Jose1976
5 years ago
7 months ago
4
My assistant manager had 12 for motivating and 15 for man management and every time I took his advice on team talks he could get most of the team's confidence boosted. I decided through the editor to see what difference it would make if he was 20 on both, would he get all the players boosted? Well it turns out that following someone perfect in man management and motivating doesn't improve the confidence of ONE player and i'm almost halfway through a season with this experiment!

What set this experimenting off was constantly dominating games with a front 4 of Mané, Salah, Firmino & Mbappe, hitting 10-15 shots on target at least a game yet losing by one goal when they've had one shot in the entire game. You watch the match engine and half your saved shots were one on one with the keeper by one of 4 of the best players in the game, and this isn't isolated, it's every game! I've heard all the excuses for this, it's my tactics, thats rubbish, my tactics are good enough to dominate possession, keep them to one shot all game , and create 5-6 one on ones a game, the game engine ain't showing exactly what happened, then whats the point of a match engine if what you see you can't do a thing about cause its not whats actually happening. I could understand this if once in a while this happened, I could believe that sometimes a team would sit back, get lucky and score with one shot, but show me where thats happened for an entire season to a team since the beginning of football history. How hard is it to develop this game so that when I lose there is a frigging reason for it and not some shower you can't do a thing about.

Oh and another experiment that shows how messed your game is, ask anyoje, Salah is rubbish as an inside forward even tho an inside forwards instructiuons are exactly what his player traits are. I can help everyone with that, buy the editor and take his player traits off, then he'll play like salah. How pathetic that having the same player traits as the position requires will stunt said player into 6.5 or lower match ratings if you don't have him as a corner taker (which I purposely didn't to take away your get out of jail free card that boosts his rating if he gets an assist
Jose1976
5 years ago
7 months ago
4
increased experiment to staff, perfect scouts are still as hit and miss as the worst, coaches, there's no difference to player growth regardless of difference in star training rating for each coach.

Last match Mbappe had 7, thats right, 7 one on ones with Watfords keeper and scored 1, the other 6 were not just saved, but held, thats how pathetic his shooting is in that situation. And as if even the game itself wants to highlight how its just all random number generated and we're just given the illusion of doing anything, the keeper rated 6.5 even though he only conceeded 2 goals and saved 6 one on ones, not to mention the othere 16 saves he made. 22 shots on target for 2 goals with a front 4 of Shaquiri, Mane, Firmino & Mbappe, what an utter joke! Just to be clear, this isn't isolated, i'm currently over half way through a season with this experiment and it's constant. I'm not changing anything, why would I, the tactic is perfect, the stats besides goals prove that, you CANNOT put players missing sitters down to the tactic and when it happens match after match for half a season so far, it can't be anything other than your game, sort it out si
Crpls
18 years ago
3 months ago
43
Premium
Okay, now repeat this "experiment" thousands of times and get back to me on proving anything.

I mean, in general, I don't think you'll get many arguments about the need to improve things, but claiming you've proven the game is purely random rubbish is asinine.
MKDons666
18 years ago
6 days ago
80
Premium
I do understand your frustration because I feel like that sometimes. It's a bit like when you see their keeper make a couple of saves you know, no matter what happens that match, you wont score.

I'm doing a game with MSK Zilina and I'm having 15 - 20 chances a match getting about 50 to 60% of them on target and sometimes only scoring 1 or 2 goals.

But it's the way the game is.

The game is random otherwise it would be a completely boring and not like football which is, on occasions, completely unpredictable. Look at the Champions League semi-finals and, to an extent, the Spanish Cup final. Valencia got smashed 7-3 on Agg by Arsenal but can beat Barcelona. I doubt Arsenal could beat Barcelona.

It's only a computer game, worse has happened at sea.
Jose1976
5 years ago
7 months ago
4
Okay, now repeat this "experiment" thousands of times and get back to me on proving anything.

I mean, in general, I don't think you'll get many arguments about the need to improve things, but claiming you've proven the game is purely random rubbish is asinine.


