de-rail our season.

A few have said that 4-2-3-1 is not the best use of his abilities. Certainly, he didn't look entirely good in a deeper role at the Euro's, although I'd imagine he'd be better fit in the middle of the 3 behind a striker.

I really don't know why MUFC are still pretending Rooney's any good. But he'll probably still be there against Bournemouth on Sunday, given Pogba didn't have a pre-season.
Franck
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Carlos Sanchez from Villa is heading to Fiorentina. Shocked anyone's willing to bid on any of Villa's players after last season tbh.
Based Jorge
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Imagine thinking Mourinho is ever going to drop Rooney. The man has been obsessed with him ever since he's been at Chelsea. Starting every game possible.
Jonas
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Carlos Sanchez from Villa is heading to Fiorentina. Shocked anyone's willing to bid on any of Villa's players after last season tbh.


Gueye to Everton the exception.
Carroll.
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Mkhatarian, Ibra, Martial front three, with Rooney, Pogba and Schneiderlin/Herrera behind would work, no?
Shola
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I'm confused by the signing of the Armenian though. Man Utd seem to have limited width and loads of 'number 10's'
Ninja
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Imagine thinking Mourinho is ever going to drop Rooney. The man has been obsessed with him ever since he's been at Chelsea. Starting every game possible.


He tried to sign him once as a striker before he fell off a cliff? At any rate, you're talking about a man that subbed John Terry at half time and then started phasing him out after playing him for every minute of the season before.

Mkhatarian, Ibra, Martial front three, with Rooney, Pogba and Schneiderlin/Herrera behind would work, no?


Already said Rooney won't play in midfield.

I'm confused by the signing of the Armenian though. Man Utd seem to have limited width and loads of 'number 10's'


For the right wing. Played most of his football there for Dortmund. Think it should work out alright, Valencia worked really well with Mata overlapping and giving width and Mhki works harder and has more pace than Mata (hopefully if pre-seasons anything to go by Valencia's remembered how to cross too).
Carroll.
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So where's he playing him? Up front with Ibra, with Mikh and Martial on wings?
Ninja
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So where's he playing him? Up front with Ibra, with Mikh and Martial on wings?


Don't think we've definitely seen that team together yet thanks to the cramped pre-season we've had, but that would be more or less my guess yes.
Carroll.
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Meh not that bad actually. Although yeah Pogba in a midfield two might be a little wasted. But feels you've got some cover for most positions.

So is Martial now a winger?
Ninja
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Meh not that bad actually. Although yeah Pogba in a midfield two might be a little wasted. But feels you've got some cover for most positions.

So is Martial now a winger?


Not in the traditional sense, but most of his best games came off the left last season and with the emergence of Rashford and the signing of Zlatan I don't see him playing at centre forward this season (if nothing else because if he doesn't play left wing then Memphis does...)
Based Jorge
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He tried to sign him once as a striker before he fell off a cliff? At any rate, you're talking about a man that subbed John Terry at half time and then started phasing him out after playing him for every minute of the season before.


Also talking about a man who is so insanely stubborn in his ways that he lost Chelsea's dressing room and led them to about 15th. Rooney will start every game possible and will only ever consider dropping him after an entire season of watching him
Shola
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He tried to sign him once as a striker before he fell off a cliff? At any rate, you're talking about a man that subbed John Terry at half time and then started phasing him out after playing him for every minute of the season before.

Already said Rooney won't play in midfield.

For the right wing. Played most of his football there for Dortmund. Think it should work out alright, Valencia worked really well with Mata overlapping and giving width and Mhki works harder and has more pace than Mata (hopefully if pre-seasons anything to go by Valencia's remembered how to cross too).


Ha, fair enough, always thought he was behind the striker. - Still a risk of him and Martial's instinct of both wanting to be inside though.
VP.
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Amazing how quick we can sign someone when we really have to.
Ninja
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Januzaj's gone on loan to Sunderland.

Happy with that. Good move for him, hopefully he can get stuck in and make up on lost time.
Sam
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Wrong one.
Shedender
18 years ago
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Steven Defour is apparently having a medical at Burnley.
Number 1
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Bolasie joins Everton for a fee that could reach £30m.

The economics of football transfers are mad. How the fuck is that the fee?
BR.
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Potentially £30m (at least £25m) for Bolaise, sweet Jesus. Crazy.

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