It would also be good to split downloads for FM17 and FM18. As it is now, people simply assume that 2017/18 kit works for FM18, which is not the case.

And a new thread for FM18 3d kits would also be great

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By A11_Smithy | On 29 October 2017 - 17:13 PM GMT

Top work Bolid as always, what's the yellow line on the long sleeves? Seems odd that it's slanted but then you know the kit templates!

Long sleeves are narrower on the bottom, like on old template. Yellow line is following the border of maped surface. I left the long sleeves look like a rectangle, but they're actually narrower on the bottom

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I experimented a bit more and here I present an improved texture layout for kit makers.
I included standard Adidas 3 lines. Also in yellow a typical Nike side line which goes from sides of the body to the inside of sleeves.
I also included white bottom band/border which is very often found on bottoms of shirts, shorts and sleeves.
I marked the area where numbers and names are placed so don't put logos in those areas.
Socks don't share same surface after all.

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/llX19mSzsEqCRqu7ajpSdzQANjhaK1HncsD6rsuI.png

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By Korvin | On 28 October 2017 - 19:22 PM BST

Guys, upload 3D kits made by SI, if somebody has such opportunity.

There are no tools yet to unpack their archives

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By svranca | On 28 October 2017 - 17:16 PM BST

Does anyone know when the Serie A 3D kits would be available? thank you. Stefano

Why? Serie A has original kits.

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Few more attempts at this new FM18 format. Dinamo Zagreb and Osijek home kits. Few blurred logos on Osijek will be fixed in final pack.

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/JqCcoHrZS1DDdugTcJ2DZdJUXr3BbCaAM3s8XVGm.png

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/b2OeoRYiPbFLlin6QO1193h7GD0VLPTowVgmLjA3.png

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By Ivs | On 28 October 2017 - 13:50 PM BST

Outstanding effort bolid!
Do you think all the parts from old kits could be adapted to the new template, so no need to create kits from scratch? Hopefully without lose quality?
Is it possibile to see a screenshot of that Lokomotiva Zagreb kits in game?
I feel very sorry for all the kitmakers who put lots of time and dedication to create all these stunning 3d kits.
Keep the good work and don't give up.

You can grab parts from old texture and resize them and cover coresponding parts on new texture, as Smithy demonstrated above. Some minor issues might arise, like lines not aligning well from sleeves to shoulders. There's always a loss of quality when you resize parts but you can make this problem minimal by making a FM18 texture 512x512 as well. I made few textures in that way and it's not perfect but it's acceptable for first weeks.

Here's screenshot of Lokomotiva in game:

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/kAuTgF7Kgt8PEuA3GWBfV6LDzPwQlg6fFa0bO9LX.png

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By hammer9 | On 27 October 2017 - 23:19 PM BST

nice templates ...we have to do more again and our 3D templates packs will not use FM18 anymore ......oh well hopeful anyone kit maker keep going for 3D kits in the future!

Yes, we need new wip for FM18 and new download section for 3d kits. Old one still works for FM17 and it'll be good for people who won't switch to FM18

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By Zefph | On 28 October 2017 - 00:53 AM BST

Not sure where to post but why does kits from FM17 not work in FM18?

New player models use different textures. For example, chest is now maped from upper left corner (it was in the middle before).
It was expected simply because it doesn't make much sense for a 3d artist to create new model and then bother himself with how was old model textured. He has to do texture maping from scratch anyway so he does it in his own way.

Besides, old model had some limitations, for example long and short sleeves shared same zone so you couldn't make realistic hands in long sleeves if short sleeves had a horizontal band (which was often).

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And here's my first attempt at proper FM18 3d kit. Lokomotiva Zagreb home:

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/NI6sTG2ywRZEAU2sRymItagzFOttOhLQEVWEdMvr.png

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Here's the new layout. It's a bit crude for now but it works at least for simpler kits. I'll polish it more during weekend. Bottom are shorts, socks in the middle, sleeves on the right.

