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By chokosc | Permalink | On 28 October 2012 - 19:21 PM
Both Liverpool and Chelsea were robbed. Although I liked the way Everton played and Suarez should have been off.


How were Liverpool robbed? They got the main calls and Coates fouled the defender for the disallowed goal. Suarez should have been sent off but Chelsea were not robbed just unlucky. Both Torres and Ivanovic deserved their red cards (Torres for his high kick not the clear foul by Evans) and Hernandez was offside.
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Why should Suarez have been sent off?
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By Sears | Permalink | On 28 October 2012 - 19:27 PM
Why should Suarez have been sent off?


The stamp
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By Obtuse | Permalink | On 28 October 2012 - 20:26 PM
How were Liverpool robbed? They got the main calls and Coates fouled the defender for the disallowed goal. Suarez should have been sent off but Chelsea were not robbed just unlucky. Both Torres and Ivanovic deserved their red cards (Torres for his high kick not the clear foul by Evans) and Hernandez was offside.

Rooney derserved red card too
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By Juan Mata | Permalink | On 28 October 2012 - 19:32 PM
Rooney derserved red card too


I had parts where I didn't catch it but it wouldn't surprise me
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By Obtuse | Permalink | On 28 October 2012 - 19:26 PM
How were Liverpool robbed? They got the main calls and Coates fouled the defender for the disallowed goal. Suarez should have been sent off but Chelsea were not robbed just unlucky. Both Torres and Ivanovic deserved their red cards (Torres for his high kick not the clear foul by Evans) and Hernandez was offside.


I know it was a foul but it was ruled out for offside (the linesman put his flag up for offside and the referee did the 'move' for offside). Still, it should have been ruled off anyways so you are right.

Ivanovic probably did although it is hard to see if there was or wasn't contact in when he fell but when stuff like that happens it goes with the attacker 98% of the time so I don't mind that. Torres on the other hand got a yellow card for that challenge and rightly so. It was a high foot, don't think he meant for it to be that bad and 98% of the time referees give a yellow card for that. From there on it was just terrible! And Hernandez's goal wasn't unlucky for us. We were robbed!

By Sears | Permalink | On 28 October 2012 - 19:27 PM
Why should Suarez have been sent off?


Two intentional stamps, Distin (got booked for that) and Mirallas.
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By Torri | Permalink | On 28 October 2012 - 18:07 PM
Benitez: "You can't have an impartial Football Association when members of that board are also executives at Man Utd."

That's ridiculous btw.

Bernstein is chairman, life long City fan.
David Dein has been a member for ages, was also on the Arsenal board.
Phil Gartside is Bolton chairman.

David Gill is the PL representative, and the clubs are obviously happy with him because they keep electing him.

Spouting Benitez quotes doesn't really help you, that man was as crazy as they come.
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By Ninja | Permalink | On 28 October 2012 - 19:50 PM
That's ridiculous btw.

Bernstein is chairman, life long City fan.
David Dein has been a member for ages, was also on the Arsenal board.
Phil Gartside is Bolton chairman.

David Gill is the PL representative, and the clubs are obviously happy with him because they keep electing him.

Spouting Benitez quotes doesn't really help you, that man was as crazy as they come.


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By Carroll. | Permalink | On 28 October 2012 - 20:09 PM
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By jumberto | Permalink | On 28 October 2012 - 18:47 PM
We're going off on a tangent here. The point is he made every effort to make the test after he initially missed it and was not allowed to. He then got a ban exceeding most of the bans dished for failing a test. Basically the FA made an example of him. If they were bent they would not have done so.

All these morons going on about corrupt FA and officials are more annoying than the piss-poor refereeing. Any time anything remotely contraversial goes our way we never hear the end of it. When stuff happens against us or goes for other teams in other matches nothing is made of it.


This sums it up well.

Just read this from The Telegraph:




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At the risk of stoking the fires again, as harsh as Torres' second yellow was, could anyone have had any complaints with a straight red for that?
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By Ninja | Permalink | On 28 October 2012 - 20:38 PM
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At the risk of stoking the fires again, as harsh as Torres' second yellow was, could anyone have had any complaints with a straight red for that?


No, no one likes Man Utd
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By VP. | Permalink | On 28 October 2012 - 20:41 PM
No, no one likes Man Utd


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By VP. | Permalink | On 28 October 2012 - 20:41 PM
No, no one likes Man Utd

So no, you'd have no complaints? Glad we agree.
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Chelsea have confirmed they have lodged a complaint to the Premier League match delegate with regards to 'inappropriate language' used by referee Mark Clattenburg towards two of their players in today's game with Manchester United.

