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If you are playing an FM23 save in FM24, then this fix needs to be also installed in the below folders:

 

If you have any issues, first read the FAQ.

 

This file will need to be re-applied if/when official patches/updates are released to ensure full compatibility. This is due to the fact that some files which are removed when installing this file are automatically re-installed by Steam when official patches come out.
 

Some of these changes, ESPECIALLY THE CLUB NAMES, do NOT apply in existing save-games. There's a workaround for that in the first post.

 

The sortitoutsi real names fix changes the instances of fake names in Football Manager 2024 to the proper, real life names for awards, cities, stadiums and competitions, in cases where the actual name is not licensed, such as  Premier League displaying instead of Premier Division. It will also fix the fact that the German National team doesn't call up real players. These fixes are all fully save-game compatible.
 

The following are not included in the beta version of this file. There is also a club name changes file, which changes the names of clubs in a way which ensures that any nicknames entered in the default database are retained. This file includes the proper names for Brazilian, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian (including Napoli) and French clubs, as well as Manchester Utd, to circumvent licensing restrictions. It also adds real-life media and journalists, encompassing most major footballing nations and continents. Brazilian clubs' text colours are also changed through an editor data file. Another editor data file creates the Ajax non-playing staff missing from the database due to licensing restrictions. Finally, it includes a small file which corrects the 3-Letter competition names to correspond with any changes made in the lnc files. For all the files in this paragraph to work, however, you will need to start a new game.

 

Follow the below instructions to install this version of this file

 

STEP 1.

If you are playing an FM23 save in FM24, then this fix needs to be also installed in the folders in the below image IN ADDITION TO THOSE INDICATED BELOW the image:


OPEN 

Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Football Manager 2024\data\database\db\2400


DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders
 

OPEN 

Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Football Manager 2024\data\database\db\2430


DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders

 

Notes: \Program Files (x86)\ could be \Program Files\ depending on your set up.

 

Equivalent folders for PC players on Gamepass

PC players on Gamepass

 

I am led to understand that mods are enabled by default this year, so nothing needs to be done other than the below

 

OPEN 

Xboxgames\Football Manager 2024\data\database\db\2400
 

DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders

 

OPEN 

Xboxgames\Football Manager 2024\data\database\db\2430
 

DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders

 

Equivalent folders for PC players on Epic Games

Epic Games Installation


OPEN 

Program Files (x86)\Epic Games\FootballManager2024\data\database\db\2400


DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders


OPEN 

Program Files (x86)\Epic Games\FootballManager2024\data\database\db\2440


DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders

 

Notes: \Program Files (x86)\ could be \Program Files\ depending on your set up.

 

Equivalent folders for Mac users

Mac installation

 

OPEN 

/ Users / username / Library / Application Support / Steam / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2024 / data / database / db / 2400 
 

DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders

 

OPEN 

/ Users / username / Library / Application Support / Steam / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2024 / data / database / db / 2440 
 

DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders

 

The easiest way to get to these folders is by going to Finder > Go > Go to Folder and copy and paste these exact paths and you will be taken to the right places  ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Football Manager 2024/data/database/db/2400/

 

Alternatively you can get to the Library folder by simply selecting Go from the top bar and holding "alt" key - The Library folder suddenly appears on the drop down menu

 

For Mac Lion users, the Library folder will be hidden. Use this link to find out how to show it.

 

For those struggling to find the Steam and Steam Apps folder etc using Mac with the new OS High Sierra, this link below shows how you can unhide your Library folder which will then let you find the other folders.

 

Equivalent folders for Mac players on Epic Games

Epic Games Installation


OPEN 

MAC HD > Users> Shared > Epic Games > Football Manager 2024 > datadatabasedb2400


DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders


OPEN 

MAC HD > Users> Shared > Epic Games > Football Mnaager 2024 > datadatabasedb2440


DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders

 

 

The easiest way to get to these folders is by going to Finder, scroll up to Locations and navigate to this section.

