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Its the same for me, seem to miss many more than i score.
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Don't suppose anyone has the original tactic still do they? Plan on giving it a go with Liverpool and think the original would suit the players best, especially Mane as a shadow striker. Got a few players that can play BWM role as well. Henderson/Can/Milner etc

Or does anything think the second version would be better choice? I've got the players that can player the changed roles just not sure if it will get the best out of them.


I'll have a look when i get in from work later if its still in my folder.
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What's the song Utd fans sing to the tune of Herman's Hermits - I'm Into Something Good? I only ask as its one of my all-time favourite songs and they seem to sing it every game.


Wasn't quite as good as i thought sadly.

Woke up this morning feeling fine
I've Got Man Utd on my mind

Jose's got us playing the way Utd should

Something tells me I'm into something good
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What's the song Utd fans sing to the tune of Herman's Hermits - I'm Into Something Good? I only ask as its one of my all-time favourite songs and they seem to sing it every game.
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Our fans singing you don't know what you're doing for taking off an injured Sanchez who's also hardly kicked the ball all half. Fucking spastics.
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Anderlecht v Manchester United

Celta Vigo v Genk

Ajax v Schalke

Lyon v Besiktas

You look at the teams left in this competition and just think what is the actual point of it?
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Atletico Madrid v Leicester City

Borussia Dortmund v Monaco

Bayern Munich v Real Madrid

Juventus v Barcelona

First legs 11 & 12 April

Second legs 18 & 19 April
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Whoever replaces Karanka only needs to try to get the side to score goals to be a massive improvement, think its to late to save them though.
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Personally i think far too much is being made of it, i mean surely the champions of England should be qualifying from the group they had and then beating Sevilla? The real test will be in the quarter finals when they play one of the top sides.
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I can't remember how you view it but i'm sure its to get a list of the current biggest stadiums in the game. If there is a way could you post up a picture please.
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I understand what you lot mean by saying a team 'cost you' but in fairness they've only actually cost you your stake
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Ibrahimovic suspended, Rashford ill, Rooney injured and Martial injured.

Tonight is going to be fun.


In fairness though the latter three have a combined total of 8 goals and 10 assists in 54 appearances between them this season. (if the stats i just looked at are correct)
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Thanks for your reply VP.

Yeah, I agree ... I think it's better to set the players to move wider rather than change the whole shape of the team. However, after I wrote this post, I checked the PIs of the AM & SS & there isn't an option to 'Stay Wider' To be honest, I wrote this post at work & while writing it, I wasn't sure about the PIs available. As soon as I went home, I checked & they don't have a 'Stay Wider' option.

So .... I was thinking about moving them wider physically i.e. as IFs or Wingers. Do you think it will affect the tactic badly? Have you ever tried it please?

Don't remind me about that 2-0 win at Anfield!!!! (PS: I'm a Liverpool fan I'm playing with Ajax because I have too much respect for Klopp ). Anyway, I'll be looking forward to your tactics because, as I said, I really like this one & I'm sure you're capable of producing even better ones


Must admit i wasn't sure if they could be set to play wider either Though being at work myself i can't check either.

You can try them both as IF's and i'm certain you can set them to player narrower as well (again you'll have to check) and try to give them PI's to get them as close to an SS and AM as possible but again this does largely change the shape of the side but no harm in trying i guess.
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Anyway .... I have one small concern with this tactic. Sometimes I see it as too Narrow. Ok, I know that it's set-up to 'Exploit the Middle' & on certain occasions, we do build our play via the Full-Backs / score from a cross. But, there are instances in which we're unable to penetrate the opposition's defence through the middle. So, I was thinking about making it a bit wider when it needs be. What do you suggest please? Do you think it's better to, for example, alter the AM & SS Player Instructions so they get wider? Or it's better to amend the Team Instructions?

And one final thing. I noticed that you've set it up with very few Player Instructions. I'm not complaining about this but do you have any suggestions for additional PIs to further improve the tactic please?

Thank you in advance for your assistance


Thanks for the comments, its good to see others have success with it

Personally i'd set the players to move wider rather than change the whole shape of the team as it meant to be a more centrally attacking tactic. As for the PI's that's totally down to yourself if you wish to change them, i personally don't like tactics with too many instructions as i feel it can over complicate things. Now i'm saying that doesn't mean they won't make the tactic better, i prefer to keep things as simple as possible.

I may look into making another couple of tactics in the coming weeks with completely different formations to this one. I'd like to try and recreate a couple of old Arsenal tactics, one from the late 80's (a 5-3-1-1) which saw us win 2-0 at Anfield to win the title and the other from start of the Wenger years which would be more of a 4-4-2.

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Not sure if you watched the match last night, but after Di Maria butchered the 2 on 1 I turned and said to the girlfriend they'll regret not scoring there.

Low and behold they did in the end. Perfect as well, considering Di Maria was ssshhhhing the Barcelona fans like a complete cunt after Cavani scored.


