King Luis
17 years ago
2 months ago
3,111
Well we play with 3 AMC so it makes sense to buy in that position
Ninja
14 years ago
6 years ago
5,341
Surely you can do better than Wijnaldum though?
Shola
16 years ago
5 years ago
2,708
Liverpool are bad at transfers imo.
Based Jorge
10 years ago
4 years ago
1,399
Some gimp on Bluemoon said we're after Jason Denayer now some cunt from the Sun has wrote a story up

This is a geezer who got Cruyff turned by Hal Robson Kanu for fucks sake
Ninja
14 years ago
6 years ago
5,341
Some gimp on Bluemoon said we're after Jason Denayer now some cunt from the Sun has wrote a story up

This is a geezer who got Cruyff turned by Hal Robson Kanu for fucks sake


blue moon have some hilarious ITK (I think it might be the site owner) called tolmie who they all believe, even though he A) doesn't post this things that he definitely knows until after they're in the papers B) is so vague about everything he can pretend to not be wrong and C) is still wrong.

Have a look through some of the shit he posts, its great: http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/search/9905670/
Based Jorge
10 years ago
4 years ago
1,399
Yeah that's the bloke.
Poe
17 years ago
2 days ago
3,675
Well we play with 3 AMC so it makes sense to buy in that position


You've already got 3 AMC's better than Wijnaldum in Coutinho, Firminio and Lallana and are spending 25m to acquire another one.

Doesn't make sense to me.
King Luis
17 years ago
2 months ago
3,111
You've already got 3 AMC's better than Wijnaldum in Coutinho, Firminio and Lallana and are spending 25m to acquire another one.

Doesn't make sense to me.


Ideally they'd be enough but we're bound to get injuries throughout the season so he's going to be solid backup
Poe
17 years ago
2 days ago
3,675
Aye, 25m for a backup player is crazy talk.

Especially when you've just signed Mane who will occupy one of those positions too. He cost about 234m as well didn't he?
Jason
17 years ago
2 months ago
4,635
Why do Liverpool always pay over the top?
Ninja
14 years ago
6 years ago
5,341
Italian Press seems to be running hard with Pogba to United.

Still not convinced its not bullshit, but at least its movement.
Sam
17 years ago
1 year ago
5,092
Good sources on it though, Romano and Di Marzio.

Raiola is going to make like £15-20M out of this deal, he's not having a bad summer.
Eric Portapotty
15 years ago
2 days ago
3,322
Thought Mou will let Mendes have his way with the club's transfers since they've had links and Mou did do him a solid by picking up Falcao.
Surprised that it's Raiola this time round.
Shola
16 years ago
5 years ago
2,708
Elliott
Krul
Selz
Darlow

Anita
Gamez
Janmaat
Mbabu
Sterry

Dummett
Haidara
Gamez
Mbabu

Lascelles
Mbemba
Hanley
Dummett

Tiote
Colback
Sissoko
Wijnaldum
De Jong
Hayden
Gouffran
Saivet
Shelvey

Ritchie
Aarons
Ameobi
Perez
Thauvin

Mitrovic
Gayle
Riviere
Perez
Armstrong

Priorites;
Sell Shelvey
A DM? Depends on how good Hayden is I guess?
Winger - Only Ameobi and Aarons there who play with any width - both normally injured
Another CB would be nice
As would a forward
More midfielders. Shelvey is currently ninth choice, we need more depth.
Ninja
14 years ago
6 years ago
5,341
L'Equipe saying its done.

Christ, surely not?
Poe
17 years ago
2 days ago
3,675
Sell Ameobi, Gouffran and Riviere too - both not good enough unless they're willing to be 3rd/4th choice backup. Gouffran and Riviere might find their level at Championship standard but if we're looking to bounce back first time then they'd need sold next summer anyway, Ameobi only managed 8 starts for a below average Cardiff side last year so might need to drop even further.

We need a left back - Dummett is hopeless and Haidara is even worse - and is injured constantly.

Presuming the 3 are sold that I'd like we'd need 6 signings.

LB
DM
CM
W/F
CB
ST

We're far from the finished article but the way we've handled our business this summer has been way better than in the past and hasn't seemed as scatter gun - although I can't see us making another 6 signings, I think we'll make do without any more centre midfielders/left back which is a worry.
Dan
13 years ago
5 months ago
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Stoke set to pay £13mil for Joe Allen
Carroll.
15 years ago
3 years ago
3,361
Fuck this. Goetze going back to Borussia while we're fucking signing Wijnaldum. Who the fuck signed off on these transfers?
Croy
13 years ago
2 weeks ago
207
Fuck this. Goetze going back to Borussia while we're fucking signing Wijnaldum. Who the fuck signed off on these transfers?


