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Sam
Awful performance too.
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VP.
Sam
Clattenberg had to blow the whistle ten seconds early it was that bad.
tmatthew
K3V0
Had we scored tonight it would have just been that bit of magic from Van Persie and Rooney towards the end.
Poor match!!
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Crane
Carroll.
RealityCheck
FUCK THAT CUNT!
3 POINTS BEATCHHHHHHHHHHHH
Sears
Shedender
Crane
Why do you feel sorry for Riether Carrol? He dived into a tackle he was never going to win, in the box, late on in a game.
Sam
Carroll.
He looked absolutely gutted. As soon as Sturridge took it round him and he dived in there was only one outcome, cost Fulham big there
Ninja
Sam
I wasn't confident before the game, but 4th place is definitely out of reach.
Ninja
Slashman X
Shola
But my God, I genuinely think Newcastle fans are too fucking stupid for success. It's absolutely fucking pointless replacing Pardew. Tactics are genuinely despised, with a preference for passion, commitment and ambition.
Eric Portapotty
But how bad were we, really? Forgot about the match.
Number 1
Now, I'm only judging by highlights as I was at a concert while the game was on, but tactics, passion, commitment and ambition seemed like alien concepts, and barring a period at 2-0 where Lloris had to make three/four stops, the team looked consistently awful.
These last three months are just pointless. We're not going down, and the owners don't want European football, so just why should the fans care? Its not as if the players seem to give a fuck.
tmatthew
Aye, but that's Moyes' fault, obviously.
Poe
Shola
Yeah I wish Newcastle were in a relegation battle like 50% of the division... Ashley has never said he doesn't want European football. The players definitely give a fuck and they definitely gave a fuck last season.
Anyway the superfans stormed the club shop last night and intimidated some kids and staff.
Number 1
While its a good thing we're not in danger of relegation like last season, where the side was on Boxing Day resembled a good position to push on to attempt a challenge for European football. This could've been taken advantage of either by retaining Cabaye - although as it looks like he wanted out, that wouldn't have worked - or buying replacement(s) and keeping on going. At the very least, it did not hurt to try for success.
But since the sale of Cabaye, we don't seem to have the same ability to formulate coherent stratagems, which has led to us becoming an easier team to play against, and the team seems to lack the ambition, ability and interest it had back in the West Ham away day. Which does beg the question "What is there left this season?"
And if we have already achieved our goal for the campaign of a top 10 finish with room to error, it removes motivation for players and fans, and leads to aimless drifts where there were once performance. Well, unless someone in the rabble below reels us in.
Of course Ashley has not said he doesn't want European football - he hasn't said anything for years. But in the Fan Q&A thing, there was a quote from board members saying the Europa League didn't have a great investment-to-return ratio, hence a lack of interest in returning to it, and that Cups weren't priorities. This is hardly ambition, not least at a time when teams like Wigan, Swansea and Bradford can reach cup finals. But apparently, fuck ambition - a healthy balance sheet and reaching the high-30s points total by January before slamming on the brakes is where its at.
Shola
The Europa League isn't profitable. It's a fact. It apparently created £6m balanced out immediately by a probably drop in League place, ignoring any purchases required for the increased number of games. Pardew said in December, he wants to qualify.
The whole obsession with a cup run is again a total and complete lie. Newcastle had a good cup run last year. It was immediately forgotten. Souness was still in two competitions in mid-April, and is one of the least popular managers ever. Dalglish and Gullit were sacked 2 and 7 games after a cup final. Pardew went for the cups this year anyway. The fans didn't, 30'000 against Cardiff in the FA Cup. If the fans do really view cups in the stead they claim, then they would sell out all home FA Cup games. Likewise the Europa League last year got shite attendances. (Yet the fans are angered Newcastle aren't in it.)
Ambition? What is your opinion of ambition? Where should Newcastle be? No team has ever broken through to reach the top in the modern age. Spurs and Everton have been moving that way for a decade or so and haven't been successful, why do people believe Newcastle can do it? And why do they believe they would be doing it if not being held back?
Vercoe
Or at any point since.
Sam
Watching United on Wednesday night brought it all back.
Vercoe
Oh god you poor bloke! Wouldn't wish that on anyone
And the 40,000 seater stadium idea for the World Cup bid was farcical! We average about 7,800 now (although that's amazing considering for the past two seasons we've been fighting relegation. Last year I'm fairly certain we had about the third highest average attendance after the two automatic promoted teams, or something like that)!