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/05Afv80ktkJTku2ByqbuG0foEotaXYsZa139Fgy0.png

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By Ivs | On 27 October 2017 - 12:49 PM BST

@bolid74 WinRar will not working for sure, but you could try Universal Extractor. It is available as portable, so you don't have to install an unnecessary program if you don't need it then.
No certainty to be able to extract graphics.fmf, but maybe worth a try.

Don't worry, getting an original kit texture is not needed. I simply created a chess-like texture with numbered boxes and I can see exactly which parts cover different zones on player and from there I can make exact layout. It's a two-hour job.

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I'll do it later today. I already started but real life interfered :-P This is how it looks generally, I'll pinpoint exact zones later and post it here.

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/VwA3lNGQj106a2ulPMebjV4nXozc5qrvoM4BEezC.png

It'll be possible to simply grab and resize parts from old layout and put it on new one. It won't be ideal, but it'll be good for first few weeks until proper new templates are released.

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But you can see custom kits in 3d game on teams which already had original 3d kits?

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By vonreichsm | On 27 October 2017 - 06:52 AM BST

But for now, the 3d kits did not work, is it right? i´ve tested it and could not see the 3d kits. only the default.

I only tried them in a league which doesn't come with original kits (Croatian). I'll check England later today

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Ok, this is what I learned so far.

Modding works the same as before, png files in folders with config.xml. Old configs work fine. You can simply copy folders with faces, SS kits or logos and it will work.

3d kits are brand new. I'm in the process of figuring out texture layout by using a chequered texture with numbers and I'll post it here when I'm done. So far I could see that socks now have separate surfaces for left and right. Also long and short sleeves are not sharing same surface any more. Because of that chest and shorts surface is slightly smaller than before, but 1024x1024 is now supported (was 512x512 before) and I plan to use it in the future. Now the graphic is much better and I think 1024x1024 should be accepted as standard.

As for players, they again wear shirts in both ways, tucked in or on the outside. Sleeves are short, long and short with underwear. Collars appear to be all round.

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By Ivs | On 26 October 2017 - 22:43 PM BST

That's a real shame, but that was only to be expected.
Someone could extract the default kits with the old resource archiver to see the textures?

I tried old archiver but it didn't work

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On a positive note, 3d match is much better and details on players are much sharper.

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By mons | On 26 October 2017 - 22:10 PM BST

I don't have the beta yet, but can you try reporting it as a bug on the official forums, maybe it's an oversight which can get fixed by the time the full game is released...

It's not an oversight or bug. They install correctly but there are new player models and texture mapping and layout is different. I can see that recognizable parts of kits are scattered all over the player so texture mapping is obviously new.
We'll have to redo our 3d kits.

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After checking in beta, I'm sorry to report that 3d kits won't work in FM 18.

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By Vawkes | On 25 October 2017 - 20:44 PM BST

I noticed that there are already many SS kit packs uploaded to the site for FM18, but I imagine most of these are in the older 220x220 format.

Are kit makers likely to re-release packs so they use the high-res style, or would any other kit makers look to make the packs again with the larger kits?

I plan to remake Championship in high res. So far is 42 of 64 done. Other leagues will remain mixed, with some common kits done in 414x414, while unique, more complicated kits will remain in 220x220.
For next season situation will be better since I'll start right away to work on 414x414 (this year I worked directly on 220x220 so only way to make a high-res kit is to do it again). Next year levels 1-4 will be high-res, 5-6 mixed, 7 and below mostly low-res.

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By bartdude | On 25 October 2017 - 03:11 AM BST

Hi bolid,when I posted a link to your fab kits in my group (DazS8 FM Graphics) on Facebook the guy who creates the FC'12 kits,Patrik Ballay responded by saying,and I quote, "Hi-res? Nothing against it, but 414x414 pix aren't hi-res pictures". I responded by saying he'd have to contact yourself to argue that point. Maybe he was miffed cos I said I thought too many of his kits looked "overexposed" lol !

