Footygamer
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This guide will walk you through how to make changes to the sortitoutsi data update.

 

Incase you didn't know the update is entirely collaborative. Hundreds of people contribute changes every year using our online editor. When you submit a change a moderator has to come and approve your change, once it's approved it will then automatically be included in the next version of our update.

 

I'll now show you how to contribute a change by transferring Dean Smith from Aston Villa Manager to Norwich Manager.

 

When you visit the Data Update Page on the right hand side you'll see options to "Search" or "Browse".

If you know what you're looking for you can easily search, e.g. here i'm searching for "Steven Gerrard". SImply click the result you want to be taken to the person's profile:

 

Alternative you can browse the entire FM DB. This way you'll start at each Nation and drill down to Steven Gerrard by going to Europe > Scotland > Premiership > Rangers > Steven Gerrard.

This is useful if you can't remember the exact spelling for a player. You could also have searched “Scotland” in the search bar to jump straight to Scotland and clicked through to Rangers that way as well.

Once on Steven Gerrard's profile you're going to want to find the “Edit Data” button

 

 

Click this and you'll be greeted with a form with lots of fields which you can edit.

In our case we're looking to change 3 fields:

  • Team Contracted To = Aston Villa
  • Date Contract Expires = 30/06/2025
  • Data Contract Signed = 11/11/2022

 

Simply use the search box like normal and you should see the form change from this:

To this:

Now we don't want to edit any of the fields (reserved for future transfers and loans and such) so just scroll past those until you find the “description” and “proof” fields.

These are very important fields. You're going to want to briefly describe the change you've made in English, in our case this is easy we can just say something like “Transferred Steven Gerrard from being manager of Rangers to being manager of Aston Villa”.

 

The next field is the “proof”. Here you need to provide a URL that proves that the change you've made reflects real life. It may seem obvious that Steven Gerrard has moved to Aston Villa, but with thousands of changes being made every year not everyone will know about every event and we can't simply trust every submission we get. So it's important to find a trust worth news item and put it in the proof field.

 

In our case it seems obvious to link to the official Aston Villa website since it gives proof that it happened. However alternatively we might want to link to a news article that has more info, such as this one which has details about the length of his contract.

In our case I think the best thing to do would be link to the official announcement and then add a comment with the extra details.

So now this is what our form looks like:

 

 

Now what you're going to want to do is hit the big blue “SUBMIT” button, to submit your change.

 

Now you should see something like this:

 

A description of your change has been automatically generated based on what you entered. Anyone can also click the “proof” link on the right hand side to check the link to proof you submitted.

 

The “pending” icon indicates that a moderator must come and approve your change before it's added, don't worry this usually happens within a few hours 🙂

Now I mentioned earlier it would be worth adding an extra comment. You can comment on any person within the DB just look for the “Add Comment” button:

Now let's leave a helpful comment:

And now its been added to the feed alongisde our change:

 

You can join in the discussion about any person or any change anywhere in the DB this way.

 

And that's it. When the data update is next built (once a day in the early hours of the morning UK time) your changes will be included and you can download them from the main data update page

 

If you have any questions or need any help feel free to reach out by replying to this post 🙂

BramNUFC
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@Footygamer how do you set someone to be a free agent? https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/person/37007850 this manager has been sacked so he doesn't have a club right now (same with https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/person/3700294) 

Footygamer
16 years ago
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@BramNUFC  Looks like you figured it out, but you just delete the club from the field 🙂 

Paul Butterfield
3 years ago
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Why has no one taken Oscar Tabarez from Uruguay national manager ?

 

Thank you

Paul Butterfield

 

Sorry im new to this

Paul Butterfield
3 years ago
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Why has no one taken Oscar Tabarez from Uruguay national manager ?

 

Thank you

Paul Butterfield

 

Sorry im new to this

Paul Butterfield
3 years ago
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Oscar Tabarez is no longer Uruguay manager.

 

Thank you.

