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Ninja
I really feel like the fact Tan is a dick has masked the fact that Mackay wasn't exactly doing a great job.
Did he deserve to go? I doubt it, but its not like they were safe in mid table.
Number 1
There's a hefty culture down the bottom of dispensing when you're in the shit. Sometimes it works, like it seems to do at Palace and Sunderland. But sometimes it creates instability and can lead to trouble. I'm not sure if Mackay would've kept them up but it would have helped him and the players to have not had Tan and the manager feuding for months.
Shola
I think Mackay has definitely got some friends in the media. Cardiff were overachieving under Mackay seems to be a popular theme.
Cardiff made 6 major signings in the summer and 3 of left the club in January. Arguably a 50% fail rate on transfers may be the real reason he was sacked. Odemwingie, Cornelius and Brayford on loan have left. Medel, Caulker and Theophile are still there.
Poe
K3V0
This.
Telegram Sam
You could make that argument for every promoted club though, yet it never happens. Also, most managerial changes seem to be paying off this season - Sunderland are better off with Poyet than Di Canio, Crystal Palace are infinitely stronger with Pulis and Meulensteen has done more with Fulham than Jol.
Crane
I think it was more the way he was sacked, not the reasons why. If he'd just sacked him one day and stated because of his failed transfers, I don't think too many people would have argued. It was the long drawn out process in which the media knew every step. That wasn't good for the club.
Ninja
It's more than that, when he left they were one point above the relegation zone and iirc they were in awful form as well (winning 1 of their last 8). For footballing reasons there are as many reasons or him to go as their were Steve Clarke, possibly more so because Solskjear is inarguably a good manager and they obviously had him lined up. Whether he can cut it at Premiership level remains to be seen, but that is as equally true for Mackay.
I'm not saying either of them necessarily did deserve to be sacked, they probably didn't and its indicative of the short termism nature of clubs at this level (something you were, rightly, bemoaning in the transfer thread), but the portrayal of poor, innocent Malky Mackay who was doing an outstanding job, far beyond what could reasonably be expected of him and evil, clueless, Vincent Tan is a nonsense.
And for the record, even though I don't like Tan, I fully believe him when he says it was Mackay that was leaking the internal ongoings to the press and making this play out in public.
Shola
Jamieandhisego
Watching the team, you wouldn't even notice the transition.
Number 1
This is more or less what I meant with my original comment. There was first speculation on Mackay's job in September-October, especially after the sacking of the club's head of recruitment in early October. It took about two and a half months of uneasy-truce and continual sniping between owner and manager before the inevitable happened.
It is this that led to instability and uncertainty, and would've impacted on the form if the players felt something was up, not least given Tan had been banned from the Cardiff dressing room. So it was all a continual mess that would've impacted on the club's mindset.
My line of thought, anyway.
Change can sometimes be better in any case. Jury's out if Solskjaer can better Mackay, but certainly Pulis and Poyet have improved their teams. Don't think Fulham's new manager has changed much, mind - they're now slightly less shit then they were, but are still shit.
Ninja
Hey Leute, in den letzten Tagen wurde viel geschrieben und vor allem spekuliert über meine sportliche Zukunft. Aber ihr solltet nicht alles Glauben was in einigen Zeitungen steht. Fakt ist : ich bin sehr glücklich bei Bayern zu spielen und meine sportliche Situation als Stammspieler ist sehr gut. Fakt ist aber auch das wir uns stand heute nicht auf einen neuen Vertrag einigen konnten. Da dieser aber noch bis 2015 läuft ist das auch kein großes Problem und wir werden sehen was die Zukunft bringt. Meine volle Konzentration liegt aber auf das sportliche und das wir wenn möglich genauso erfolgreich die Saison abschließen wie letztes Jahr ! Toni
I'll even translate it for you cunts.
Poe
Ninja
Yeah, I was a bit lazy in translating and to be fair he's more positive than the bullet points make it sound.
It's basically all very positive apart from the 'we will see what the future brings' line.
Sam
Hmm, no.
King Luis
Eric Portapotty
Carroll.
Eric Portapotty
Nah, for both practical and irrational reasons.
He's on the wrong side of 30, and if this season is anything to go by then last season's lack of fitness issues are a one-off.
If Palmieri's rumours are to be believed (35 mil) then he's not worth that money, especially since we make a loss on this.
And fuck him, he showed clearly his allegiances earlier in the season, and should stick to a cause for once.
Ninja
In fairness, Ferguson fucked RVP right over.
Slashman X
Sam
Despite the problems RVP has had this season, he doesn't want to leave United. And he won't.
Telegram Sam
Wenger supposedly met with van Persie's agent on Jan 28th. This seems odd as we were playing Southampton on that day, and even if he did meet him, van Persie and Thomas Vermaelen share the same agent. So there's nothing in it and Palmeri is just making up shit like he normally does.
I genuinely wouldn't want that cunt back at this club anyway.
.verse
Would love to see a quality forward join, though I'm also torn between wanting to keep Lukaku also. I still think he deserves a decent crack before he's moved on. Definitely can't do any worse than what we've got so far.
Slashman X
.verse
A quality striker will provide that edge that is currently lacking. With Turnbull no longer at the club it makes this an even more pressing issue to address in the summer.
Telegram Sam
Ninja
I rate him, but I'd be absolutely livid if we signed him.
Number 1
I didn't realise we had any fat left to trim. Such a waste of such a talented squad.
Slashman X
Why?
Cos he's not what you need?
Coleman is exceptional