From what I know he didn't want to join us. Why would he come to a foreign country to play at a club with no CL football when he can go back home and play CL football?
Carroll.
15 years ago
3 years ago
3,361
Pretty sure Klopp could have convinced him. My point is more the players were signing.
Ninja
14 years ago
6 years ago
5,341
Pretty sure Klopp could have convinced him. My point is more the players were signing.


I don't think Klopp has anywhere near the pull Liverpool fans hoped/expected he would.

If you look at his transfers at Dortmund though thats not really surprising, it was always a case of getting more out of players than was expected rather than attracting players that Dortmund should not have been able to and the signs have been reasonably encouraging with your lot on that front already. If he can get Mane to perform consistently he'll be one of the best players in the league, I reckon. Similarly, whilst I don't think Wijhnaldum is a particularly inspiring signing, I don't think anyone questions his ability, more his attitude.

The big problem is that Dortmund continued to sign those sort of players after Klopp left, whereas your transfers so far strike suspiciously of the rubbish ones you made under Brendan. I guess we'll find out this season how much of it was down to Klopp at Dortmund and how much was down to the team of people tasked with signing players. Were they simply very good at spotting hidden talent that would have come good anywhere or was it down to Klopp working miracles with them? We'll see.
Carroll.
15 years ago
3 years ago
3,361
I don't think Klopp has anywhere near the pull Liverpool fans hoped/expected he would.

If you look at his transfers at Dortmund though thats not really surprising, it was always a case of getting more out of players than was expected rather than attracting players that Dortmund should not have been able to and the signs have been reasonably encouraging with your lot on that front already. If he can get Mane to perform consistently he'll be one of the best players in the league, I reckon. Similarly, whilst I don't think Wijhnaldum is a particularly inspiring signing, I don't think anyone questions his ability, more his attitude.

The big problem is that Dortmund continued to sign those sort of players after Klopp left, whereas your transfers so far strike suspiciously of the rubbish ones you made under Brendan. I guess we'll find out this season how much of it was down to Klopp at Dortmund and how much was down to the team of people tasked with signing players. Were they simply very good at spotting hidden talent that would have come good anywhere or was it down to Klopp working miracles with them? We'll see.


He's deffinetly got more of a pull than Rodgers had. And I meant more his former players, like Goatze.
I don't necessarily dissagree with you but almost 60 million for Mane and Naldum (if we sign him spelling his name is going to piss me off.. ) stinks a bit. Especially with some of the business done by others.
Franck
17 years ago
3 weeks ago
4,255
The big problem is that Dortmund continued to sign those sort of players after Klopp left

Not really, their first success under Klopp was mostly based on making the most out of players that weren't that highly rated, remember how Lewandowski was originally said to be signing for Blackburn or Genoa for example, but after that first title they have been signing players that other top clubs would want too, the likes of Reus, Aubameyang, and Mkhitaryan all had interest from other top clubs and Gündogan was only a risk because of his injury history.

Klopp wasn't in charge of transfers at Dortmund and I doubt he has full control of them at Liverpool either though.

Either way, if there was anything that Klopp's first success at Dortmund showed it was that you don't need a team of stars to win, you just need players who fit your system and are willing to put down the hard work. From that perspective I think Mane and Wijnaldum might work out very well for Liverpool. They aren't that dissimilar from the type of players he had at Dortmund.
Franck
17 years ago
3 weeks ago
4,255
Speaking of underwhelming transfer windows, it angers me how fucking shit the clubs who should challenge Juventus in Italy are doing, Inter adding Banega was nice but they haven't done a single thing since, Milan have done fuck all and Roma and Napoli are busy making themselves worse. Lazio hiring Bielsa was a sign of hope, but of course they had to fuck that up. The only news coming out of Italy is bad news, like the rumours of Higuain, Bacca and Icardi being sold.
VP.
13 years ago
1 month ago
25,271
Newcastle's squad size is ridiculous, surely you'd need to sell a few before you can even think of signing anyone else.
BR.
17 years ago
2 years ago
1,896
Speaking of underwhelming transfer windows, it angers me how fucking shit the clubs who should challenge Juventus in Italy are doing, Inter adding Banega was nice but they haven't done a single thing since, Milan have done fuck all and Roma and Napoli are busy making themselves worse. Lazio hiring Bielsa was a sign of hope, but of course they had to fuck that up. The only news coming out of Italy is bad news, like the rumours of Higuain, Bacca and Icardi being sold.