 

 

Equivalent folders for Xbox players on Gamepass

Xbox on Gamepass installation

 

OPEN 

navigate to drive it was installed in (C: or D🙂

Xboxgames>Football manager 2024>content>data>database>db>2400

 

OPEN 

navigate to drive it was installed in (C: or D🙂

Xboxgames>Football manager 2024>content>data>database>db>2430

 

DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders

 

If you can't find where your Xboxgames folder is, you can find it by clicking on “More actions” button (three dots that appears when you move your mouse cursor over Football Manager 2024 on Xbox app), then “Manage” → “Files” tab → “Browse…” button.

 

Equivalent folders for FM TOUCH 24 on Mac users

FM TOUCH 24 Mac Os installation

 

OPEN 

/ Applications / fm.app / Contents / Resources / data / database / db / 2400
 

DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders

 

OPEN 

/ Applications / fm.app / Contents / Resources / data / database / db / 2430
 

DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders

 

Equivalent folders for Steam Deck users

Steam Deck installation

 

if game is store on external micro SD card

OPEN 

devices / rootfs / run / media / mmcblk0p1 / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2024 / data / database / db / 2400 
 

DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders

 

OPEN 

devices / rootfs / run / media / mmcblk0p1 / steamapps / common / Football Manager 2024 / data / database / db / 2430 
 

DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders

 

if game is stored on internal storage

OPEN 

devices / home / deck / .local / share / Steam / steamapps / compatdata / 2252570 / pfx / drive_c / users / steamuser / My Documents / Sports Interactive / Football Manager 2024 / editor data


DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders

 

OPEN 

devices / home / deck / .local / share / Steam / steamapps / compatdata / 2252570 / pfx / drive_c / users / steamuser / My Documents / Sports Interactive / Football Manager 2024 / editor data


DELETE only the dbc , edt and lnc folders

 

STEP 2:
COPY the dbc, edt and lnc folders from the downloaded pack 

STEP 3: 
PASTE them into each of your respective folders mentioned in step 1.

 

These are what the respective folder structures should look like in the 2430 folder:

 

dbc: 

 

dbc/permanent: 

 

edt/permanent: 

 

lnc: 

 

STEP 4:
COPY the 9 files located in the EDITOR DATA FILES folder in the downloaded pack

 

STEP 5
PASTE to \Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2024\editor data

 

This is also the same folder to be used for Gamepass.

 

Equivalent folder for Mac

Users/YOUR Mac USERNAME/Library/Application Support/Sports Interactive

By default this folder is hidden, so to access you need to do as follows:

Open Finder
Click ‘Go’ from the menubar
Press and hold down the ‘Option’ (Alt) key
This will bring up the ‘Library’, click to enter then go to ‘Application Support’ -> ‘Sports Interactive’ -> ‘Football Manager 2024’

 

Equivalent folder for Steam Deck

devices / home / deck / .local / share / Steam / steamapps / compatdata / 1904540 / pfx / drive_c / users / steamuser / My Documents / Sports Interactive / Football Manager 2024 / editor data

 

Equivalent folder for Epic Games

/Users / [your user] / Library / Sports Interactive / Football Manager 2024 / editor data

 

This should be what your editor data folder looks like now. There may initially be a config.xml file in this folder and it can be safely overwritten; it is generated by FM every time the game starts.

 

 

To make sure the files have been applied correctly, go to English Premier Division in your saved game, and it should be renamed to Premier League. If you are in the middle of a save-game when you install this download, German national teams will be populated in the next instance that players are called up, and not immediately. 
 

Club names are only changed if you apply the editor data files before starting a new game. For a workaround if you've already started a new save-game, then please read the opening post of this thread.

 

The final version of this download for the default database can be downloaded from here.

Comments
nasco36
13 years ago
1 month ago
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By mons 20 December 2023 - 13:16 PM UTC 

I suspect you're only seeing the sponsor-free names in European competitions, which is part of the licensing agreement SI have with UEFA, I believe.

 

thanks for the answer: so you mean is correct that i read the names in pictures attachment and not the original? is a license champions league problem?

mons
18 years ago
8 hours ago
91,481

 

These fixes are are all in this download, so it looks like you may not have installed it correctly.