Well, it's true that 414x414 are not high resolution in an absolute sense of the word, but they are highER resolution than standard 220x220. In short, high res :-)
FC12 are really a nice and sharp piece of graphics, very polished. They would look great on TV or in some magazine. In fact, I was split when contemplating which style to take and work with. I opted for SS because it seemed to have biggest support and acceptance. You can have all leagues in same SS style while FC12 is limited to higher leagues. SS also looks somehow closer to real shirts while FC12 looks - I wouldn't call them overexposed :-P but a bit "cartoonish". It's not a flaw per se, but I'm a sucker for realism, so I picked SS style.

I experimented with even higher resolution and I concluded that there's not much sense in going higher than 414x414 because FM17 is somehow resizing 2d kits and you actually can't see much of fine details. A good example would be my Brighton high-res kits, where I made a series of thin dark and light lines on the sleeves, but in game that surface looks smooth. Or Plymouth away where dotted chest pattern is resized into not-that-good squared mess. Perhaps for Plymouth away my 220x220 kits works better because I made dots bigger and out of proportion in order to have the appearance of dotted pattern (damn you Puma, so much trouble this year). We'll see in FM 18 how will this work.

Btw, I added link for National north few posts above, there are now few high res kits there as well.

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I made a lot of new high-res kits accross english leagues. Or to be fair, I made few new models, which are used by many clubs, which resulted in a lot of kits :-)
I work on these all the time and I'm updating packs almost on daily basis without mentioning it here. So feel free to use these links every few days, it's very likely there will be new high res kits.

A small preview:

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/F0xt8fvjpnxSUynJkDaqIFIMjbV70qd7Yzhy8cyI.png

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/f3c0qMD4dv4HBXwzFjY3v3COXd5F4U0OWLjDVlhk.png

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/RESXSv8FQ51m56LM23hEeCnB4jKTNmsOT5woRHGr.png

https://sortitoutsi.net/uploads/mirrored_images/Sa7vwKBe2HGQAWN2sTVkeemLyN5ANrN4V0N3WMFj.png

Here are the links (they're always the same, even those on page 133 are still valid)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/pb2jn0997haiuvv/Championship_SS%2717-18.rar
http://www.mediafire.com/file/cxy22nb4730gf5s/League_One_SS%2717-18.rar
http://www.mediafire.com/file/trxugphyye5aul4/League_Two_SS%2717-18.rar
http://www.mediafire.com/file/4mdbda7crs4qcwg/National_league_SS%2717-18.rar
https://www.mediafire.com/file/gk2qlkyoxpz4b48/National%20league%20North%20SS%2717-18.rar

#401685 SS' Official Kits Thread (NO REQUESTS)

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By r19r | On 21 October 2017 - 10:00 AM BST

Can you help get them into the game.?

Yes, please download any french league from this website with kits like these (SS type) - if you haven't done so already, and install them following instructions on download page.

Then you also copy my kits from this page and save them in same folder with french kits named like this:
annecy_1.png
annecy_2.png

where _1 kit would be home, and _2 is away.

Then you find config.xml find in same folder as kits and open it with notepad. You'll see a lot of repeating lines, coding for each kit. Copy these lines anywhere between lines or as last lines, or first lines:

<record from="annecy_1" to="graphics/pictures/team/1966/kits/home"/>
<record from="annecy_2" to="graphics/pictures/team/1966/kits/away"/>

This should be it, start your game, it should work with careers in progress.

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That makes it very likely that our 3d textures are outdated

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Here's the official screenshoot from FM 2018. We can see several things. First, standard kits are gone and replaced with this better model. Second, it seems that they increased it's size so high-res SS kits might be more suitable for FM18. And third, SI artist had load of troubles with Plymouth away kit and failed at it