Juve are beyond nailed on to win it again this season, to be fair I think regardless of what the others do they'd win it, their squad is ridiculously strong and they've got a good shot at winning the CL I reckon.

Milan's takeover just seems to be dragging on and on but with their current squad they'll have another poor season yeah. Bielsa would have done well at first I reckon but it would have probably fallen apart as it has done previously for him. Have they given it Inzaghi permanently now? If so that's a bit unambitious, there are still good managers out there who'd take the job.

Roma are so much better under Spalletti than Garcia but that won't be enough to properly challenge Juve. (The new Roma away kit is amazing though, in more positive news!)

Higuain, Bacca and Icardi will all still be there come the close of the transfer window I think, can't see any of them moving.
Shedender
17 years ago
2 months ago
13,751
Newcastle's squad size is ridiculous, surely you'd need to sell a few before you can even think of signing anyone else.

Meh, Newcastle always seem to get a fuck load of injuries so a large squad could help.
Shola
16 years ago
5 years ago
2,708
Sell Ameobi, Gouffran and Riviere too - both not good enough unless they're willing to be 3rd/4th choice backup. Gouffran and Riviere might find their level at Championship standard but if we're looking to bounce back first time then they'd need sold next summer anyway, Ameobi only managed 8 starts for a below average Cardiff side last year so might need to drop even further.

We need a left back - Dummett is hopeless and Haidara is even worse - and is injured constantly.

Presuming the 3 are sold that I'd like we'd need 6 signings.

LB
DM
CM
W/F
CB
ST

We're far from the finished article but the way we've handled our business this summer has been way better than in the past and hasn't seemed as scatter gun - although I can't see us making another 6 signings, I think we'll make do without any more centre midfielders/left back which is a worry.


Signing a 4th choice GK. and cast offs from Palace, Bournemouth and a CB who has never been tested properly at PL level. And selling our best player. Wonderful stuff.

Dummett is very good. He didn't have any sort of midfielder in from of him most of the time and still was much, much better than Janmaat was on the other flank. It's a shame for him full backs who know how to defend are out of fashion at the moment. Ameobi has pace and can deliver a ball. Gayle will score loads if Ameobi can be utilised and find form. - A decent manager should be able to coax that.

Using ya Gouff/Riv logic we should sell Richie and Gayle right now.
Number 1
16 years ago
11 months ago
3,650
As far as Liverpool goes, Wijnaldum may well work out if Klopp can figure out his best position, given Newcastle clearly couldn't. Even with the caveat that four of them came in one game, 11 goals in a team that went down despite him never playing more than 5 games in one position and him not doing anything away hints at potential at better. Maybe if someone who knew what he was doing had been appointed last summer instead of McClaren... meh. All in the past now.

Given Ritchie was a Bournemouth first team regular last year and was offered a new deal that he turned down, the term 'cast-off' is a monumental exaggeration at best and inaccurate otherwise. Gayle is an odd one - top scorer every year but CPFC managers seem to prefer the likes of Wickham, Adebayor, Murray, Chamakh or whatever. Guess we'll find out either way, but had a good record at a Peterborough side who went down in his only half-Championship term, so might well work out. Hanley could be interesting, given how much both ways I've heard, but does come with their "Player of the Year" award, so hopefully is more good than bad. He also can't be as shit as Coloccini or Taylor have mostly been for the last 2/3 years.

Some seem to think Gamez is being signed as a left-back and Janmaat is going to be forced to stay. Doubt that, but the idea of signing a right back with Gamez at left and able to switch over if needs be might have some legs. Ameobi was crap at Cardiff according to the locals, so may well be time to look elsewhere. I'd be surprised if Thauvin stayed, mind - not sure he's the answer.

Clearly Gouffran and Riviere don't have people queuing around the block for them. Which seems to indicate people have actually been watching them.
Poe
17 years ago
2 days ago
3,675
Selz will be 1st choice I think. And Bournemouth wanted to keep Ritchie. And Gamez is a good signing

Full backs who can defend are good, ones that can attack too are even better. Dummett can do neither.

Very good is laughable.

And Ameobi is shit. Not good enough. If he could 'deliver a ball' he'd have way more than 8 assists in 93 games.

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