 

Can I have a screenshot of your 2400/lnc folder?

nasco36
13 years ago
1 month ago
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By mons 20 December 2023 - 14:14 PM UTC 

 

These fixes are are all in this download, so it looks like you may not have installed it correctly.

 

Can I have a screenshot of your 2400/lnc folder?

 

 

3 folders in first picture

editor data in second one

 

 

mons
18 years ago
8 hours ago
91,481
By nasco36 20 December 2023 - 14:24 PM UTC 
 

 

Can you please include your comments outside the quote box, not inside?

 

All seems fine in those screenshots. Must just be a licensing thing then.

nasco36
13 years ago
1 month ago
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By mons 20 December 2023 - 14:32 PM UTC 

Can you please include your comments outside the quote box, not inside?

 

All seems fine in those screenshots. Must just be a licensing thing then.

 

 

 

ok, so how can i solve? is necessary to verify the integrity of the game on steam?

mons
18 years ago
8 hours ago
91,481
By nasco36 20 December 2023 - 14:37 PM UTC 

ok, so how can i solve? is necessary to verify the integrity of the game on steam?

 

There's nothing to solve 😕

nasco36
13 years ago
1 month ago
23
By mons 20 December 2023 - 14:48 PM UTC 

There's nothing to solve 😕

 

is a general issue or what? i dont understand why for the first time after lot of years i have this bug in game. look these pictures: first one in premier the name is emirates. in the second one the name is arsenal stadium. 

mons
18 years ago
8 hours ago
91,481
By nasco36 20 December 2023 - 17:17 PM UTC 

is a general issue or what? i dont understand why for the first time after lot of years i have this bug in game. look these pictures: first one in premier the name is emirates. in the second one the name is arsenal stadium. 

 

I already explained it's a licensing issue related to how sponsored stadiums display in European competitions and which cannot be changed. There's not much else to say.

cameosis
17 years ago
12 minutes ago
251

@mons 

 

the correct spelling for

#"CLUB_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24016568 "NK Mladost Varazdin" ""
#"CLUB_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24016568 "Mladost Varazdin" ""
 

is "NK Mladost Varaždin" and "Mladost Varaždin", respectively

 

there is also an inconsistency with the short name in this case:

#"CLUB_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 1105977 "NK Croatia Đakovo" ""
#"CLUB_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 1105977 "Croatia (Đ)" ""
 

it should be "Croatia Đakovo" instead to align with the rest of the short names, although it’s actually the correct way to abbreviate the club name (club name and initial of the locality it represents) and used in croatian media.

 

#"CLUB_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24043154 "NK Potpićan - Učka 72" ""
#"CLUB_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24043154 "Potpićan - Učka" ""
 

short name is "Potpićan"

 

#"CLUB_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 912 "Eintracht Frankfurt" ""
#"CLUB_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 912 "Eintracht Frankfurt" ""

#"CLUB_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 3607261 "Eintracht Frankfurt II" ""
#"CLUB_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 3607261 "Eintracht Frankfurt II" ""
 

short name is "Eintracht", not "Eintracht Frankfurt" - i had already pointed it out previously and referred to the official website:

https://sortitoutsi.net/comments/get/749251

https://www.eintracht.de/

 

#"CLUB_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 930 "FSV Frankfurt" ""
#"CLUB_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 930 "FSV Frankfurt" ""
#"CLUB_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 91013553 "FSV Frankfurt II" ""
#"CLUB_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 91013553 "FSV Frankfurt II" ""
 

short name is just "Frankfurt"

 

#"CLUB_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5341645 "Kampala City Council FC" ""
#"CLUB_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5341645 "KCC" ""
 

both incorrect. the club’s name is "Kampala Capital City Authority Football Club" - short name is "KCCA FC"

https://www.kccafc.co.ug/

 

cheers

mons
18 years ago
8 hours ago
91,481
By cameosis 21 December 2023 - 09:13 AM UTC 

@mons 

 

the correct spelling for

#"CLUB_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24016568 "NK Mladost Varazdin" ""
#"CLUB_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24016568 "Mladost Varazdin" ""
 

is "NK Mladost Varaždin" and "Mladost Varaždin", respectively

 

