I suggest everybody clicks the "Notify me when updated" button to receive an email when the file is updated/amended in the future.

This file will need to be re-applied if/when patches/updates are released and when the full game comes out to ensure full compatibility. This is due to the fact that some files which are removed when installing this file are automatically re-installed by Steam when official patches come out.

Some of these changes, ESPECIALLY THE CLUB NAMES, may not apply in FMT or in existing save-games. There's a workaround for that in the first post.


The sortitoutsi real names fix changes the instances of fake names in Football Manager 2017 to the proper, real life names for awards, cities, stadiums and competitions, in cases where the actual name is not licensed. It will also fix the fact that the German and Japanese National teams don't call up real players. These are fully save-game compatible.

There is also a club name changes file, which changes the names of clubs in a way which ensures that any nicknames entered in the default database are retained. This file includes the proper names for German, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian and French clubs to circumvent licensing restrictions. It also adds real-life media and journalists, encompassing most major footballing nations and continents. Finally, it includes a small file which corrects the 3-Letter competition names to correspond with any changes made in the lnc files. For all the files in this paragraph to work, however, you will need to start a new game.


Follow the below instructions to install this version of this file

STEP 1.
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Football Manager 2017\data\db\1700
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Football Manager 2017\data\db\1701
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Football Manager 2017\data\db\1710
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Football Manager 2017\data\db\1712
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Football Manager 2017\data\db\1730
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders

Notes:
\Program Files (x86)\
could be
\Program Files\
depending on your set up.

Mac
OPEN
 / Users / username / Library / Application Support / Steam / SteamApps / common / Football Manager 2017 / data / db / 1700 
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
 / Users / username / Library / Application Support / Steam / SteamApps / common / Football Manager 2017 / data / db / 1701 
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
 / Users / username / Library / Application Support / Steam / SteamApps / common / Football Manager 2017 / data / db / 1710 
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
 / Users / username / Library / Application Support / Steam / SteamApps / common / Football Manager 2017 / data / db / 1712 
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
 / Users / username / Library / Application Support / Steam / SteamApps / common / Football Manager 2017 / data / db / 1730 
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders

You can find these folders by clicking, in the Finder, the Go menu in the menu bar, then choose Go to Folder and type the folder path name (obviously inserting your username), then click Go.

You can get to the Library folder by simply selecting Go from the top bar and holding "alt" key - The Library folder suddenly appears on the drop down

For Mac Lion users, the Library folder will be hidden. Use this link to find out how to show it.

Slightly more detail in this post



OPEN
/home/user/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Football Manager 2017/data/db/1700/
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
/home/user/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Football Manager 2017/data/db/1701/
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
/home/user/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Football Manager 2017/data/db/1710/
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
/home/user/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Football Manager 2017/data/db/1712/
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
/home/user/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Football Manager 2017/data/db/1730/
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders

Please note that the Local folder is hidden. Press (ctrl + h)



[b]OPEN
sdcard\Android\data\sportsinteractive.fm17\files\installed\data\db\1700
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
sdcard\Android\data\sportsinteractive.fm17\files\installed\data\db\1701
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
sdcard\Android\data\sportsinteractive.fm17\files\installed\data\db\1710
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders
OPEN
sdcard\Android\data\sportsinteractive.fm17\files\installed\data\db\1712
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders

OPEN
sdcard\Android\data\sportsinteractive.fm17\files\installed\data\db\1730
DELETE the dbc , edt and Inc folders[/spoiler]


STEP 2:
COPY the dbc, edt and Inc folders from the downloaded pack

STEP 3:
PASTE them into each of your respective folders mentioned in step 1.

These are what the folder structure should look like in all 5 of the 1700, 1701. 1710, 1712 and 1730 folders:

http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u344/maltamons/dbc%20permanent%20folder%20fm17.png~original
http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u344/maltamons/edt%20permanent%20folder%20fm17.png~original
http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u344/maltamons/lnc%20folder%20fm17.png~original

STEP 4:
COPY the 4 files located in the EDITOR DATA folder in the downloaded pack

STEP 5
PASTE to
\Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2017\editor data
This should be what your editor data folder looks like now (with 5 files rather than 4 as in this screenshot. There may initially be a config.xml file in this folder and it can be safely overwritten; it is generated by FM every time the game starts.
http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u344/maltamons/real%20name%20fix%20fm17.png~original




To make sure the files have been applied correctly, go to the Champions Cup and EURO Vase in your saved game, and they should be renamed to Champions League and Europa League respectively. If you are in the middle of a save-game, German national teams will be populated in the next instance that players are called up, and not instantly.

Club names are only changed if you apply the editor data files before starting a new game. For a workaround if you've already started a new save-game, then please read the opening post of this thread.
Comments
mons
17 years ago
10 hours ago
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mons
17 years ago
10 hours ago
85,497
@Zen_nataraj , sorry, I hadn't seen the second screenshot.

I don't want to call you a liar, but I don't believe it's possible for the names to be changed in the middle of a save-game if the licensing-related files were automatically added through the SI patch after the save-game had been started. I'm afraid there isn't any way round it now that the changes are in place
phd_angel
9 years ago
1 week ago
45
Premium
Mons,

Before suspecting I'm a liar, maybe you can read the instructions at the top of this page: "This file will need to be re-applied if/when patches/updates are released and when the full game comes outto ensure full compatibility."

This is exactly what I did: I reinstalled the name fix file after the 17.0.2 patch messed them to the original bogus names. But it didn't work.

I'm not here to waste our time (I'd rather be playing the game), and I don't mean to be rude, but I paid some 12 US dollars just to download your files which aren't working.

Any suggestions? Thank you.
Slates84
9 years ago
4 months ago
49
Premium
Just started a new game and the name changes are working fine ie UEFA Champions League but the German national teams still have fake players?
wicksyFM
15 years ago
2 months ago
71
Premium
Mons,

Before suspecting I'm a liar, maybe you can read the instructions at the top of this page: "This file will need to be re-applied if/when patches/updates are released and when the full game comes outto ensure full compatibility."

This is exactly what I did: I reinstalled the name fix file after the 17.0.2 patch messed them to the original bogus names. But it didn't work.

I'm not here to waste our time (I'd rather be playing the game), and I don't mean to be rude, but I paid some 12 US dollars just to download your files which aren't working.

Any suggestions? Thank you.



The exact same has happened to me. I started my save game before the 17.0.2 patch. Everything was fine. All Brazilian teams had correct names. I updated the game to 17.0.2 and now Brazilian teams have 3 letter names. I saw the same issue reported on other forums too. This is only on the save i started before the 17.0.2 patch. New save games everything is fine
mons
17 years ago
10 hours ago
85,497
Mons,

Before suspecting I'm a liar, maybe you can read the instructions at the top of this page: "This file will need to be re-applied if/when patches/updates are released and when the full game comes outto ensure full compatibility."

This is exactly what I did: I reinstalled the name fix file after the 17.0.2 patch messed them to the original bogus names. But it didn't work.

I'm not here to waste our time (I'd rather be playing the game), and I don't mean to be rude, but I paid some 12 US dollars just to download your files which aren't working.

Any suggestions? Thank you.

Sorry for being misunderstood, but I did not call you a liar, mate. I thought it may appear as if that was my intention (which I assure you is not the case), which is why I had edited my post and added that proviso at the start of the sentence.

But my point in my previous message still stands. As far as I know, it is not possible to change club names in the middle of a save-game through editor data files. Actually, let me amend that slightly: Up to FM16, it was not possible to do so. Though it may not make much sense for them to have done so, maybe SI have changed something behind the scenes to make this possible, perhaps for licensing reasons. Like I said, I'm afraid there isn't any way round it now that the changes are in place. Or at least if there is, then I don't know about it.