Paul Butterfield

Footygamer
16 years ago
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Hey @Paul Butterfield have you read the first post and attempted this yourself?

Paul Butterfield
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yes done it thanks

 

boota
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how would you edit relegation/promotion for a league system?, i can only find how to edit specific players.

Footygamer
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Our online editor only allows editing players, you can use the pre game editor to edit relegation and promotion and then give the file to use to include, although usually @TheMinsterman does all the promotions and relegations.

 

What leagues do you think need updating?

TheMinsterman
16 years ago
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Yes, I will update the leagues for the summer and unless there’s any difficulties I will always do leagues on request which are not already included. Once the new game comes out I move on to preparing for that summers update not for the previous game, unfortunately.

boota
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the swedish leagues are now done for the year.

relegated from allsvenskan are

Halmstads BK (qualification)

Örebro SK (15th)

Östersund FK (16th)

 

promoted to allsvenskan from superettan:

IFK Värnamo (1st)

GIF Sundsvall (2nd)

Helsingborgs IF (qualification)

 

relegated from Superettan are

GAIS (through qualification to div. 1 south)

Akropolis (will be relegated to division 2)

Vasalunds IF (15th to div 1 north)

Falkenberg (16th to div. 1 south)

 

Promoted to Superettan from division 1 are

IF Brommapojkarna (1st. Division 1 North)

Utsktens BK (1st Division 1 south)

Dalkurd FF (through qualification)

Skövde AIK (Through qualification)

 

the preliminary compositions of divisions 1 and 2 are in the attached files

 

Robin Heart
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Germany: 2. Bundesliga: Holstein Kiel:
here you can see the actually Stuff of the Club. = here in details: https://www.holstein-kiel.de/verein/mitarbeiter/

+ here: Link: https://www.transfermarkt.de/holstein-kiel/mitarbeiter/verein/269

+ here: https://www.holstein-kiel.de/teams/kader/

Please, can you include the missing Stuff? i want to play with my Club and start a Career in FM22.

Thanks 👍🙏⚽⚽❣️

 

Edit: 

+ here the Supervisory board  : https://www.holstein-kiel.de/verein/gremien/aufsichtsrat/

+ here the Partners of the Club: https://www.holstein-kiel.de/verein/mitgliedschaft/partner-der-ksv-mitgliedschaft/

+ here the Cooperation Partner: https://www.holstein-kiel.de/verein/kooperationen/

BramNUFC
3 years ago
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This guy was set up to have a future transfer in january, but in my newly started save he is already at his new club in july, does anyone have an idea why?

https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/person/53138885

Footygamer
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@BramNUFC  If you click “Download” in the bottom right of the change you can download just that change by itself and then test it in game or using the editor.

 

I can't see any reason for it happening in the pre game editor. Haven't tested with a full game yet.

Hablo
1 year ago
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How do I work a player whose contract has been terminated and who is now unemployed? which fields do I have to fill in and which fields do not?

BramNUFC
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By Hablo 31 December 2021 - 13:26 PM UTC 

How do I work a player whose contract has been terminated and who is now unemployed? which fields do I have to fill in and which fields do not?

 

You just remove his club and contract, then when you press submit it should say that he's been released

WatsonFM
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Please help, how to do in cases of MLS players that appear as free in the tool but are on contract at clubs?  

 

example: https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/person/72051164

 

The player appears as without contract, but in reality he is at Atlanta United,
The player has been released from the club, I tried removing the dates from the contract but it didn't work, he is still in the team when starting a save

i dont know how to dribble this on some players, another example this player is on contract with chicago fire, but appears as no

 

https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/person/72051254

 

 

 

 

Footygamer
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I'll have a look at those this week, it might be the data has been updated 

McG84
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Players in the USA who are free agents from 1st January 2022 should show that they're leaving when their contract expire on 31st December 2021. I've noticed players showing as free agents in a new save from July 21 which is incorrect because the players are or were still with their clubs. 