It's true there is an entry in the lnc file without the diacritic, but there's also one further down in the same file with it, as well as in the editor data file, so this actually already displays correctly in-game. I've removed the surplus line from the file for the avoidance of doubt 😉

 

 

By cameosis 21 December 2023 - 09:13 AM UTC 

there is also an inconsistency with the short name in this case:

#"CLUB_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 1105977 "NK Croatia Đakovo" ""
#"CLUB_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 1105977 "Croatia (Đ)" ""
 

it should be "Croatia Đakovo" instead to align with the rest of the short names, although it’s actually the correct way to abbreviate the club name (club name and initial of the locality it represents) and used in croatian media.

 

That's precisely why it's included in that format within the download, though 😕

 

 

 

By cameosis 21 December 2023 - 09:13 AM UTC 

#"CLUB_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24043154 "NK Potpićan - Učka 72" ""
#"CLUB_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24043154 "Potpićan - Učka" ""
 

short name is "Potpićan"

 

 

#"CLUB_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5341645 "Kampala City Council FC" ""
#"CLUB_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5341645 "KCC" ""
 

both incorrect. the club’s name is "Kampala Capital City Authority Football Club" - short name is "KCCA FC"

https://www.kccafc.co.ug/

 

Added 🍻

 

 

 

By cameosis 21 December 2023 - 09:13 AM UTC 

#"CLUB_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 912 "Eintracht Frankfurt" ""
#"CLUB_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 912 "Eintracht Frankfurt" ""

#"CLUB_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 3607261 "Eintracht Frankfurt II" ""
#"CLUB_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 3607261 "Eintracht Frankfurt II" ""
 

short name is "Eintracht", not "Eintracht Frankfurt" - i had already pointed it out previously and referred to the official website:

https://sortitoutsi.net/comments/get/749251

https://www.eintracht.de/

 

#"CLUB_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 930 "FSV Frankfurt" ""
#"CLUB_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 930 "FSV Frankfurt" ""
#"CLUB_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 91013553 "FSV Frankfurt II" ""
#"CLUB_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 91013553 "FSV Frankfurt II" ""
 

short name is just "Frankfurt"

 

You will notice that I changed the names in the file from last year, following your feedback. It is however a bit confusing (to the common user) for the lower-division team to be named as Frankfurt, and not the Bundesliga team from the same city. As a compromise, I have given the short name for both to be the same as the long name, so there is no doubt which is which.

 

And to be honest, providing a matchday programme from 56 years ago by way of evidence is not necessarily a reflection of the modern-day situation…

xbenjaminx
1 year ago
28 minutes ago
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Premium

I know this is mostly focused around competitions and clubs, but is there any way that currency name can be manipulated. I can add a new currency and set the exchange rate, but I can't name it so I'm wondering if it can be done either through this or through some other kind of workaround. At the moment it just does the thing where you type anything and it reverts back to default (or blank if it's new)

mons
18 years ago
8 hours ago
91,481
By xbenjaminx 21 December 2023 - 10:16 AM UTC 

I know this is mostly focused around competitions and clubs, but is there any way that currency name can be manipulated. I can add a new currency and set the exchange rate, but I can't name it so I'm wondering if it can be done either through this or through some other kind of workaround. At the moment it just does the thing where you type anything and it reverts back to default (or blank if it's new)

 

Not that I know of, no.

cameosis
17 years ago
12 minutes ago
251

@mons 

 

in the section

 

## AFRICAN CLUB COMPETITIONS CHANGES

 

you have

# African Cup Winners' Cup

as the header for the CAF Confederation Cup

 

it should be

# African Confederation Cup

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 8351374 "Kupa e Shqipërisë" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 8351374 "Kupa e Shqipërisë" ""
 

short name is just "kupa"

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 8351454 "Superkupa Shqiptare" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 8351454 "Superkupa" ""
 

correct long name is "Superkupa e Shqipërisë"

https://fshf.org/sq/tag/superkupa-e-shqiperise/

 

croatian competitions need a major overhaul, orthography, grammar and other errors are present, together with league inaccuracies:

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 2000005623 "Treća Liga NL" ""

 

"Liga" has to be removed → NL stands for "Nogometna liga", thus you have redundancy.

alternatively, "Treća nogometna liga", but not as it is now → applies to all the divisions where the same error is present.

