BR.
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Mental game.

Great for the neutral - but you can see why both sides will be battling for top 4 rather than being any higher.
chokosc
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We were terrible...
Eric Portapotty
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Oh boy, Terriersmad will have a wall of text here soon.
terriersmad
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Austin should be off. Simple. A pre-meditated, cowardly, scummy attack on our goalkeeper leaving him down injured. Knew what he was doing. Kick straight to the face, looks like it's broken Lössl's nose.

Disgraceful. That's not a ban. That's a fucking prison sentence.
Eric Portapotty
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Austin should be off. Simple. A pre-meditated, cowardly, scummy attack on our goalkeeper leaving him down injured. Knew what he was doing. Kick straight to the face, looks like it's broken Lössl's nose.

Disgraceful. That's not a ban. That's a fucking prison sentence.

Have to say that football's in a bubble when it comes to violence, but I doubt anyone's going to step in to ensure justice is served beyond the rules of the games given the amount of money that's on the line.

Fucking weird though how things have come to this - elbows, kicks, eye gouges are all fair game if it's on the pitch.
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While not quite as comfortable as it could've been judging by the internet/Sky, a win for the first time in too fucking long is all good. Very nice as well to see Diame and Saivet do good things after all the half-arsed performances of the former and the latter's virtual anonymity.
King Luis
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What a shit show from United what were they playing at with Smalling, at the very least he should have been moved out of defence. Can't wait to hear Mourinho's excuses
Shola
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While not quite as comfortable as it could've been judging by the internet/Sky, a win for the first time in too fucking long is all good. Very nice as well to see Diame and Saivet do good things after all the half-arsed performances of the former and the latter's virtual anonymity.


It's a Christmas Miracle. No Shelvey and Hayden, and Newcastle look a team transformed. (Also more solid without Lejeune)

Rafa will be fuming thought - with Elliott saving a penalty. - and I wonder how injured Mitrovic, Lejeune, Merino and Hayden actually are?
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Tbf I thought Saivet didn't get a great deal of chances in his half-season after arriving - think he only made two starts, one of which was a game at Everton where everyone was terrible. Although even then I'd imagine it would've been Merino and Hayden if they were available. Didn't even notice Lejeune was out of the squad altogether, but then I only found out the team news after kick off... fair one on Mitrovic.

Dunno if it'll lead to a pick up, mind, given that Manchester City is the next game. Still, there's always hope that we'll succeed where everyone has failed... well that or just pure delusion.
Austin should be off. Simple. A pre-meditated, cowardly, scummy attack on our goalkeeper leaving him down injured. Knew what he was doing. Kick straight to the face, looks like it's broken Lössl's nose.

Disgraceful. That's not a ban. That's a fucking prison sentence.

Is it karma that Austin duly got a hamstring injury and seems to be out for longer than a ban would've been for, or is it still the case he still should've gone? He was lucky not to go for that incident.
Shola
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Saivet was apparently banished to the reserves by Rafa for two years....

And yeah I'm a bit skeptical about the injuries - looked to me that Benitez is stunting to try and 'prove a point'
terriersmad
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Saying lucky not to go is an understatement. That he argued 3 matches was excessive is mind-blowing, though. Whilst there was less force than in the Tyrone Mings stamp last season, there was certainly more intent to cause harm and for that reason alone I'd argue the same length of ban. Violence in football is in a bubble, mind. A couple of years ago I recall a lad getting jailed for a punch on an opponent and quite rightly. Perhaps someone needs an example making of them just to remind others that, actually, they need to stay in line and behave themselves. Because we can't have players running around kicking others in the head while they're on the floor - it's an act of absolute cowardice. That's twice this season our keeper has been kicked deliberately in the head and thankfully this time the FA has been able to take action, but I've noticed a really nasty streak in this division that I've not seen in any others.
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Cracking game. Should have won. Missed so many chances. My main thoughts are that goalline technology works brilliantly, Stoke will be fine, we need to take chances (particularly when 6 yards out, Mr Mounié, and Mark Hughes is a know-nothing Welsh twat.

Hey ho. On we go.
BR.
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I see poor old Mr Mourinho says he wants more money to spend......

King Luis
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Love seeing United now trying to play the underdog card when they've got one of the most expensive squads ever assembled, jog on.
chokosc
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Mourinho is so fucking lame. Totally lost it.
Number 1
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Saivet was apparently banished to the reserves by Rafa for two years....

And yeah I'm a bit skeptical about the injuries - looked to me that Benitez is stunting to try and 'prove a point'

I thought he'd already been put in the reserves before Benitez rocked up, then wanted to go back to France after the demotion as Thauvin and Cabella did, but only came back last summer because nobody wanted him. Its still a pleasing way to find the option is there. Whether or not he'll still be about when Hayden, Merino and Shelvey return... who knows.