WatsonFM
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By Footygamer 02 January 2022 - 06:14 AM UTC 

I'll have a look at those this week, it might be the data has been updated 

 

Thanks, I'm wanting to upgrade this league, but I don't know how to do it with these players

WatsonFM
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By McG84 02 January 2022 - 09:39 AM UTC 

Players in the USA who are free agents from 1st January 2022 should show that they're leaving when their contract expire on 31st December 2021. I've noticed players showing as free agents in a new save from July 21 which is incorrect because the players are or were still with their clubs. 

 

The problem is that if the player is marked to leave at the end of the contract, for the people who start the save in December 21 for example, the game itself automatically renews the contracts, and so this player will be marked to leave only in December 22, I think that the best option is to show the real current situation? 

McG84
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By WatsonFM 02 January 2022 - 17:00 PM UTC 

The problem is that if the player is marked to leave at the end of the contract, for the people who start the save in December 21 for example, the game itself automatically renews the contracts, and so this player will be marked to leave only in December 22, I think that the best option is to show the real current situation? 

Yeah you're right. It's the same with countries like Sweden and Norway cos they start in April and finish in November in the same year, so they have lots of players who are out of contract come the end of the year. I've posted a lot of transfer/contract updates via the date update section, so we can only go by what the admins deem to be correct or what will enable smooth running of the game. 

 

Say for example you wanted to play the US league, should you start during the 21 season (use the English league as your starting point) or start in the new 22 season which I believe starts in Feb if you want to see the current changes?

WatsonFM
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By McG84 02 January 2022 - 17:36 PM UTC 

Yeah you're right. It's the same with countries like Sweden and Norway cos they start in April and finish in November in the same year, so they have lots of players who are out of contract come the end of the year. I've posted a lot of transfer/contract updates via the date update section, so we can only go by what the admins deem to be correct or what will enable smooth running of the game. 

 

Say for example you wanted to play the US league, should you start during the 21 season (use the English league as your starting point) or start in the new 22 season which I believe starts in Feb if you want to see the current changes?

 

The South American leagues also work this way, I believe that all leagues that occur within the same year are like this


For the option to leave at the end of contract on december 21 to work, for the tests that I did the maximum date to be used to start would be november 21 or before that, I used the australian league that has a start date in november and it worked. 


Any start after December 21, the contracts will be renewed by the game and the player will be scheduled to leave on December 22 for example, but I believe that those who want to play MLS, South American leagues, or leagues that occur in the same year focus on starting December 21 or January 22 in following, because most people will seek to play with updates of promotions and relegations in the leagues that have, correct participants of continental competitions, history of champions etc, in these leagues, but starting before December 21 this would not be possible because the game would simulate the results of the season 21, disturbing the updates of these issues in these leagues

 

And as the transfers of the transfer window in January, are made with immediate effect as they are in real life, I believe that the correct would be these players that leave at the end of contract in December 21 be released in free transfers immediately, but let's wait for the administrators to tell us the most correct, so that everyone helps each other in the updates

 

I agree with you it would be good if they occurred within the game on the actual dates, but I believe that this generates a very large and complex demand of administration and details that not everyone has when making an update request, in addition to the issue of staff movements etc, and limitations of the pre-game editor, and so if it has this standard of being the present-day real-life situation, I believe it may be for this reason

 

But let's wait for the admins to say the correct thing in these cases, because I'm ready to update the MLS transfers

 

PS, Sorry English is not my first language so there may be errors in what I tried to explain

McG84
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By WatsonFM 02 January 2022 - 20:10 PM UTC 

The South American leagues also work this way, I believe that all leagues that occur within the same year are like this


For the option to leave at the end of contract on december 21 to work, for the tests that I did the maximum date to be used to start would be november 21 or before that, I used the australian league that has a start date in november and it worked. 


