Formula One - 2013 - Real World Football - FM24/25 Update

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29 Mar 2013 13:35:52

So the seasons started, i remember we had one for F1 last season, what a season last season was, lets hope this is a close one. Mercedes look like they'll really challenge in the next 1-2 years, and Lotus are looking pretty strong, too.

Vettle to win it again, though, I'd love Alonso to snatch it in the last race!

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29 Mar 2013 15:15:17

The Malaysia race this year was awful. I don't recall a podium like that in Malaysia in my short life.

And Vettel will not win it this year. He will be a close contender, along with Alonso, but the winner'll be in black & gold.

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29 Mar 2013 17:42:26

By Torri | Permalink | On 29 March 2013 - 15:15 PM

The Malaysia race this year was awful. I don't recall a podium like that in Malaysia in my short life.

And Vettel will not win it this year. He will be a close contender, along with Alonso, but the winner'll be in black & gold.

Lotus aren't strong enough, not this year anyway, Grosjean will cost them a few points, i'm sure of that. So realistically Raikkonen is the only one out of Lotus that could win, though i'd love him to, i just can't see it.

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29 Mar 2013 18:08:03

By Torri | Permalink | On 29 March 2013 - 15:15 PM

The Malaysia race this year was awful. I don't recall a podium like that in Malaysia in my short life.

Really though, what the fuck are you talking about?

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29 Mar 2013 18:21:21

By Phoenix Arrow | Permalink | On 29 March 2013 - 19:08 PM

Really though, what the fuck are you talking about?

What the fuck am I talking about? The Vettel - Webber and Rosberg - Hamilton "fights"

And that I have not seen a podium like this was supposed to mean the way they "celebrated".

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29 Mar 2013 18:38:32

So in your opinion racing makes a bad F1 race? I don't understand.

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29 Mar 2013 19:02:24

I assume she's on about the lack of racing after the last round of pitstops (bar Vettel ignoring orders).

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30 Mar 2013 11:03:30

I dont get the hate Vettel has been receiving personally, you have people who feel sorry for Rosberg for following team orders then you have the same people who hate Vettel because he went against them and actually tried to win the race. The problem isn't Vettel imo, the problem is the dumb rules that allow team orders.

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By King Luis | Permalink | On 30 March 2013 - 11:03 AM

I dont get the hate Vettel has been receiving personally, you have people who feel sorry for Rosberg for following team orders then you have the same people who hate Vettel because he went against them and actually tried to win the race. The problem isn't Vettel imo, the problem is the dumb rules that allow team orders.

This.
F1 Legends like Senna (mostly regarded as the "best F1 driver of all time" ) , Prost or Schumacher wouldve laughed off those "team orders" because they were in F1 to win and not to follow some muppets orders delegating them behind the No2 driver who is clearly slower than them.
All of them big egos and so is Vettel. If LH would be more like this then he couldve been World Champion 4 times + now.
F1 is not a team sport, its about a driver trying to win the race and not team orders.
However if it really has come so far (F1 being a "team sport"

, its F1 RIP for me.
Why should I watch F1 if the outcome is decided by F1 bosses anyway?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvSgJDIsRnc

(Senna intentionally crashing into Prost to win the title)

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30 Mar 2013 19:53:15

It's quite clear why everyone is having a go at Vettell so dont go on some high horse just because he's German. They had the first two positions and racing for it was absolutely stupid as it could have caused a crash and lost them all the points. It's not even like is late on in the season where he needs the points.

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30 Mar 2013 21:15:32

I agree, but last years title was won by two points iirc, so those 7 he won in Malaysia would've changed the outcome if it happened last season.

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30 Mar 2013 21:35:30

Not really, it's all relevant, it's like saying a title comes down to one game in football, it's won over the whole season, same with F1, its not won or lost over one race.

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31 Mar 2013 01:33:40

By Carroll. | Permalink | On 30 March 2013 - 19:53 PM

It's quite clear why everyone is having a go at Vettell so dont go on some high horse just because he's German. They had the first two positions and racing for it was absolutely stupid as it could have caused a crash and lost them all the points. It's not even like is late on in the season where he needs the points.

I dont quite get what all this got to do with being german? id say the same about Alonso or Lewis if the situation had been the same.
Besides that, if they crashed, they crashed. the team is never bigger than the driver (at least that was the case when F1 was about the drivers ability and not about the team points-Do you really think Senna ever cared about the team points?).

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By Carroll. | Permalink | On 30 March 2013 - 21:35 PM

Not really, it's all relevant, it's like saying a title comes down to one game in football, it's won over the whole season, same with F1, its not won or lost over one race.