One more question so I can see if there's something which can be done at this stage - are the kit colours and style for Brazilian clubs as they should be or are they also bogus?

Edit: Seeing wicksyfm's post, my SI theory may be making a bit more sense now If SI have coded it that way, then I'm afraid there's not much I or anybody else can do. Here's hoping it's just a beta thing and not something which will be in place in the full game...




Just started a new game and the name changes are working fine ie UEFA Champions League but the German national teams still have fake players?

Can I have screenshots of your 1700 AND 1701 edt/permanent AND lnc folders please? I suspect there could be an extra file or files there which shouldn't be.
wicksyFM
15 years ago
2 months ago
71
Premium
Mons

Check the comments out in this link http://www.fmscout.com/a-fm17-real-names-license-fix.html

Stam, who i believe is in charge of the Fm Scout site (I may be wrong) is aware of this issue and hasn't been able to work out why it is happening
mons
17 years ago
10 hours ago
85,497
Mons

Check the comments out in this link http://www.fmscout.com/a-fm17-real-names-license-fix.html

Stam, who i believe is in charge of the Fm Scout site (I may be wrong) is aware of this issue and hasn't been able to work out why it is happening

Just added an edit to my earlier post because I hadn't seen your previous post when I wrote mine.

I can't comment on the effectiveness of the other guys' files (I think ours' are better tho' ) but the structure of this files is completely different than ours. The SI changes in Brazilian club names come from files in a different folder entirely to the folder in which his files are installed in. The changes in this download are different to his, because it deletes those files outright, thus negating the need to rename Brazilian clubs...

@wicksyFM and @Zen_nataraj Can I have a look at the contents of your lnc folders too please guys? Would like to check one more thing out.
wicksyFM
15 years ago
2 months ago
71
Premium
Just added an edit to my earlier post because I hadn't seen your previous post when I wrote mine.

I can't comment on the effectiveness of the other guys' files (I think ours' are better tho' ) but the structure of this files is completely different than ours. The SI changes in Brazilian club names come from files in a different folder entirely to the folder in which his files are installed in. The changes in this download are different to his, because it deletes those files outright, thus negating the need to rename Brazilian clubs...

@wicksyFM and @Zen_nataraj Can I have a look at the contents of your lnc folders too please guys? Would like to check one more thing out.



1700 INC
wicksyFM
15 years ago
2 months ago
71
Premium
Just added an edit to my earlier post because I hadn't seen your previous post when I wrote mine.

I can't comment on the effectiveness of the other guys' files (I think ours' are better tho' ) but the structure of this files is completely different than ours. The SI changes in Brazilian club names come from files in a different folder entirely to the folder in which his files are installed in. The changes in this download are different to his, because it deletes those files outright, thus negating the need to rename Brazilian clubs...

@wicksyFM and @Zen_nataraj Can I have a look at the contents of your lnc folders too please guys? Would like to check one more thing out.


1701 inc
wicksyFM
15 years ago
2 months ago
71
Premium


ignore this post im doing to many things at once
mons
17 years ago
10 hours ago
85,497
@wicksyFM yours' look fine - and your dbc folders look like zen_nataraj's at the bottom of the last page too, right?

I'm at a loss, frankly.

Like I say, in the past, any changes you made in the dbc folder could not affect your save-game once it had been started, whether you added or removed files. Hope it's not been changed by SI for FM17...
wicksyFM
15 years ago
2 months ago
71
Premium
Honestly Mons. I believe it has.
Ive seen the exact same issue reported on a few forums. I really hope this isnt an issue going froward.
My DBC folders have forbidden names in them. zen_nataraj's said he deleted these in his. but as far as im aware this makes no difference
mons
17 years ago
10 hours ago
85,497
Honestly Mons. I believe it has.
Ive seen the exact same issue reported on a few forums. I really hope this isnt an issue going froward.
My DBC folders have forbidden names in them. zen_nataraj's said he deleted these in his. but as far as im aware this makes no difference

My understanding is that the forbidden names file contains a list of words and text strings which cannot be included as part of the club name in the create a club feature and should have no effect on this issue. I'll keep an eye out on this and address it if at all possible...
wicksyFM
15 years ago
2 months ago
71
Premium
My understanding is that the forbidden names file contains a list of words and text strings which cannot be included as part of the club name in the create a club feature and should have no effect on this issue. I'll keep an eye out on this and address it if at all possible...


