terriersmad
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Both cards overturned.

Surprised about the Shelvey one as he does kick him - although Lansbury does first so maybe that had something to do with it. Shame we can't have the retrospective goal, penalty and goal scratched off too mind.

Dunno why Forest fans are so angry the cards got overturned - we play them again in more than 3 games time so it wouldn't have effected them anyway, and we can potentially take points off their relegation rivals.

I'm staggered the Shelvey one has been overturned. He kicked him. Doesn't matter what went before. Should have been an extra ban for a frivolous appeal. You compare that to the overwhelming majority of appeals that aren't overturned (even when there's a letter from players who were 'fouled' pointing out they weren't fouled) and it just goes to show the FA discipline committee ain't worth the train fares to get them there.
Poe
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I was thinking that too, I wondered why we'd bothered appealing. We've got plenty of centre midfielders that can perform at a high standard so why waste our time?

It's wrong but it might be a way of the FA apologising for the monumental fuck up that was Friday night by one of their referees.
Poe
17 years ago
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Referee dropped this weekened too.

Poe, have you been to many away games this season?


None - gave my season ticket up last year because of working Saturday's so no more loyalty points
Within 6 months of that I got a new job 9-5 Monday-Friday ffs.

Going to Wigan next Wednesday though.
terriersmad
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I was thinking that too, I wondered why we'd bothered appealing. We've got plenty of centre midfielders that can perform at a high standard so why waste our time?

It's wrong but it might be a way of the FA apologising for the monumental fuck up that was Friday night by one of their referees.

Only because it was televised, I'd guess. Normally they don't bother, they take the £500 or whatever it is these days and say sling your hook. Telly forces them to own up when their officials cock up. Seen this in action with Town a few years back - identical tackles, identical red cards, one overturned after an appeal (televised game), one appeal dismissed because they could brush it under the carpet a bit. I'd be interested to see how often Premier League appeals succeed when compared to those in the Football League.
BR.
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None - gave my season ticket up last year because of working Saturday's so no more loyalty points
Within 6 months of that I got a new job 9-5 Monday-Friday ffs.

Going to Wigan next Wednesday though.


Wigan's a decent away game to go to, you'll have the full stand I imagine and you should win.

I'm going to Preston tomorrow, kick off 5.30 if anybody fancies watching that instead of Leicester v City.....
Shola
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Excellent performance today - best of the season by a mile - a change of tactics and on the front foot

Isaac Hayden looked like a proper footballer today, Diame with one of the most amazing first half's, Shelvey showing his genuine class, and Gayle just standing a yard out putting the ball in.

The Forest game has really got me up for this season.
Number 1
16 years ago
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Well... after last week's miserable antics, this was much needed.

Onwards and upwards. Hopefully by brushing off the bizarre Wigan jinx on Wednesday.
terriersmad
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There's something about beating a set of dirty bastards, who spend the afternoon being aided by the malign influence of the referee, thanks to a dose of beautiful, magnificent karma.

Yet another referee belligerent to Town ensured Bristol didn't have the two men marching they should have. The first-half lunge on Van La Parra was a leg-breaker and Freeman could count himself fortunate not to be walking for that on its own. His later temper tantrum should have seen a second booking, and yet again I'm asking where the hell that dissent ruling has gone. Abraham should also have been in the book for a show of dissent featuring the throwing of arms and the beating of the ground after he was ruled to have had a dangerously high foot on Hefele - one of those where he was always (probably harshly) going to get pulled up for having his studs showing.

A couple of first-half penalty appeals also went against us, one for handball the other for what looked like a push on Wells, and Bristol undeservedly equalised from a set-piece which was borderline offside (very borderline - pausing a replay suggests that Wilbraham had strayed about a foot off when the second ball came in, but it's one a linesman really can't win with).

The big talking point which really isn't a talking point because it was so blatant came when their keeper decided to come charging out of his box and pushed the ball away from Wells, who was in on goal. There were no covering defenders, Wells's next touch was almost certain to be a shot on target from the middle of the goal without a goalkeeper and without pressure from a defender, and it was a very deliberate attempt to stop Wells from scoring. You'll have seen the replay. I'm not exaggerating when I say it's as clear cut a red card for denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity with a deliberate handball as you're likely to see all season. Why the ref and linesman felt the need to consult is beyond me. How they came to the conclusion it was only a yellow card is unfathomable. Mr Stroud is supposedly a Premier League official, and I suspect after the game he had yesterday he won't be officiating for some time.

However, the football gods chose to intervene, when Fielding cocked up a simple backpass with a first touch a Sunday league player would have been ashamed of letting Wells score the winner from 6 yards. Which was highly satisfying.

Lee Johnson is as much of an obnoxious poisonous cock as a manager as he was as a player. The incident that underpins this was when Town put the ball out of play for two players to receive treatment. Firstly he kicked the ball straight back at Löwe, who had tapped the ball into the technical area, resulting in a flare-up between Löwe and Johnson. You see Mourinho being sent off for kicking a water bottle - surely launching a ball at point blank range back to an opposition player warrants a sending off? In the same incident, his side also failed to return the ball to Town while we were down to 9, instead choosing to launch their own attack. I absolutely loathe tactics like that. I think they're unworthy, I think they're the worst kind of unsporting conduct and they have no place the the game. Earlier in the game, he'd been running onto the pitch during play and been spoken to by the ref. Genuinely unpleasant, odious little man whose team got what they deserved. And I've just seen them again for the first time - a Bristol player actually points for us to knock the ball out! To then not give it back just isn't on.
Number 1
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Birmingham have sacked their manager, and judging by the PR, for no real reason: http://www.bcfc.com/news/article/2016-17/birmingham-city-gary-rowett-panos-pavlakis-3468386.aspx?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=SocialSignIn&utm_source=Twitter

They're outside the play-offs on goal difference for fuck's sake.
Carroll.
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Was at the Newcastle game the weekend (mate's birthday, so went over for the game and weekend up in Newcastle). Blues were shocking, so many basic mistakes, none of the Newcastle goals were brilliant, just people standing still and not tracking their marker.

Shocking decision to sack Rowett.
Grimnir
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They won last night against Ipswich though. Not spent much money whilst he was there and done well with the team at his disposal. If I was him I'd be spitting feathers. I'd say get him over to Portman Road to replace Mick McCarthy (as much as I love him, he is just treading water)!
Shola
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Was at the Newcastle game the weekend (mate's birthday, so went over for the game and weekend up in Newcastle). Blues were shocking, so many basic mistakes, none of the Newcastle goals were brilliant, just people standing still and not tracking their marker.

Shocking decision to sack Rowett.


That was by far the best Newcastle have played all season. - Birmingham were ropey at the back - but no worse than a lot of the 'better' sides of this division.

Thought the fans were cunty though - Sarcastic cheering like it's Steve Kean era Blackburn or something
Number 1
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Apparently Gianfranco Zola has been in talks and could be confirmed before they play Brighton on Saturday.

Given his record at West Ham and Watford, I'm not sure that's an improvement. But hey, who knows.
terriersmad
16 years ago
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Birmingham have sacked their manager, and judging by the PR, for no real reason: http://www.bcfc.com/news/article/2016-17/birmingham-city-gary-rowett-panos-pavlakis-3468386.aspx?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=SocialSignIn&utm_source=Twitter

They're outside the play-offs on goal difference for fuck's sake.

Zola going in there apparently. I expect they'll resemble a brick descending through water for a little while.

Top win last night. Scrappy 1-0. Fantastic saving tackle from Martin Cranie to keep it goalless then Nahki pops up with the winner.

And thoroughly bizzare-looking goings on at Hillsborough. I've not seen the full incident without dodgy camera cuts, so apologies for possibly giving a slightly distorted view and I'm sure a Sheffield Wednesday fan will help me out, but after a meaty-looking challenge the ref brandished a red card to Sam Hutchinson of Sheffield Wednesday. Only, Adam Hammill (Barnsley) was given his marching orders and it was Barnsley who ended with 10. I've not seen anything to suggest he was shown a red card, while Hutchinson stayed on. I mean... Eh?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzqGDr1XEAE8Nvs.jpg:large
Number 1
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Job done, really. Not a barnstormer of a game, but enough to keep out toothless opponents, and 2 decent finishes too. Plus nine points clear of Reading in 3rd.
terriersmad
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We never win at Norwich. We never win on Sky. We never get any luck.

So a 2-1 win at Norwich live on Sky with the first goal being marginally offside (his foot was offside, for what it's worth) somehow feels like we've fractured the fabric of the universe. In truth, we richly deserved the win against a poor Norwich side who offered little other than their second-half pressure which only really resulted in half-chances. Our first-half display was outstanding and we should have had more (normal refrain). Our second half display was gritty and determined and made sure we ground out our first win at Norwich since the Second Division championship season of 1969/70.
BR.
17 years ago
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We are absolute bobbins and Coyle couldn't set a team up to defend to save his life, how on earth did we win at Newcastle?
Shedender
17 years ago
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We are absolute bobbins and Coyle couldn't set a team up to defend to save his life, how on earth did we win at Newcastle?