No but one race has quite a bigger significance effect on what the outcome of the season could be, than one football match.

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By Carroll. | Permalink | On 30 March 2013 - 21:35 PM

Not really, it's all relevant, it's like saying a title comes down to one game in football, it's won over the whole season, same with F1, its not won or lost over one race.

But... that's completely contradictory. You can't say "it's all relevant" and then say each individual race doesn't matter. Since Schumacher retired the first time, 5 of the 6 drivers championships are settled by under ten points, 4 of those were by under five and 2 of those were by one point. It's entirely possible that Vettel not following team orders will win him the season and it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. What's even more ridiculous is that Red Bull must know that but still decided to issue the orders in the first place but there you go.

Oh, by the way, noone mentioned anything about people hating on Vettel for him being German so I have no idea where that came from. Presumably the same place most of the stuff you say comes from, ie out of your arse.

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01 Apr 2013 19:01:25

The way i see F1, Teams don't and couldn't give a toss about who wins the Drivers Championship, obviously, they'll be happy if its one of their own drivers, but ultimately all the team want is to win the Constructors, and either way with the team orders that was sent, they would've still got 43 points without Vettel winning, now if they wanted Vettel to win you'd think they'd have told him to pass and no stupid moves afterwards.

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01 Apr 2013 19:29:27

They make more money by winning the constructors than by winning the drivers, but do still get a bunch of money from winning the drivers.

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By Phoenix Arrow | Permalink | On 01 April 2013 - 15:13 PM

But... that's completely contradictory. You can't say "it's all relevant" and then say each individual race doesn't matter. Since Schumacher retired the first time, 5 of the 6 drivers championships are settled by under ten points, 4 of those were by under five and 2 of those were by one point. It's entirely possible that Vettel not following team orders will win him the season and it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. What's even more ridiculous is that Red Bull must know that but still decided to issue the orders in the first place but there you go.

Oh, by the way, noone mentioned anything about people hating on Vettel for him being German so I have no idea where that came from. Presumably the same place most of the stuff you say comes from, ie out of your arse.

By it's all relevant I clearly meant that if he didn't win here and was in running for the title, they'd let him win somewhere else, it was a very stupid thing from him to do. You say it all comes down to under 10 points, but you can't really say this win could be decided as at different circumstances theres different outcomes due to pressure and what not, so if he had not won here he might have won another race further on in the season in which he could now get second instead (I probably sound really confusing)

No need to throw a little bitch fest over it.

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02 Apr 2013 00:08:47

By Carroll. | Permalink | On 02 April 2013 - 01:02 AM

By it's all relevant I clearly meant that if he didn't win here and was in running for the title, they'd let him win somewhere else, it was a very stupid thing from him to do. You say it all comes down to under 10 points, but you can't really say this win could be decided as at different circumstances theres different outcomes due to pressure and what not, so if he had not won here he might have won another race further on in the season in which he could now get second instead (I probably sound really confusing)

No need to throw a little bitch fest over it.

Valid point, on the flip side, however if Vettel now wins the Championship, everyone will point to this win as a key reason to him doing so.

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By Jay. | Permalink | On 02 April 2013 - 01:08 AM

if Vettel now wins the Championship, everyone will point to this win as a key reason to him doing so.

Exactly.

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02 Apr 2013 11:28:58

By Jay. | Permalink | On 02 April 2013 - 01:08 AM

Valid point, on the flip side, however if Vettel now wins the Championship, everyone will point to this win as a key reason to him doing so.

See this is where I dissagree, as I said, if he didn't win here he might have "tried a little more to win" in another race where he might get second or third this season.

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02 Apr 2013 11:39:36

By Carroll. | Permalink | On 02 April 2013 - 12:28 PM

See this is where I dissagree, as I said, if he didn't win here he might have "tried a little more to win" in another race where he might get second or third this season.

I think it's been established that Vettel will always go the extra mile to try to win. Your point is idiotic

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02 Apr 2013 12:34:16

I don't get it at all. What's the big deal? Vettel was driving faster so why shouldn't he have won? Why did Red Bull want Webber to come first?

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By Sears | Permalink | On 02 April 2013 - 13:34 PM

I don't get it at all. What's the big deal? Vettel was driving faster so why shouldn't he have won? Why did Red Bull want Webber to come first?

Vettel was faster cos Webber followed team orders to turn his engine mapping down, making him slower as the team wanted a Red Bull 1-2 and not a Red Bull fight-out for the win which could have potentially cost them both cars