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Zog
Okay maybe I worded it wrong, we did have possession but we looked like we had no creativity going forward. It's pointless trying to play Cabaye as a playmaker unless we've got strong attacking players around him like the end of last season, putting him there and then dropping Gouffran seemed nonsensical. Don't know what you're on about the second half for, we were two goals down at that point and we were chasing the game, conceding more can be expected.
And why shouldn't the crowd be against it? Incredibly negative tactics for a home game and Tiote has barely had a good game all season. I really don't know why you're so incessant on blaming the crowd, naturally we're going to be negative based on current performances.
K3V0
This.
Really hope he doesn't leave in the summer.
Deano
Fantastic
It seems terrible down there, and I understand at the time it is. But once you're down in League One, and pending on you having some decent management, you strip away the fat and rebuild correctly. The three years we were down in League One were honestly the most exciting time I've known since we were relegated. The crowd was with the team, the players we had were fighting for us. There's nothing worse than what we have now: just shit.
It certainly did Southampton some good.
Fantastic
God only knows how much Kevin Doyle is getting paid.
bluemoon.
Fantastic
K3V0
I'd say he's on something between £20,000 and £40,000 a week.
EDIT: He's really gone backwards as a player since leaving Reading.
Shola
It's hard to say how negative we set out to be with Newcastle conceding the early goal, but the side wasn't actually that negative. Cabaye was pushed high up and Perch was about in the normal CM position. It wasn't any more negative than when Newcastle went on that great run last year with Jonas, Tiote and Cabaye as a trio. And more attacking than when we went on a good run early last year when we barely conceded any goals.
The main problem at Newcastle at the moment is an inbalanced squad. if we do go with a variation of a 4-3-3 we either need incisive wingers who can score/get in the final third, or CM's to get in the box to support Cisse and at the moment we are doing neither.
We've lost HBA and Demba Ba from the wings since last season. Gouffran and Marveaux are good players and tidy in possession but neither of them are particularly dangerous in the final third, nor is Jonas. And none of our central midfielders are comfortable getting into the box, meaning our main attack is balls in from the wing with Cisse up against four or so defenders in the box.
-I'm annoyed at the crowd because I reckon if they would relax, the performances might actually come and we would be a good 5 or 6 points better off.
- Booing someone after their first bad cross/shot/through ball is counter-productive, when it normally leads to players then being reluctant to put in another cross/shot/through ball.
What team would you select vs West Ham next weekend?
------------------------Cisse
Marveaux-Cabaye-Perch-Jonas-Gouffran
Or could return to a 4-4-2 with Perch and Cabaye deep.
----------Cisse-Gouffran
Jonas-Cabaye-Perch-Obertan
Telegram Sam
What's actually going on at a Leeds? I thought everything would be rosy after the takeover.
Number 1
For next week, keep Tiote and Jonas out of the starting 11. An ideal option is having a go at last season's blueprint with Perch as the DM, Anita or Sissoko as box-to-box and Cabs as playmaker, while Gouffran and Marveaux/HBA (depending on fitness) flank Papiss. But if not that, modify the players to fit into the 4-2-3-1. This would have Perch-Sissoko as the back players, with Gouffran-Cabaye-Marvs behind Cisse.
But it seems Pardew seems to be going "my way or the high way". I stumbled across an article from 2006/07 shortly after West Ham fired Pardew where Tevez told a newspaper he didn't know how to play his team's foreign players or what system was the best one. Hardly an assuring precedent.
True but Leeds, Southampton, Norwich, etc didn't go straight through the floor to League One. Their decline was more manageable, and all the Premier League high earners had gone, so they had space to rebuild. Wolves have plummeted directly and financially speaking, they're in trouble. Not least given their fanbase seems out for blood.
Zog
Hmm. Really don't see how it was as attacking as we played last season, maybe the formation we played was similar but that's about it. Cabaye might have been played in a similar position but without the likes of Ben Arfa and Ba stretching teams Cabaye has much less space and without those two to feed off he's relied on way too much to provide all our creativity going forward. Gutierrez and Sissoko on the wings are not more attacking players than the other too, surely that's obvious.
Gutierrez when played in the midfield three was nowhere near as conservative as Tiote and Perch either. Even when playing there he still played his natural game breaking forward from midfield and popping up on the left wing, to suggest that he was a sitter just like the other two definitely isn't true. I agree we're unbalanced at the moment but that doesn't mean we should start playing players out of position and playing negative tactics, Marveaux and Gouffran are limited but at least they give us other options going forward, one of them at least should be in the team when we can't pick Ben Arfa.
I think the fans aren't helping, but their only really reflecting what's happening on the pitch. The players have constantly looked nervous playing at home and it's a bit too simple just to blame that on the fans.
Probably something like;
Cisse
Jonas Cabaye Gouffran
Perch Sissoko
Never going to happen though, don't think Sissoko has ever been tried deeper in midfield yet.
Eric Portapotty
Huh, TIL what 'She Said No' was referring to, always thought it was about his wife not wanting him to leave Arsenal or some shit like that.
Fantastic
The takeover was purely a business decision. Leeds have an upside, but the people who have taken us over are a financial house. They've sold off 10% of the club to an investment group and they'll continue to try and attract more investment. Why anyone would want to invest is anyone's guess.
The problem at the moment is that we aren't getting money in for players. Poor decisions have been made over the last few years meaning a real fighting team has been torn apart and we're left with a kind of Coventry four years ago team. We have a few decent players, Byram, Lees, Diouf. But really we need to bring in a grade A striker, some creativity on the wing, a solid centreback. Problem is all this costs money. The summer is round the corner and this is the first real opportunity to see how the club wants to go forward, but after nine years of this shit no one's holding their breath.
In the last few months I've barely paid any attention to Leeds, I haven't even been to Elland Road since November because there's no point. But McDermott's been giving a good impression and there is successful youth team that he'll be looking to integrate so... who knows. We've got a lot of catching up to do, probably too much for anything to happen next season either. Which means another year of boredom.
Number 1
I think Sissoko was played deeper in his first game at Villa but has been played more forward in all games since. It worked a treat against Chelsea but with the exception of the home game against Southampton I don't remember it being anywhere near as successful.
There's long running problems all season for every single aspect of what's been on the pitch. For vast swathes of the campaign our midfield and attack has lacked fluency. But more worrying is the other end, given we have the leakiest defence of any Premier League team - and indeed the leakiest Newcastle defence in all our previous Premier League seasons. Why play all the defensive players to protect the back 4 when they're clearly not doing that?
Given next match involves the roughhousing aerial threats of Carroll and Nolan and they have a very impressive supplier in Jarvis, it could be a long afternoon. Our best chance of 3 points is QPR away, and even then it's questionable. There needs to be a huge change of mentality between now and the end of the season, both from manager and players, or else it's curtains.
Talking of next season, there's rumours Rafa Benitez will be our manager next season if we stay up. Would that work?
Jamieandhisego
Number 1
True and of course we're known for accumulating trophies such as pre-season kick about tournaments in Portugal (or South Africa if the rumours we're going there in pre-season happen) and the Championship.
There's no a rumour going round some of our players walked out of training, although if it's true they were only there for an hour that does seem a bit much.
Shola
Benitez to Newcastle
Number 1
Benitez to NUFC is a rumour started on Twitter, but one of the more fantasy ones anyway. If we did sack Pardew we'd probably wind up with JFK again anyway.
hammer9
Jonas
Jonas
hammer9
Shedender
So much for their revival.