Well they did boo him the whole time he was on the pitch.
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27 today. Starting to get old.


Still young, i'm 37.
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He's 100% leaving. Think he'll go PSG.

The club are desperately trying to get all the negativity away from the board and Arsene at the minute but it isn't working, their fluff pieces which went to every tabloid at the exact same time (weird coincidence, that) have just made more people of Alexis' side than anything else.

Sanchez has pissed me off a lot this season. His general demeanour has been dreadful and he acts like a cunt all the time, constantly moaning and groaning. I can understand his frustration but his professionalism has been a joke no matter how bad he feels his teammates are.

Can't wait til this season ends. Don't care where we finish, just bin Alexis and Arsene and start from anew.


Think we actually agree on something.
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Hello mate, have just downloaded this to use with Arsenal on the latest patch. It's saying its a defensive mentality, is that right?


Yeah that's just what i was using it on with Southend Utd but you can change the mentality from game to game depending on the opposition.
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Personally i just think the 'Gegenpress' and too many games are just an excuse for when the team plays shite, like against Leicester. Unless the 16 days rest they had just had before that match meant they were still tired from not having a Xmas break of course...

Plus not being in Europe means they've also played less games than the teams around them barring Chelsea too.

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HI, I started a new game using this tactic with Plymouth (local team) and managed to win League two at the first attempt started OK in League one but will see if the updated version can get me promoted again. have to say its a fab tactic although I do concede a few goals from crosses. Should I still use standard and defensive mentality with a smaller club?


Yes definitely mate or you will be too open, nothing wrong with playing attacking if you're behind or against a much weaker side but i wouldn't use unless you really have to going by my experience so far with Southend. Only played a handful of games in the Premier League but am really really struggling, though this is almost certainly down to the strength of my team and not the tactic as we're no where near good enough. Had the same when i was first promoted to the Championship and then got relegated, came back stronger 2 years later and then managed to get promotion . Really not expecting to stay in the Premier for more than a season but will give it a good go.
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Newer version now uploaded.
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I've made some small changes to it and have now managed to get Southend Utd into the Premier League, will probably update the download link later tonight at some point.
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Why wouldn't it? It's probably the most likely high profile transfer I've ever seen. Levy would give Woodward a blowjob and Kane if he offered around £100m.

Zlatan's gone in a year or two, Kane's the logical successor


I just don't see any reason for him to want to leave Tottenham and go anywhere else in England. Tottenham are a better side than Man Utd at the moment with a very good up and coming squad who should only get better. He always seems very happy there and certainly doesn't come across as the kind of player that would move on at the first opportunity either. Plus other than funding for the new stadium i see absolutely no reason why they would have to sell him, clubs in the Premier League nowadays don't have to sell their best players (thanks to the massive tv money) especially to a rival in the same league.

Its logical from Man Utd's point of view but certainly not from Tottenham's or Harry Kane's.
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Easily if he keeps this up. It's almost certain to happen as well


No it isn't.
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Again your missing the point that these players aren't actually that good, like Poe said they had one season they were playing above themselves and now they're just playing nearer their level. The teams they had in their CL group (aside from Porto, who they only beat 1 nil and then got smashed by) are also teams at a similar level to them. Also its not exactly out of the ordinary to see a team perform well in the CL and not domestically (you just have to look at previous years we were in the CL).


So why sack the manager if they are now performing how they should be? I'm not trying to be argumentative here but i really do not see how the manager can be blamed for the complete lack of interest the players have shown this season domestically. Granted they are not up there with Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, City, Utd and Liverpool in terms of quality which is why last season they won because the players were putting in 110% effort for 90mins of every match, they won games through work rate and fighting spirit which is basically everything they lack this season in the league. Yes the Champions League will effect you the following weekend and more so them as they don't have the squad to cope like the top sides but that is no excuse for all the other weekends when the players have failed to turn up.
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He shouldn't get the blame though, the players have been absolutely awful in the Prem this season yet almost magically turn up for the Champions League games? Its down to their complete lack of professionalism that has seen the team now look very likely to go down if current form continues. It just seems that they have gone in with the attitude that we're not gonna win the league again so lets put all our efforts into the Champions League and see how far we can go. Obviously they were never gone win the league again but they shouldn't be looking at relegation either.

Mancini appears to be the favourite to take over which as far as i'm concerned is a bloody ridiculous decision too, really hope they get relegated now.
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Getting sacked in the morning then, isn't he?
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Weird to have a game like that and say 2 nil flattered Arsenal tbh, Sutton had quite a few chances to get at least one goal.


Not really if you take into consideration the 13254265 occasions we fucked up the final pass. Thought Iwobi and Reine-Adelaide were absolutely terrible last night, neither showed any interest and acted as if the game was 'below' them. The rest of the team played reasonably ok and treated it as they would any other game. No one took the piss and just did there job. Shame Sutton didn't score, though would have liked it to finish a draw so they could play at our place and make a fortune from it.
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