I'm willing to guess some are exaggerated a bit, but not all. Some may be for fitness - there's a stupid quantity of games in December '17, for one - but I'd guess, for instance, you've got the isolated case of Mitrovic for something's being potentially exaggerated, given his red card run rate means he's not being trusted. But then I doubt in the long run it really achieves much - we don't really have a great squad anyway, so starving it further seems counterproductive.
Saying lucky not to go is an understatement. That he argued 3 matches was excessive is mind-blowing, though. Whilst there was less force than in the Tyrone Mings stamp last season, there was certainly more intent to cause harm and for that reason alone I'd argue the same length of ban. Violence in football is in a bubble, mind. A couple of years ago I recall a lad getting jailed for a punch on an opponent and quite rightly. Perhaps someone needs an example making of them just to remind others that, actually, they need to stay in line and behave themselves. Because we can't have players running around kicking others in the head while they're on the floor - it's an act of absolute cowardice. That's twice this season our keeper has been kicked deliberately in the head and thankfully this time the FA has been able to take action, but I've noticed a really nasty streak in this division that I've not seen in any others.

The incident with Simon Francis getting a yellow for kicking Kouyate in the face during the Bournemouth-West Ham game certainly looks like another to the group of these incidents in recent weeks. That looked a red (Kilbane's verdict of just a yellow.... no) but it seems absurd to just charge in like that given the risk associated it with it. Josh King reacting to a misplaced pass by raising an arm and accidentally punching Obiang in the face was almost comic, but I guess a different ref could be inclined to produce that card.

That game as a whole looked demented, mind. Not to mention coming with farcical refereeing... how the fuck that late Wilson goal stood is mystifying given he was offside and it went in off his arm.
terriersmad
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I thought he'd already been put in the reserves before Benitez rocked up, then wanted to go back to France after the demotion as Thauvin and Cabella did, but only came back last summer because nobody wanted him. Its still a pleasing way to find the option is there. Whether or not he'll still be about when Hayden, Merino and Shelvey return... who knows.

I'm willing to guess some are exaggerated a bit, but not all. Some may be for fitness - there's a stupid quantity of games in December '17, for one - but I'd guess, for instance, you've got the isolated case of Mitrovic for something's being potentially exaggerated, given his red card run rate means he's not being trusted. But then I doubt in the long run it really achieves much - we don't really have a great squad anyway, so starving it further seems counterproductive.

The incident with Simon Francis getting a yellow for kicking Kouyate in the face during the Bournemouth-West Ham game certainly looks like another to the group of these incidents in recent weeks. That looked a red (Kilbane's verdict of just a yellow.... no) but it seems absurd to just charge in like that given the risk associated it with it. Josh King reacting to a misplaced pass by raising an arm and accidentally punching Obiang in the face was almost comic, but I guess a different ref could be inclined to produce that card.

That game as a whole looked demented, mind. Not to mention coming with farcical refereeing... how the fuck that late Wilson goal stood is mystifying given he was offside and it went in off his arm.

I genuinely think the standard of refereeing is lower than it's ever been. I can count on one hand the number of times I've felt the officials haven't influenced the outcome of a match this season. Mr Atwell, for all his detractors, has been the best I've seen this season, v Southampton and v Brighton - very good both times. Can't really complain too much at the chap we had v Manchester United either, who got all the big calls right. Other than that, though, they've been woeful. I know I'm a broken record when it comes to officiating, but it's got so much worse the higher we've gone. Last season was largely dreadful and this year is topping it. It doesn't help that top clubs seem to operate by a different rule book to everyone else. Alli gets away with murder every other week. Niasse finds himself banned for diving, yet Alli survives to play another day. Tarkowski is banned for a petulant elbow, yet Lukaku is allowed to carry on despite kicking an opponent in the testicles. It's a completely different standard that's applied by referees and officials.

Agreed on all counts for the Bournemouth game. They seem to get quite a few dodgy decisions in their favour - two goals against us, blatant penalty not given v Stoke, yesterday's farcical decisions in their favour. I've never been someone who says they'll even out (never seen evidence of it) but if it's true they're in for a nightmarish second half of the campaign - they're probably plus about 6 points from officials, take those away and they're in serious bother. Wilson's interview also annoyed me - just own up and say you got lucky.

