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I find the idea that Mourinho will take a liking to some of these players a bit odd. De Gea, Schneiderlin, Shaw, Smalling, Martial. Sure. Heck, even (sadly) Valencia Fellaini, and Young I can see places for and someone that works as hard as Jesse Lingard may well do well. But the rest? I'm not sure they're natural fits.

But I very highly doubt Mourinho is licking his lips at some of them, least of all Memphis. Other than the fact he's a bit shit, at least based on what we've seen of him so far, I struggle to see Mourinho accommodating a lazy, work-shy show pony who thought he'd hit the big time the second he rocked up in Manchester. If he doesn't make flogging him the first order of business, which would be harsh but probably deserved, he would have to change his game considerably to fit in. The author makes the example of Hazard and Ronaldo, but both of them are players you would make far greater concessions for, and even Hazard had to fight to fit in.

If I was any of Darmian, Rojo, Blind, Herrera, Mata, Memphis, or Jones I'd probably be very worried right now.
Parker26
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If I was any of Darmian, Rojo, Blind, Herrera, Mata, Memphis, or Jones I'd probably be very worried right now.


I think Blind hasn't done much wrong, considering he has played in an un-natural position for most of the season. The rest I 100% agree with
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I think Blind hasn't done much wrong, considering he has played in an un-natural position for most of the season. The rest I 100% agree with


I think Blind has been excellent.

I just don't think Jose will like him.
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Re. Jose leaving Inter in a mess - it's a half truth - it was an aging squad that he managed to grind out a Champions League trophy with.

I'm not sure who was in charge of the signings at Inter, but their first season signings seem pretty bad, Crespo, Muntari, Mancini, Quaresma and Luis Jimenez - can't recall any of those doing anything for Inter.

But second season was all funded by player sales, Zlatan was sold, and Vieira, Cruz, Figo and Crespo all left. Milito, Eto'o, Lucio (were all outstanding signings - but all in their later stages of their careers), Sneijder and Motta were excellent signings as well.

But looking at their team, Julio Cesar, Toldo, Lucio, Materazzi, Samuel, Chivu, Maicon, Zanetti, Cambiasso, Millito, Eto'o, Stankovic & Ivan Cordoba all aged 28+ and Mariga and Muntari not really good enough imo.

Meaning the squad of Sneijder, Balotelli, Pandev and the suspended Thiago Motta being the only players the following managers could really rely on going forwards - a bigger worry would be he got rid of Leonardo Bonucci, and kept 4 CB's all aged 32+....

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Can't say I'm surprised by the move, he's been wanting this job for quite a while. I'd even go as far as saying that had Chelsea not offered him the chance to return, he'd have taken the United job around that same period.

Mourinho will probably have some instant success as usual, but I predict things will progressively go south sooner or later. Can't see him being at United for any longer than 3 seasons. His media handling and antics will no doubt displease a lot and will drag the club down, while also creating a divide with certain players. The squad is probably the weakest squad he's taken control of since Porto and there aren't many "Mourinho type" players to work with. Will be very interesting to see what unfolds over time, that's for sure.
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So apparently a statement is due at 1pm according to 'fat man'. Looks like it's happening today.

Plus Giggs supposedly isn't going to remain as backroom staff, which to be honest I'd be delighted with.

EDIT: That escalated quickly. Daily Mail, Mark Ogden and Sam Pilger all saying it's happened, LVG sacked. Plus all the Dutch staff members.
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The fat man reckons official statement at 1.

Edit: Fuck off Sam. Stop posting things 15 minutes before me because I haven't refreshed the thread.

Giggs reportedly offered a demotion to coach (boo) but will reject it and leave (yay)
Carroll.
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Horribly ran club these days.
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The fat man reckons official statement at 1.

Edit: Fuck off Sam. Stop posting things 15 minutes before me because I haven't refreshed the thread.

Giggs reportedly offered a demotion to coach (boo) but will reject it and leave (yay)




LVG getting a £5M pay off supposedly. I wonder where Giggs is going to fuck off to.
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But I very highly doubt Mourinho is licking his lips at some of them, least of all Memphis. Other than the fact he's a bit shit, at least based on what we've seen of him so far, I struggle to see Mourinho accommodating a lazy, work-shy show pony who thought he'd hit the big time the second he rocked up in Manchester. If he doesn't make flogging him the first order of business, which would be harsh but probably deserved, he would have to change his game considerably to fit in. The author makes the example of Hazard and Ronaldo, but both of them are players you would make far greater concessions for, and even Hazard had to fight to fit in.