Thanks Mons. Hope you can get it sorted
mons
17 years ago
10 hours ago
85,497
Thanks Mons. Hope you can get it sorted

I hope so too
Slates84
9 years ago
4 months ago
49
Premium
Sorry for being misunderstood, but I did not call you a liar, mate. I thought it may appear as if that was my intention (which I assure you is not the case), which is why I had edited my post and added that proviso at the start of the sentence.

But my point in my previous message still stands. As far as I know, it is not possible to change club names in the middle of a save-game through editor data files. Actually, let me amend that slightly: Up to FM16, it was not possible to do so. Though it may not make much sense for them to have done so, maybe SI have changed something behind the scenes to make this possible, perhaps for licensing reasons. Like I said, I'm afraid there isn't any way round it now that the changes are in place. Or at least if there is, then I don't know about it.

One more question so I can see if there's something which can be done at this stage - are the kit colours and style for Brazilian clubs as they should be or are they also bogus?

Edit: Seeing wicksyfm's post, my SI theory may be making a bit more sense now If SI have coded it that way, then I'm afraid there's not much I or anybody else can do. Here's hoping it's just a beta thing and not something which will be in place in the full game...

Can I have screenshots of your 1700 AND 1701 edt/permanent AND lnc folders please? I suspect there could be an extra file or files there which shouldn't be.


Its fine, after i played on for a bit the squad turns correct once its picked for their first intl friendly
Carsie
14 years ago
10 hours ago
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Here are some Long and Short names Competitions for Northern Ireland

"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 130023 "NIFL Premiership" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 130024 " Northern Ireland Football League Championship" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 130024 "NIFL Championship" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 147023 "Northern Ireland Football League Premier Intermediate League" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 147023 "Premier Intermediate League" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 414225 "Championship Two League Cup" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 52025730 "Premiership Development League" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 52025730 "Premiership Development League" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 130027 "Northern Ireland Football League Cup" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 130026 "Irish Football Association Challenge Cup" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 130026 "Tennent's Irish Cup" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 416327 "Toals Steel and Sons Cup " ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 416327 "Steel & Sons Cup " ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 130025 "Northern Amateur League Premier Division" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 1900712 "Northern Amateur League Division 1A" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 1900713 "Northern Amateur League Division 1B" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 52025757 "Northern Amateur League Division 1C" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 52025827 "Northern Amateur League Division 2A" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 418021 "MUFL Intermediate A" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 52005285 "MUFL Intermediate B" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 52033665 "Daily Mirror Mid-Ulster Football League Division One" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 52033665 "MUFL Division One" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 52033668 "Daily Mirror Mid-Ulster Football League Division Two" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 52033668 "MUFL Division Two" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 52033673 "Down Area Winter Football League Premier Division" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 52033673 "DAWFL Premier Division" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 52033674 "Fermanagh & Western Mercer Cup Division One" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 52033674 "Mercer League Division One" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 52033675 "Fermanagh & Western Enda Love Cup Division Two" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 52033676 "Fermanagh & Western Brendan Keogh Memorial Cup Division Three" ""

Sources
Northern Ireland Football League
DAWFL Premier Division
Mid Ulster FL
Northern Amateur Football League
dante107
12 years ago
3 weeks ago
5
FM updated to 17.1...
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Award name is called SPFL not SPL. They only need to add one letter. Please fix this, thanks.
mons
17 years ago
10 hours ago
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phd_angel
9 years ago
1 week ago
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Mons - As you requested, snapshots of my lnc folders in 1700 and 1701.