Not sure how Mr Taylor made a mess of yesterday yet. Allen's challenge on Mooy is a blatant penalty, no matter what rubbish Danny Murphy comes out with (couldn't believe what I was hearing on Match of the Day - they're making it up as they go along. He said Alli's dive at Burnley was a penalty the other day when it absolutely wasn't). Schindler's challenge on Diouf is also a penalty if we're being honest. Diouf was booked for having a ball cleared straight at his outstretched hand from about a yard away. Zanka was booked for an inch-perfect challenge. Zouma was booked for slipping, and then Smith had to go off in the same incident after receiving treatment because Taylor forgot the rules. He was hopeless, and had there been any malice in the game he'd have lost control. As it was both sides played in a good spirit and how 6 bookings came out of it I really haven't a clue.
Shola
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I thought he'd already been put in the reserves before Benitez rocked up, then wanted to go back to France after the demotion as Thauvin and Cabella did, but only came back last summer because nobody wanted him. Its still a pleasing way to find the option is there. Whether or not he'll still be about when Hayden, Merino and Shelvey return... who knows.


Saivet was apparently sent straight to the reserves - as was Doumbia.

Ah Thauvin. - Benitez sold a guy who's probably worth £50m for less than he bought Matt Ritchie or Jacob Murphy.
Number 1
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Missed the game but not entirely sure what to expect from such a scoreline or playing 5-4-1. Even if better teams with more belief that they could beat Man City have lost by bigger scorelines. Guess we'll also not know what would've happened if, by some bizarre case, the Shelvey kick-off wallop had gone straight in.

Wonder if anyone might actually have a go at City from the off in an upcoming game.
Saivet was apparently sent straight to the reserves - as was Doumbia.

Ah Thauvin. - Benitez sold a guy who's probably worth £50m for less than he bought Matt Ritchie or Jacob Murphy.

Tbf it looks that like the case with Payet and West Ham, Thauvin didn't want to leave Marseille in the first place and McClaren had already removed him once. Even if it wasn't all done before his re-loaning/permanent sale. Typical he's then turned into an elite level player... the 21st Century Jon Dahl Tomasson syndrome. Meh.

Did Doumbia do anything for us? Quite something that for the key game against Bournemouth that ended the McClaren era, Riviere got the nod instead.
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Watford can absolutely fuck off. Twice they've fucked my bet by collapsing in the last few minutes.

Also serves Schmeichel right that they ran out of time to try equalise. Cunt was time wasting all game, amazing how the ref did not book him
BR.
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The Newcastle-Brighton game sounded horrific, according to the reporter who was there for 5 Live.

Utd 0-0 Southampton FT. Chelsea 2nd now.
King Luis
18 years ago
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United are a joke

Cant wait for Mourinho's excuses
Based Jorge
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Mourinho is finished as an elite manager, who knew? Sacked at the end of the season.
King Luis
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And now for his interview, blaming the ref. Was never a pen.

Not even making it to his 3rd season at this rate.

The best thing about the Yoshida handball is, it actually helps Lingard if he'd have carried on playing he'd have had a shot at goal because the touch brings it down
Shola
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The Newcastle-Brighton game sounded horrific, according to the reporter who was there for 5 Live.

Utd 0-0 Southampton FT. Chelsea 2nd now.


Yeah - genuinely amazed Benitez got stick for midweek - for almost scraping a point against Man City - but never gets criticised for complete non-performances like today. I think Darlow, Dummett, Lascelles, Joselu and Hayden are the only ones who put in acceptable performances. Yedlin has also regressed to one of the worst full backs in the league.

Good to see Knockeart is still shit though.
terriersmad
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Got lucky yesterday. Well below par and Burnley should have had a penalty - the only reason I can think for him not giving it was that he perceived that Hendrick had dragged his leg to induce contact. I'd probably have given it. I'll certainly take a bit of fortune after the rubbish luck we had in the first half of the season. I'll certainly take a point when below par against a very good side.
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It genuinely sounds as though neither manager was that interested in winning the match. But it also puzzling that we're happy to give it a go away for some parts, but then play very inhibited in games at St. James' Park. Hopefully this may add up to Stoke being seen off on NYD, but they'll be presumably more up for it after their spanking by Chelsea.

The only real plus from yesterday was that it wasn't another defeat, and even that feels like its not enough given the late winners for Swansea and Bournemouth.
BR.
18 years ago
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Last minute missed penalty for Palace v City earlier! Haven't seen it but it sounded very soft and then a poor penalty.

King Luis
18 years ago
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Are Arsenal fans dreading this transfer window now after the Jesus injury? Seems a cert that City will go after Sanchez now
VP.
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Are Arsenal fans dreading this transfer window now after the Jesus injury? Seems a cert that City will go after Sanchez now


If he's not signing for us then the sooner he goes the better really.

Another great performance by Mike Dean today, how that prick continues to ref at any level is beyond me.

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