You're talking about a man who once bought Quaresma. I'm sure he'll at least try to make something out of Memphis.
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"Here, have a stand named after you."
SpinSwimScream
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This is only gonna go really well or really badly . I'm cautiously optimistic, though I will wait to see what signings we make before making my mind up.
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Not sure I believe this. I genuinely can't believe LVG is that deluded to think that this season was actually acceptable and didn't have an inkling that this might have happened even if he wasn't told (which he probably wasn't because I very highly suspect he would have given up if he had been).
Franck
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This is only gonna go really well or really badly . I'm cautiously optimistic, though I will wait to see what signings we make before making my mind up.

Don't worry, Ibra is United-bound.
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Moyes has pulled out of the running for the Villa job. He's coming home lads.
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Neil Custis has just lost his shit on Talksport.

Today is a beautiful day.
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Don't worry, Ibra is United-bound.

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13226812_10153672689354211_143778456172047048_n.jpg?oh=cf5b9b8dbfd7cc3ff670ba7c4a9aa938&oe=57E75F5F
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Fucking hell, imagine that for a double announcement.
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Says on the BBC gossip page that he is coming in as an assistant manager to Jose Mourinho, and Ryan Giggs is leaving Not sure how reliable that is
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Rumours that Van Gaal is delaying the inevitable by passing sideways from door to door before reaching the exit and turning back for no reason.



One of many fake Zlatan quotes.
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Sam
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Finally.

NYSE: MANU) Louis van Gaal is to leave Manchester United, with immediate effect.

Executive vice chairman Ed Woodward said: "I would like to thank Louis and his staff for their excellent work in the past two years culminating in winning a record-equalling 12th FA Cup for the club (and securing him a title in four different countries). He has behaved with great professionalism and dignity throughout his time here. He leaves us with a legacy of having given several young players the confidence to show their ability on the highest stage. Everyone at the club wishes him all the best in the future."

A decision on a successor as manager will be announced soon.
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LvG Statement:

It has been an honour to manage such a magnificent club as Manchester United FC, and in doing so, I have fulfilled a long-held ambition.

I am immensely proud to have helped United win the FA Cup for the 12th time in the club's history. I have been privileged during my management career to have won 20 trophies but winning the FA Cup, which is steeped in so much history, will always be one of the most special achievements of my career.

I am very disappointed to be unable to complete our intended three-year plan. I believe that the foundations are firmly in place to enable the club to move forward and achieve even greater success.

I hope that winning the FA Cup will give the club a platform to build upon next season to restore the success that this passionate set of fans desire.

Having managed in Holland, Spain and Germany, I had always hoped for the opportunity to manage in English football and be part of English culture. Both of these experiences have lived up to expectations and been fantastic.

I thank my players and wish them well for next season. It has been a pleasure to work with them and it has been particularly rewarding to see so many young players take their chance to break into the first team and excel. I look forward to watching the continued development of these young players next season.

Thank you to the owners and board of Manchester United for giving me the opportunity to manage this great club.

I would also like to express my gratitude to the amazing United supporters. They are truly the best fans in the world.

I am indebted to my support and coaching staff, who have given me their all during their time at the club.

I am deeply grateful to each and every member of the club’s staff - the sports science team, the medical team, the kit and laundry department, club administration, the press office, the manager's team, the Academy team, ground staff and the catering team, both at Old Trafford stadium and Carrington training ground, all of whom have given me their unwavering support in my time at United. Never in my 25 years as a manager have I been so well supported in my role.

Finally, my special thanks go to Sir Alex Ferguson and Sir Bobby Charlton for always making me and my family feel so welcome throughout my time as Manchester United manager.
Ninja
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I like Van Gaal's statement a lot.

Feel sad for him and I still like him. Just didn't work out for him here.
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All things considered I think we've handled this pretty well.
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A very classy statement. He's a good person and he really loved United, it's a shame it didn't work out.

I'm delighted he left winning a trophy too. Enjoy your paradise Louis.
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All things considered I think we've handled this pretty well.

Sounds like you've handled things pretty well behind the scenes, and done an absolute abortion of a job when it comes to managing the press and the public perception of events.
Carroll.
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How in any way, shape or form did you handle this 'pretty well' ?
Ninja
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Sounds like you've handled things pretty well behind the scenes, and done an absolute abortion of a job when it comes to managing the press and the public perception of events.


Despite some City and Liverpool fans accusations we don't control the press. Not much we can do if someone to do with Mendes decides to leak the news after the FA Cup final. We've kept the English media in the dark since December over it

How in any way, shape or form did you handle this 'pretty well' ?


So what should we have done then? Taken out an injunction?

People will say 'oh yeah, he should have been told' but it just doesn't happen. You can't run a multi-million pound business on the principle of doing nothing during the season out of respect and then blindly running around trying to scrape the barrel when you realise you have to sack him, your targets have fucked off elsewhere. Besides, we tried that approach before and ended up with Moyes.
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For a start the whole season he was hounded bout his job, with not much support from the club such as a statement etc. But that's more down to the British media than the club.

But the fact all the press knew he was gone before he did doesn't seem like handling it very well.

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