Please let us know if there is any steps we can take to fix (Brazilian) club names in 17.0.2 version. Thanks.
Jubez
12 years ago
2 years ago
1,073
Mons - As you requested, snapshots of my lnc folders in 1700 and 1701.

Please let us know if there is any steps we can take to fix (Brazilian) club names in 17.0.2 version. Thanks.

You have the inc folder within another inc folder which is the problem.
mons
17 years ago
10 hours ago
85,497
You have the inc folder within another inc folder which is the problem.

@Zen_nataraj Jubez got there before me. You should DELETE the original dbc, edt and lnc files, and put the equivalent folders from the download instead of them. Don't merge, don't put the folders in the same place, just delete the old ones and put the new ones instead. Basically, the steps outlined in the next 20 seconds of this video.
DCU1996
11 years ago
3 years ago
117
Hey Mons I just added the latest update of yours to the latest game update and everything is fine except for the Brazil names. I have been looking to see if there is something I missed but so far can't find anything. What is it like on your end?
mons
17 years ago
10 hours ago
85,497
Hey Mons I just added the latest update of yours to the latest game update and everything is fine except for the Brazil names. I have been looking to see if there is something I missed but so far can't find anything. What is it like on your end?

Works fine. You will need to delete the dbc, edt and lnc folders in the 1710 folder too, and put the ones from this download instead.
DCU1996
11 years ago
3 years ago
117
Works fine. You will need to delete the dbc, edt and lnc folders in the 1710 folder too, and put the ones from this download instead.


I think I either didn't update on a previous update or something but hewre are a few screen shots.

This is after I fixed everything:
https://i.gyazo.com/076090acfcd352757a55d44a308cf649.png

This is from a save I started pre update:
https://i.gyazo.com/a7815ea83ff9d02b7df2ba28367de3f2.png

Yet the other names are right. So I must have done something:

https://i.gyazo.com/75725b546bc10042c7d1ba4dea83be84.png
mons
17 years ago
10 hours ago
85,497
I think I either didn't update on a previous update or something but hewre are a few screen shots.

This is after I fixed everything:

This is from a save I started pre update:

Yet the other names are right. So I must have done something:

There is a known issue, discussed earlier on this page, where users who applied this fix correctly still had the Brazilian names appearing incorrectly. In past versions of the game, this was not possible for technical reasons and was 100% always linked to a file installation error by the user. However, it looks like there may be an issue with this particular problem affecting save games too, although I must say I have not experienced it. Once the game is out, I will be able to make some tests at my end, but for now it is simply not possible to confirm or deny this.

In the meantime, can I have screenshots of your 1700, 1701 and 1710 dbc/permanent folders? I just want to be sure it's installed correctly at your end. You'd be surprised how many users swear blind they installed the files correctly through the years, only for it to turn out they were mistaken
DCU1996
11 years ago
3 years ago
117
There is a known issue, discussed earlier on this page, where users who applied this fix correctly still had the Brazilian names appearing incorrectly. In past versions of the game, this was not possible for technical reasons and was 100% always linked to a file installation error by the user. However, it looks like there may be an issue with this particular problem affecting save games too, although I must say I have not experienced it. Once the game is out, I will be able to make some tests at my end, but for now it is simply not possible to confirm or deny this.

In the meantime, can I have screenshots of your 1700, 1701 and 1710 dbc/permanent folders? I just want to be sure it's installed correctly at your end. You'd be surprised how many users swear blind they installed the files correctly through the years, only for it to turn out they were mistaken

Sure

https://i.gyazo.com/93258b75b93bea0bbaeaf179df8772c8.png
https://i.gyazo.com/240a9087c38f5f1060b5469766c87131.png
https://i.gyazo.com/278ca7ca3313844b636bfd25a5035f9a.png
Bradley Smith
9 years ago
3 years ago
6
Inter being displayed as INTER, is there a way to change that?

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