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By duckeggmoon | Permalink | On 13 December 2012 - 18:50 PM
6 of one, half-a-dozen of the other.
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Vidic back in the squad for the game against Sunderland this weekend \o/
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If he's as bad as he was when he came back earlier in the season then I'd rather he stayed off the pitch.

Kagawa back in training, now thats good news.
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By jumberto | Permalink | On 15 December 2012 - 05:21 AM
If he's as bad as he was when he came back earlier in the season then I'd rather he stayed off the pitch.

Kagawa back in training, now thats good news.


I'd say the knee wasn't right in the first place, he didn't seem fully fit to me.
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RVP is still a cunt.
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RVP has always been a cunt.

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Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has accused Tottenham of "blatant manipulation" over the signing of defender Zeki Fryers and wants the Premier League to investigate the deal.

Fryers left United for Standard Liege for a small compensation fee in August, after Spurs baulked at paying £6m.

But now Spurs have signed the 20-year-old from Standard for a reported £3m.

"I'm disappointed in Tottenham. I think it's a blatant manipulation of the situation," said Ferguson.

"I think the league should look into it and I think they should stop his registration until they examine it."

However, United are yet to make a formal complaint to the Premier League, who declined to comment on the matter.

Tottenham told BBC Sport that they only made a second approach for Fryers after being made aware that the player was "homesick" in Belgium.

A Spurs spokesman said: "Zeki enjoyed his time at Standard - however, when Standard sacked their manager in November Zeki wasn't part of the new manager's plans which he accepts and understands happens in football.

"Unfortunately, a combination of this and the fact he had become homesick meant he wanted to return to England.

"His representatives made contact with clubs in England. This afforded us a second opportunity to sign the player and as per Fifa's solidarity contribution mechanism, Manchester United will receive 5% of the transfer fee we have paid."


“There’s nothing we can do about it but we should really register our discontent,” Fergie said. “The registration should be stopped. To me, I think it’s a blatant manipulation of the rules. Tottenham did nothing wrong as he went to Standard Liege. They tried to buy him off us and we’d been looking for a certain figure. They wouldn’t pay it but asked if they could take him down there on trial and, at that time, he was out of contract in June anyway. So he went down on trial and he went to Portugal with them. They then said they weren’t prepared to pay the money and, all of a sudden, he signed for Standard Liege. We knew immediately and suspected that he would return to Tottenham in January and that’s happened.”


Fryers on 03/12/12: It was the right time for me to leave and get experience playing in good league. I made the right decision for me. I think I’m doing well. The Belgian League is different but theres a lot of quality. It has developed some great players. Standard Liege is a top club who want to be in the top 3 every year. The end of the season is the most important period.

Definitely needs investigating.
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A transparently dodgy deal. The irony of Fergie being the one to moan about it, though, is great.
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By duckeggmoon | Permalink | On 04 January 2013 - 23:30 PM
A transparently dodgy deal. The irony of Fergie being the one to moan about it, though, is great.

Fergie doesn't have anything to do with our transfers, apart from identifying targets, it would, therefore, be ironic if Gill was complaining about it.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090720220818/familyguy/images/3/33/Buzz_Killington.jpg

Lets all just bond over how much of a cunt Levy is.
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I just find it amazing that Fryers was 'homesick' despite him saying that he was enjoying life in Belgium only a month ago.
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By Sam | Permalink | On 05 January 2013 - 01:02 AM
I just find it amazing that Fryers was 'homesick' despite him saying that he was enjoying life in Belgium only a month ago.

It'd be perfectly reasonable to assume that he'd put on more of a brave face, so to speak, whilst he was a Standard Liege player, even if he was feeling homesick and wanted to come back to England.
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The thing I don't get about the whole thing is Fryers is such a monumentally average player, why have Spurs gone to all this effort for Fryers of all people?

And he wanted £20,000 a week as well, would be hilarious if they were paying him that.

http://h13.abload.de/img/fryerst2cbf.gif
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By Ninja | Permalink | On 05 January 2013 - 02:34 AM
The thing I don't get about the whole thing is Fryers is such a monumentally average player, why have Spurs gone to all this effort for Fryers of all people?

And he wanted £20,000 a week as well, would be hilarious if they were paying him that.

http://h13.abload.de/img/fryerst2cbf.gif

I'm not one to say, but maybe Tottenham Hotspur's scouting network is better equipped and more qualified to judge a player's future potential than you are.
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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 05 January 2013 - 02:59 AM
I'm not one to say, but maybe Tottenham Hotspur's scouting network is better equipped and more qualified to judge a player's future potential than you are.

Well he's not a shit player, the fact we wanted to keep him until he started being a greedy cunt and that Spurs signed him attest to that but there's little to suggest that he'll be a great player.

I'd be very surprised if he ever became a better player than, say, Danny Simpson and given that Spurs have BAE, Vertonghen, Naughton and Rose (who has by all accounts been excellent on loan at Sunderland) to play in that position it makes it even more pointless.

If I'm being cynical, that gif of him falling over twice will probably be the most memorable thing bout his career.
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By Ninja | Permalink | On 05 January 2013 - 03:15 AM
Well he's not a shit player, the fact we wanted to keep him until he started being a greedy cunt and that Spurs signed him attest to that but there's little to suggest that he'll be a great player.

I'd be very surprised if he ever became a better player than, say, Danny Simpson and given that Spurs have BAE, Vertonghen, Naughton and Rose (who has by all accounts been excellent on loan at Sunderland) to play in that position it makes it even more pointless.

If I'm being cynical, that gif of him falling over twice will probably be the most memorable thing bout his career.

According to whom? You?

