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kingrobbo commented on: Regens/Newgens Dates they come into the game
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For The Live Transfer Update, I suggest to having the date of join and date of last contract signed for the staff and players transferred in new club or national team.
Also, In non-playing history, there should be date of left when the staff and players left the club or national team.

It will make the save more realistic when having Real Fixtures/results FM20 with custom start date with the The Live Transfer Update with my suggestion.
Why do we need to set player's wage always?
In most cases the wage is unknown. Clubs do not publish this information.
Why not calculate it automatically or let the game to calculate it?

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Why do we need to set player's wage always?
In most cases the wage is unknown. Clubs do not publish this information.
Why not calculate it automatically or let the game to calculate it?


I totally agree with this one.
Leave it as an option, not as a requirement
I totally agree with this one.
Leave it as an option, not as a requirement


I tend to agree with this as 99% of links submitted with the transfer have no details of the actual wages and those in the 'press' are tenuous at best so as you suggest it would be better for the game to generate the wage based on country/team/player rep etc

I will tag @Footygamer see what his feelings are
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That's a fair point. I've removed it as a requirement now.
That's a fair point. I've removed it as a requirement now.


Thank you as IMO it is far better to let the game generate the wage
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So I've been getting some submissions annulled which have the correct information provided, only to find another submission that is the exact equal (in information and source), but with assigned wages I do not comprehend came from. Let's put, for example, this one.

If there were to be a known wage, I'd put it. I check for that too, and most of the time, it is not public information. Are contract wages now estimated in relationship to club & player or something?

Sorry if I'm bothering you, I just want to understand so I can deliver better updates next time.

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If you want to discuss with the mod who didnt approve the submission use the discuss tab on the disabled change

sometimes several users submit the exact same change the most I have seen is 17 IIRC and therefore only one gets enabled the others disabled

you question re wages is answered by footygamer in the thread, leave it for the game to generate which I totally support
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How about adding in the option to edit squad numbers?
Would that be possible?
That's a fair point. I've removed it as a requirement now.


hi mate still getting loads of submissions where users are putting in what they think the wage is/should be is there a way to disable the wage totally as we are back to square one really otherwise, as some users are doing automatically I believe
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You could edit it before approving?

I guess that probably takes a bit too long now and would be a big chore.

I can add a message below just saying, "Only add if you're sure otherwise the game will automatically generate a sensible amount".
You could edit it before approving?

I guess that probably takes a bit too long now and would be a big chore.


I can add a message below just saying, "Only add if you're sure otherwise the game will automatically generate a sensible amount".


yes it would be, it would basically mean having to re edit the submission from scratch as there is no option to approve part of the data update
eg current submission- https://sortitoutsi.net/admin/dataupdate/moderate/376262 nothing in the link supports the 20k wage so the option is either approve(many are being approved with no proof of wage) not approve it, or edit the whole thing which is double the work for a mod and would be very time consuming

my suggestion as you know is if there is no proof in link it should be left blank by the user

if not it should not be approved and a note to user stating wage not confirmed no support in the link





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I added the optional link:

https://i.imgur.com/nYTtOOp.png

I guess we could add checkboxes like

"Transfer Fee Known"
"Wage Known"
"Contract Length Known"

So we have a clear indicator whether it's official or a guess or what.
I added the optional link:

https://i.imgur.com/nYTtOOp.png

I guess we could add checkboxes like

"Transfer Fee Known"
"Wage Known"
"Contract Length Known"

So we have a clear indicator whether it's official or a guess or what.


that sounds good mate and it would stop the ''guesstimates'' and makes the DB more realistic

perhaps it could say only submit wage if supporting link confirms it, leave blank if not supported?

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