Because somehow we were so much more shitter than Blackburn?

So we will be top at Christmas after a hard fought 2-1 win away to Burton as both Gayle and Diame scored, it's only a point clear of Brighton who annoyingly picked up a late win at Birmingham City.
Number 1
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Burton seemed to be the banana skin game I thought we'd lose, like Stevenage in the FA Cup a few years ago. Certainly I figured it would be a tricky test of Newcastle, so at least 3 points were collected from that. Shame about Brighton and Reading getting injury time wins but heyho.
gfnx25
12 years ago
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little update: we are sheeeeet
Grimnir
16 years ago
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little update: we are sheeeeet


Saw that Vaughan scored early on and thought it might be your lucky day, guess not!
Eric Portapotty
14 years ago
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terriersmad on suicide watch
terriersmad
16 years ago
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Wolfsburg dismiss speculation. Good enough for me.

On one hand, it's worrying when your manager gets linked to another club. But on the other hand, it's also hugely complimentary to the job he's done in taking us from relegation dogfighters to Premier League hopefuls. If he's getting linked, he's doing something right for us.

Update: Turns out Wolfsburg did make contact with Wagner yesterday with an offer to be their head coach. He turned it down. He rejected Wolfsburg, a side in last season's Champions League, to stay at Huddersfield Town. Hence why Wolfsburg were dismissing the speculation
Shola
15 years ago
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From the Newcastle Evening Chronicle

There is something rank rotten about this affair: We do not know either the name of his accuser or what it is that Shelvey is alleged to have said, and it seems that Wolverhampton Wanderers will stoop to any level to try and derail Newcastle's promotion push.

The irony is that whatever Shelvey did or did not say, the fact is that he'd have been better off jumping in on the bloke with both feet and smashing his ankle. It is amazing how the FA has done sweet FA for decades about paedophile rings in football, yet something supposedly said, if indeed it was said, in the heat of the moment attracts a 5 match ban. The entire episode stinks to high heavens and reeks of hypocrisy.


This 100%

BR.
17 years ago
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Not saying it's not the case, but why would Wolves be bothered about trying to derail Newcastle's promotion push? They're 18th, and you're gonna go up anyway, no matter what.
Number 1
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Shelvey will not appeal so will sit out the games against Sheffield Wednesday, Forest, Blackburn and Brentford, along with the FA Cup tie at Birmingham City.

The lack of submitted audio/video makes it a very tricky case to judge and I suppose its not to know what's been said as evidence either which way - there's a claim, for instance, the Wolves players said conflicting evidence. But I guess now the judgement is there and the punishment has been accepted, its up to RB to find alternative options for those games. Which may also have to be an incoming given Diame is going ACON soon (not sure when that is). Its not ideal any which way in any case.
Shola
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Not saying it's not the case, but why would Wolves be bothered about trying to derail Newcastle's promotion push? They're 18th, and you're gonna go up anyway, no matter what.


All Championship clubs and the FA live to hinder the Rafalution. As they are haters.
terriersmad
16 years ago
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All Championship clubs and the FA live to hinder the Rafalution. As they are haters.

I'm the paranoid one around here, sod off back to the Premier League
Number 1
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I had a read of the evidence and testimonials from the Newcastle and Wolves players called before the FA for the Shelvey hearing, and all I feel I learned is that on a pitch, footballers seem to spend a fair amount of games being pricks towards one another.

By probability, Shelvey probably did say something rude - if not quite the original Twitter rumour of "couscous nonce". Not that I envy those who had to make the judgement, given that on both sides there were a lot of evidence consistency issues.
terriersmad
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A win is a win. Not at our best, but worth noting just how crap Forest were. They had one shot of note in the whole game and scored - and that was in no small part down to a very lucky deflection straight into the path of their striker. One of those we could have done better with but you can't really plan for.

We were guilty of not taking chances, but the second half performance was excellent. Kasey Palmer levelled it up (no, it wasn't an own goal, the ball was over the line before the keeper touched it), and Michael Mancienne managed a thrilling moment of madness when he stuck the winner into his own net. No idea what he was meant to be doing, but it wasn't that. He then managed to compound a miserable day by a fit of petulance when already on a booking, throwing the ball away in a show of dissent when a throw in went against him. Dissent being left unpunished drives me mad - it wasn't left unpunished, and down the tunnel he went. Cheerio, mate, and thanks for the points!

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