Chelsea have also launched an investigation into reports that a steward was injured by objects that were thrown on to the pitch following United's winning goal at Stamford Bridge.
Chelsea fans in the Matthew Harding stand hurled abuse and appeared to throw objects at the United players as they celebrated Javier Hernandez's winner in the 3-2 success at Stamford Bridge.

The steward, who was later taken to hospital, fell to the floor at the same time that the fans responded to the celebrations and needed approximately 10 minutes' treatment by paramedics at the side of the pitch.
'We are looking at reports of objects that may have been thrown or incidents around the steward taking a fall,' a Chelsea spokesman said after the match.
'We are investigating all the incidents around that time.
'My information so far is that he slipped and fell, may have hurt his knee, and was being treated by the side of the pitch. He's been taken to hospital.'
Hernandez gestured towards the pocket of home supporters after scoring the winner for United 15 minutes from time.
His captain Patrice Evra then tried to calm him down knowing the Mexican's celebration was likely to anger the Chelsea fans.
More stewards were seen coming to the aid of their injured colleague, who was clearly in pain, before a team of paramedics ran around the edge of the pitch to help him.
After the game Chelsea cordoned off the section of the stand where the fans vented their anger at the United players.
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Apparently the 'racially abused' element is coming from Chelsea fans that overheard it. Which is ironic given their unequivocal backing of Terry.

I love the irony of Chelsea fans sitting there booing Ferdinand because Terry racially abused his brother, but then being so offended when their players are on the receiving end.
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Match officials body PGMO "is aware of the allegations and they are being treated with the utmost seriousness. Mark will cooperate fully & welcomes the opportunity for the facts to be established. No further comment will be made until matter has been properly investigated."
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That's definitely the face you pull when you say the n word.
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He was saying it sarcastically.
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The Guardian are saying the racial comment was made to Obi Mikel.

Maybe Clattenburg was only repeating what he thought Mikel had said to him....
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Refs are wired up so all his words would be recorded anyway wouldn't they?
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Didn't get to see the game due to it being 3am kickoff here, have seen the highlights however and read a few reports on the game. Sounds like the officiating was horrendous on all accords. Torres' sending off was laughable, clear contact and goes down accordingly. How that was a second yellow is beyond me. Ivanovic on the other hand, can't really argue too much about I don't think. There was very minimal contact and there was cover, but in such a position it's always at risk to see red.

Not overly surprised United seemingly got the "rub of the green" for the most part. It's always a little expected when seeing either Webb or Clattenburg given the nob in United fixtures, this does nothing to really dispel such feelings. Of course Hernandez' goal had to be the suspicious winner also, tends to be that way.

I was debating on downloading the match and watching it but I feel as if I do I'll just get infuriated.

I guess we'll wait and see what comes of everything that's unfolded afterwards. I'm not expecting much but it would be refreshing to see something done, as the standard of officiating has really taken a nose dive the last few seasons.
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@MarioBaloltelli: That half time blowjob Fergie gave Mark Clattenburg at half time has definitely paid off


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By Verse | Permalink | On 28 October 2012 - 21:48 PM
Torres' sending off was laughable, clear contact and goes down accordingly.

I don't expect you to agree, but the 'clear contact' was slight and he went down about 2 steps after it happened.

Torres goes down on his own volition, he's felt a touch and thrown himself to the ground trying to get and opposition player booked or sent off.

For my money, and you can say what you want about Evans' tackle and the like, Torres has clearly dived.

It was a foul, but Torres tried to highlight by diving and got his comeuppance.
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If Kenny Dalglish doesn't come out wearing a T-shirt with Mark Clattenburg's face on it I'll be disappointed.
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By Ninja | Permalink | On 28 October 2012 - 21:58 PM
I don't expect you to agree, but the 'clear contact' was slight and he went down about 2 steps after it happened.

Torres goes down on his own volition, he's felt a touch and thrown himself to the ground trying to get and opposition player booked or sent off.

For my money, and you can say what you want about Evans' tackle and the like, Torres has clearly dived.

It was a foul, but Torres tried to highlight by diving and got his comeuppance.

The contact was still there and Torres went down accordingly. It's no different to what most other players do really, particularly in cases when a defender blocks an attacker off and the attacker runs into said defender and either stopping, or falling to their knees.

In the situation Torres' was in, there was no advantage for him to try and stay on his feet. It's the sort of thing you see every week. For me, those instances aren't dives. Does Torres go to ground easily, sure. But there was was enough contact for him to do so.

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