Formula One - 2013

The Malaysia race this year was awful. I don't recall a podium like that in Malaysia in my short life.

And Vettel will not win it this year. He will be a close contender, along with Alonso, but the winner'll be in black & gold.

The Malaysia race this year was awful. I don't recall a podium like that in Malaysia in my short life.

Really though, what the fuck are you talking about?

I dont get the hate Vettel has been receiving personally, you have people who feel sorry for Rosberg for following team orders then you have the same people who hate Vettel because he went against them and actually tried to win the race. The problem isn't Vettel imo, the problem is the dumb rules that allow team orders.

It's quite clear why everyone is having a go at Vettell so dont go on some high horse just because he's German. They had the first two positions and racing for it was absolutely stupid as it could have caused a crash and lost them all the points. It's not even like is late on in the season where he needs the points.

Not really, it's all relevant, it's like saying a title comes down to one game in football, it's won over the whole season, same with F1, its not won or lost over one race.

Not really, it's all relevant, it's like saying a title comes down to one game in football, it's won over the whole season, same with F1, its not won or lost over one race.

But... that's completely contradictory. You can't say "it's all relevant" and then say each individual race doesn't matter. Since Schumacher retired the first time, 5 of the 6 drivers championships are settled by under ten points, 4 of those were by under five and 2 of those were by one point. It's entirely possible that Vettel not following team orders will win him the season and it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. What's even more ridiculous is that Red Bull must know that but still decided to issue the orders in the first place but there you go.

Oh, by the way, noone mentioned anything about people hating on Vettel for him being German so I have no idea where that came from. Presumably the same place most of the stuff you say comes from, ie out of your arse.

By it's all relevant I clearly meant that if he didn't win here and was in running for the title, they'd let him win somewhere else, it was a very stupid thing from him to do. You say it all comes down to under 10 points, but you can't really say this win could be decided as at different circumstances theres different outcomes due to pressure and what not, so if he had not won here he might have won another race further on in the season in which he could now get second instead (I probably sound really confusing)

No need to throw a little bitch fest over it.

if Vettel now wins the Championship, everyone will point to this win as a key reason to him doing so.

Valid point, on the flip side, however if Vettel now wins the Championship, everyone will point to this win as a key reason to him doing so.

See this is where I dissagree, as I said, if he didn't win here he might have "tried a little more to win" in another race where he might get second or third this season.

I don't get it at all. What's the big deal? Vettel was driving faster so why shouldn't he have won? Why did Red Bull want Webber to come first?

The start of the GP2 race in Monaco: