The England National Team

I see Peter Herbert is embarrassing himself again.

Good, I missed him.

England squad to face Chile at Wembley on 15 November:

Goalkeepers: Fraser Forster, Joe Hart, John Ruddy.

Defenders: Leighton Baines, Gary Cahill, Ashley Cole, Kieran Gibbs, Phil Jagielka, Glen Johnson, Phil Jones, Chris Smalling, Kyle Walker.

Midfielders: Ross Barkley, Michael Carrick, Tom Cleverley, Steven Gerrard, Jordan Henderson, Adam Lallana, Frank Lampard, James Milner, Andros Townsend, Jack Wilshere.

Forwards: Jermain Defoe, Rickie Lambert, Jay Rodriguez, Wayne Rooney, Daniel Sturridge, Daniel Welbeck.

Decent squad, nice to see Lallana get some recognition. Can't see a good reason why Defoe/Welbeck/Cleverley have been picked though.

Defoe has been lethal whenever he's played for Spurs tbf, scores every week on a Thursday

Also, surely Gareth Barry is more deserving of a call-up than Cleverley?

He is. At 32, though, I can kinda see the logic in leaving him out.

I guess, but Hodgson's been more than happy to call up those in their early thirties since he took the reigns.

Yeah but if you include him over Cleverley then you're looking at having 4 central-midfielders over the age of 30 in the squad. That's at least one too many.

Fair enough, but Barry has still had a much better season than Cleverley.

Cleverly. Trying to let that sink in in a serious manner but I just can't take it it seriously hahaha. He's a joke, completely overrated. If he played for anyone else he wouldn't even get a look in.

Ramsey had a period where he was shit as well after injuries. Give him time and hopefully he will come good