ID 1394631578 and 1394631578 are the same pics but diferent person in DB.

They're the same UID

Ardit Gashi 43270790 - Missing in megapack

Hi mons.

I think the Cut Out pack contains more than 40000 images with IDs that are not (anymore) in FM DB. Naturally having them in provides backwards compatibility and coverage (also I don't know if SI are in habit of bringing back removed players/staff with old IDs), but its still about 2GB worth "redundant" files. Have you ever considered removing at least some of the oldest images with non-existing IDs?

As HR for Romania I can tell you that every year I delete some players/staff from database: some of them died, retired from football, quit playing etc.

But most of them are set as not for extraction (they are still in database, but somehow inactive), and maybe next years I will mark them back as active and they will appear in the game with the same ID.

It works same for the whole database. So now there are players that are not in FM17, but could be back in FM18 or 19 with same ID.

As HR for Romania I can tell you that every year I delete some players/staff from database: some of them died, retired from football, quit playing etc.

But most of them are set as not for extraction (they are still in database, but somehow inactive), and maybe next years I will mark them back as active and they will appear in the game with the same ID.

It works same for the whole database. So now there are players that are not in FM17, but could be back in FM18 or 19 with same ID.

I'm the Maltese researcher, so I know how it works in terms of the database, but I don't know of a way in which it would be possible to identify the UIDs in the megapack which are not in a particular game's database version.

I suppose while the IDs are inactive, they are stored in some sort of master DB and are not present in the game DB that is provided with each copy of FM? Naturally there is a Person Type Retired, but that is possibly a different thing.

A programmer could probably code a nice little application that compares IDs present in the DB to IDs present in the pack, but I have tried to come up with a way to do the same thing by other means (to spot "redundant" logos in the DVX logopack). Perhaps there is a simpler way, but here is what I have been thinking about:

• The IDs of the people in the DB are known, while the IDs of the people not in the DB are not known.
• All the images with a name (ID) that is in the DB, can be renamed with an added indicator. So, if we have an image with an existing ID of 12345, it can be renamed to, say, 12345_infmdb173. The images with name that is not in the DB are not renamed.
• Every image that has ”_infmdb173” in its name is of a person that is in the DB, and conversely every image that does not have have it in its name is of a person that is not in the DB. The "redundant" images have been identified.

To do the above, one needs FM, FM Genie Scout, Bulk Rename Utility and Notepad++ (or another text editor with similar functions). Genie Scout is needed to export Unique IDs to text file, Bulk Rename Utility is needed to rename files en masse, and Notepad++ is needed to massage the Unique ID text file to a format Bulk Rename Utility can use. I can describe the whole procedure in more detail if it is required.

In any case the method does work, but of course there is a question whether Genie Scout actually exports all the IDs (after creating a save with maximum number of players included). Is there a way to export IDs directly from the DB?

At the end of the day, though, is it really worth going to all that trouble just to remove images which may need to be added again at a later date?

Quite apart from the fact that loads of people already have the base megapack images, how would it be possible to remove images from somebody else's computer?

I tested the identification method on the Cut Out Megapack, and it indicated a rather large number of possibly superfluous files. Whether its worth to worry or do anything about is another thing, but I thought it would not hurt to mention it...

Once FM18 is out, I will certainly look to see if the DVX logopack contains logos that have IDs not present in the new DB. If for no other reason than to see what they are (but quite probably to also remove at least some of them).

Naturally the pack would have to be re-released after removing images.

My mistake, the ID are 1394631578 & 1394631579 with the same picture.

There's less churn in terms of logos when compared to players, as proportionally fewer clubs get disbanded than players retire each year.

I'm a bit wary of having separate megapack versions, particularly in terms of technical support matters. Also, you'd be surprised how many people play older FM versions, and removing "archived" person's cuts would have a large impact.

9.07 is now available for download. It contains 2,214 new or improved images and takes the total MP head count to over 184,000.

As usual, this would have been impossible without the contributors of the requesters and especially our cutters. I'd also like to thank @BajaHater who double-checks the images after me. Any mistakes, omissions or oversights are my fault and not his

Nuno Pereira 55081296 image is wrong, it belongs to Petit 4102269

Do you have a Nuno Pereira source perchance?

noticed some mistake in megapck

Philippe Emond (UID18005333) has a wrong picture:

this is the right person

Can you make a request for it and add a comment that it's a mistaken identity?

https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-2017/player/85140264/valentin-kemmo

he has a face of Maxime Lopez from Marseille.