Any start after December 21, the contracts will be renewed by the game and the player will be scheduled to leave on December 22 for example, but I believe that those who want to play MLS, South American leagues, or leagues that occur in the same year focus on starting December 21 or January 22 in following, because most people will seek to play with updates of promotions and relegations in the leagues that have, correct participants of continental competitions, history of champions etc, in these leagues, but starting before December 21 this would not be possible because the game would simulate the results of the season 21, disturbing the updates of these issues in these leagues

 

And as the transfers of the transfer window in January, are made with immediate effect as they are in real life, I believe that the correct would be these players that leave at the end of contract in December 21 be released in free transfers immediately, but let's wait for the administrators to tell us the most correct, so that everyone helps each other in the updates

 

I agree with you it would be good if they occurred within the game on the actual dates, but I believe that this generates a very large and complex demand of administration and details that not everyone has when making an update request, in addition to the issue of staff movements etc, and limitations of the pre-game editor, and so if it has this standard of being the present-day real-life situation, I believe it may be for this reason

 

But let's wait for the admins to say the correct thing in these cases, because I'm ready to update the MLS transfers

 

PS, Sorry English is not my first language so there may be errors in what I tried to explain

 

Thanks for your message, I understand what you mean. It was good that you done a test in the Australian league then that way you can see for yourself if the end of contracts would work correctly or not. 

 

I will leave it to the admin guys to decide what is the best way forward. I mean there's a lot of players now who are free agents, especially in Brazil, Sweden, Norway and the USA. I guess a lot of these players will be joining new clubs this month or in February, so when they do I'll forward the changes onto the admin guys and they can decide the best way to show the changes in the game.

 

PS. Your English is very good 👍

 

_antlee
10 years ago
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What do we do in an instance where players do not exist on the default FM database? Celtic have signed three players from the J-League - Daizen Maeda and Yosuke Ideguchi both exist in the database editor tool as they played for European clubs in the past, but are locked for editing as they were not in the database for this game. All three do exist in the Japan database on sortitoutsi - could they be manually pulled across from that for the update or will it be a case of waiting for the official SI one?

BramNUFC
3 years ago
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@Footygamer Maybe I'm blind, but where can you actually see what someone has written down in this description area? And would it maybe be an option to not make it required for staff members to fill in that field? Now it just feels like unnecessary work every time, because my submissions are enabled automatically anyway.

Footygamer
16 years ago
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Ah yeah that could maybe be removed. There was a point when the automatic descriptions couldn't always be generated but that's not the case now.

 

We were very close to expanding the whole system to let you edit ANYTHING which would make manual descriptions necessary because automatic ones would be use and verbose.

 

But that had to be rolled back.

 

I'll change it to an optional comment now.

Footygamer
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By WatsonFM 02 January 2022 - 02:33 AM UTC 

Please help, how to do in cases of MLS players that appear as free in the tool but are on contract at clubs?  

 

example: https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/person/72051164

 

The player appears as without contract, but in reality he is at Atlanta United,
The player has been released from the club, I tried removing the dates from the contract but it didn't work, he is still in the team when starting a save

i dont know how to dribble this on some players, another example this player is on contract with chicago fire, but appears as no

 

https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/person/72051254

 

It does seem like when I start a new save he's on a free transfer:

I think maybe the game simulates the USA a little and he gets released during that time. Not sure other than that.

WatsonFM
5 months ago
1 hour ago
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By Footygamer 09 January 2022 - 07:51 AM UTC 

It does seem like when I start a new save he's on a free transfer:

 

I think maybe the game simulates the USA a little and he gets released during that time. Not sure other than that.

I think possibly he was dismissed by the game

 

Here he starts in the club and in the pregame editor when analyzing the update file it's possible to see all the changes made here in the tool in him, but he continues in contract, this week I got all the MLS official exits and edited here in the tool, at this moment I have 44 players like the example mentioned.

 

Who were dismissed but I can not remove them from the clubs because they appear here in the tool as free agents, but are in contract in the game, were more however some have already been transferred to other clubs, I don't know what can cause that, but apparently the problem is only in MLS.

 

Examples of some of the 44 dismissed players that are like this, not being able to remove them from clubs

 

https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/person/72023357

https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/person/862068

https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/person/8447129

 

 

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