Still going as you suggested, midway through 3rd season, nothing has changed, game after game after game, either 20-30 shots on target and either score 1 maybe 2 goals while missing sitter after sitter or not scoring and losing to the only shot on target they have all game. You can stick up for the makers if you like, knock yourself out, but myself, I'd rather a playable game, it's unplayable when all it does is frustrate you and leave you with nothing you can do to change it apart from use the editor to take away player traits which just isn't realistic, but then you can't expect anyone to take the traits away the way they're supposed to as it's like 6 months to remove each trait and Salah for example, needs every trait removing, then Mbappe does too as well as other players who are rendered obsolete by traits.

I'd like to come up against this situation of lots of shots and no goals and be able to change things through a fixable problem, like needing to improve someones finishing, needing to change the tactic to get them shooting inside the box, stop the full backs being too adventerous, out numbered in midfield etc. At the moment what do I change? 2 and half seasons of 5+ clear cut chances a game, 20-30 shots a game, a ton of one on ones a game, what do you do to change that? Is 17 out of 20 for finishing not good enough? Fine it's used in conjunction with others liike composure (18) and off the ball (17) but they're up there with the best so what else? Keeper MotM? Fine, but that's not happening and if that was the actual reason, thats not realistic is it, 38 games a season with 38 keeper MotM?
harvey cooper
3 years ago
1 month ago
1
By Jose1976 24 May 2019 - 18:45 PM UTC 

My assistant manager had 12 for motivating and 15 for man management and every time I took his advice on team talks he could get most of the team's confidence boosted. I decided through the editor to see what difference it would make if he was 20 on both, would he get all the players boosted? Well it turns out that following someone perfect in man management and motivating doesn't improve the confidence of ONE player and i'm almost halfway through a season with this experiment!

What set this experimenting off was constantly dominating games with a front 4 of Mané, Salah, Firmino & Mbappe, hitting 10-15 shots on target at least a game yet losing by one goal when they've had one shot in the entire game. You watch the match engine and half your saved shots were one on one with the keeper by one of 4 of the best players in the game, and this isn't isolated, it's every game! I've heard all the excuses for this, it's my tactics, thats rubbish, my tactics are good enough to dominate possession, keep them to one shot all game , and create 5-6 one on ones a game, the game engine ain't showing exactly what happened, then whats the point of a match engine if what you see you can't do a thing about cause its not whats actually happening. I could understand this if once in a while this happened, I could believe that sometimes a team would sit back, get lucky and score with one shot, but show me where thats happened for an entire season to a team since the beginning of football history. How hard is it to develop this game so that when I lose there is a frigging reason for it and not some shower you can't do a thing about.

Oh and another experiment that shows how messed your game is, ask anyoje, Salah is rubbish as an inside forward even tho an inside forwards instructiuons are exactly what his player traits are. I can help everyone with that, buy the editor and take his player traits off, then he'll play like salah. How pathetic that having the same player traits as the position requires will stunt said player into 6.5 or lower match ratings if you don't have him as a corner taker (which I purposely didn't to take away your get out of jail free card that boosts his rating if he gets an assist 

mate i know this is old, but your tactic must be dogshite

 

 

that1guytim
4 years ago
2 years ago
118
By harvey cooper 10 July 2022 - 17:06 PM UTC 

mate i know this is old, but your tactic must be dogshite

 

Seems a little uncalled for… @monz 

riuzaki
14 years ago
7 months ago
1

I've just ran the team into the ground with physical training all week all three slots, started the game with reserve gk as dmc strikers as CDs etc, team morale is abysmal, and I won against the Wolves 5-0 with instant result option, I want my money baaaack!!!!! 

kingrobbo
15 years ago
1 hour ago
11,545
By riuzaki 17 May 2024 - 20:34 PM UTC 

I've just ran the team into the ground with physical training all week all three slots, started the game with reserve gk as dmc strikers as CDs etc, team morale is abysmal, and I won against the Wolves 5-0 with instant result option, I want my money baaaack!!!!! 

 

The game is nowhere near as good as it could/should be. it is flawed on many levels but it is what it is  

as regards the above take it up with SI ….good luck 

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