As you said, United liked him enough to want to offer him a contract, and now Spurs have gone out of their way to go and sign him for £3m or so. There's obviously some potential there. I don't see how you can say with confidence that he's unlikely to be better than someone like Danny Simpson, or that his career won't ever amount to anything significant. Have you seen one game in which he featured in Belgium?

I've never seen him play but I find it astounding that you're able to criticise him and effectively writing him off at the age of 20 despite having barely ever seen him play. There's a certain arrogance to football fans that leads them to believe their knowledge of a player's ability is just as good, if not greater than professional scouts who are paid a lot of money to spend hours researching these guys. I'm more inclined to believe Spurs, like every big club, have thoroughly researched and weighed up the deal and are more likely to be right in their judgement of his value than some bitter, uninformed United fan.
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Because you've never questioned a signing in your life, right?
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It'll be funny if Levy sues Fergie for his comments.
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Yeah hilarious. What comments could he sue him for exactly? You know the headlines in the papers don't count if Fergie didn't actually say them.

Fergie is absolutely right here and you still would rather side with the chairman of your supposed biggest rivals just because it's Sir Alex.

Imagine if this was happening to a smaller club, they get shafted enough most of the time in these situations but using an overseas team to avoid paying the full compensation fee could really cause problems to a small club who desperately need the money.
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If he's spectacularly average then why are Manchester United demanding £6m for him? And if they rate him at £6m, why are they refusing to pay him what Spurs are willing to?

Manchester United are still the bigger cunts in this.
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Do you actually get off on baiting Utd fans?
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Whether he's a good player or not doesn't matter (though that gif is amazing) it's still shady.

Fryer's inteview last month.

By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 05 January 2013 - 01:34 AM
It'd be perfectly reasonable to assume that he'd put on more of a brave face, so to speak, whilst he was a Standard Liege player, even if he was feeling homesick and wanted to come back to England.


I don't see the point of doing that, why say you're happy when you're not? Surely you'd want to make your feelings known, if it was a few months ago he said that it wouldn't seem so bad. But only a month after saying how happy he is he's able to sort out a deal with Spurs. Spurs being their parent club and a club who tried so desperately to sign him in the summer.

Doesn't add up.

By Shola | Permalink | On 05 January 2013 - 11:04 AM
If he's spectacularly average then why are Manchester United demanding £6m for him? And if they rate him at £6m, why are they refusing to pay him what Spurs are willing to?

Manchester United are still the bigger cunts in this.


Oh deary me.
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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 05 January 2013 - 03:35 AM
According to whom? You?

As you said, United liked him enough to want to offer him a contract, and now Spurs have gone out of their way to go and sign him for £3m or so. There's obviously some potential there. I don't see how you can say with confidence that he's unlikely to be better than someone like Danny Simpson, or that his career won't ever amount to anything significant. Have you seen one game in which he featured in Belgium?

I've never seen him play but I find it astounding that you're able to criticise him and effectively writing him off at the age of 20 despite having barely ever seen him play. There's a certain arrogance to football fans that leads them to believe their knowledge of a player's ability is just as good, if not greater than professional scouts who are paid a lot of money to spend hours researching these guys. I'm more inclined to believe Spurs, like every big club, have thoroughly researched and weighed up the deal and are more likely to be right in their judgement of his value than some bitter, uninformed United fan.

So it was bitter when he was playing for us and no one believed he had a hope and a prayer of making it as a regular at United was it?

Be realistic, United have a lot of players that will move on and have decent Premier League or Championship careers but it's obvious won't have a long term future here. This season alone we've let De Leat, James, Norwood, Jacob and King go. We've let two players go recently that looked good enough to make it at United, Pogba (who we pretty much all knew what went on there) and Morrison whose attitude will probably ever stop him reaching his potential.

We wanted him as a squad player, nothing more, when he left we replaced him with Büttner (I think we might have signed Büttner a couple of days before, which pushed Fryers in to 3rd choice left back territory, possibly 4th, as those who watch the reserves have always rated Blackett higher than him).

If he was as good as you're trying to intimate (which is absolutely ridiculous, because by your own admission you haven't seen him play, so you have absolutely no basis to enter a debate on how good he is) do you not think we'd have paid what he was asking for? After all, he was asking for that sum (£20,000) because that's what we'd offered Pogba, so if we actually had any real belief that he wouldn't have been easily replaceable and actually had any real future at United beyond squad duties I think we might just have paid it.

Of course, your whole argument is ridiculous. Andy Carroll is obviously a £35m player because Liverpool bought him, and they know more than us then? Bebe at £7.5m was an absolute STEAL, everyone that questioned that transfer and was proven right was just lucky? QPR's transfer policy of signing has beens on big wages is enlightened. In fact, why don't we just shut the whole forum down? After all there's no point us discussing anything is there because clubs never make mistakes.
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Have Tottenham broken any rules?
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No (Fergie even said that) but they've clearly used a sneaky system with another club to get him cheap.
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Ferguson shouldn't have bothered saying anything really.

We didn't want to pay Fryers what he wanted, he left and we should move on.
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Off the topic of Fryers and on the topic of Henríquez, who after watching today looks pretty good, but the side he was playing in didn't suit him so he'd look quiet. His only real chance was a header from a set-piece that hit the bar. His general positioning was excellent but he couldn't get the ball due to players crowding the ball carrier and Wigan are shit, he had a bit of an off first touch, but it was his senior debut in England so he'll have time to learn, but he has pace and ability and will try to run at a defender. He looks promising and one to keep an eye on at Wigan, especially when Kone goes to the ACON
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I didn't watch the game, but my brother told me that we were shit. Is he right?

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