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 661721 "Treća Liga NL - Istok" ""

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 661724 "Treća Liga NL - Jug" ""

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 661722 "Treća Liga NL - Zapad" ""

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 2000005495 "Treća Liga NL - Centar" ""

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 2000122195 "Treća Liga NL - Sjever" ""

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129648 "SuperSport Hrvatski Kup" ""

 

correct long name is "SuperSport Hrvatski nogometni kup" (also note the different capitalization)

https://hns.family/vijesti/27270/poznati-svi-cetvrtfinalisti-supersport-hrvatskog-nogometnog-kupa/

 

correct short name is "HNK"

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 130934 "SuperSport Superkup" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 130934 "Hrvatski Superkup" ""
 

correct long name is "SuperSport Hrvatski nogometni superkup" (also note the different capitalization) → see official match report

https://hns.family/files/documents/24429/Parovi,suci,delegat-SUPERKUP%202022%20doc.pdf

 

correct short name is "HSK"

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129647 "Prva Županijska Liga" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 129647 "1. ŽNL" ""
 

this is a generic entry in the database, it was called »lower league« in previous iterations → 1. ŽNL doesn’t apply, since it refers to a specific league level.

 

correct long name is "Niža nogometna liga" (lower football league), correct short name is "NNL".

alternatively, "Županijska nogometna liga" (county football league) and "ŽNL".

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000258 "Prva ŽNL Središte/NS Zagreb" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000258 "1. ŽNL Središte/NS Zagreb" ""
 

no such league → it’s a mashup of the 4. NL Središte Zagreb with the term for "county league" (see correction above) → the 4. NL Središte Zagreb (which in reality is level 05 of the croatian football pyramid) is an INTER-COUNTY lague and consists of two groups (A and B).

the highest COUNTY league is the JŽNL, or "Jedinstvena županijska nogometna liga" (unified county league / one-division county league) → short name is "JŽNL".

https://ns-vrbovec.hr/natjecanja/

 

the in-game football manager divisions don’t correlate with real-world leagues on the lower levels (inter-county leagues have been omitted), thus the generic term "county league" would be the best fit.

another reason why "1. ŽNL" should be avoided is that some counties only have one county league, there are no tiers:

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000266 "Prva ŽNL Ličko-Senjska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000266 "1. ŽNL Ličko-Senjska" ""
 

no such league, only "ŽNL Ličko-senjska"

https://nogometnisavezlsz.hr/natjecanja/

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000278 "Prva Zagrebačka liga" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000278 "1. Zagrebačka liga" ""
 

correct long name is "Prva Zagrebačka nogometna liga" → official city fa bulletin

https://zns.hr/images/zns/sluzbeno-glasilo/2023/Nogomet_br.25_2023.pdf

 

correct short name is "1. ZNL"

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000262 "Prva ŽNL Varaždinska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000262 "1. ŽNL Varaždinska" ""
 

the league above the 1. ŽNL is called "Elitna županijska nogometna liga", which would be the correct name if you want to stick to specific tiers of single-county leagues. the correct short name is "EŽNL"

https://zns-varazdin.hr/download/adresar-klubova-zns-varazdin-elitna-znl-2023-24/

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000277 "Prva ŽNL Međimurska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000277 "1. ŽNL Međimurska" ""

https://mns.hr/1-mnl/

 

no such league, the corresponding level is called "Prva međimurska nogometna liga", or "1. MNL" for short. however, here too there is a league ranked above, called "Međimurska premier liga", or "MPL" for short.

https://mns.hr/premier-liga/

 

lastly, the u-19 junior competition has been removed from football manager for whatever reason, but it’s not an extinct competition → it’s called "Prva nogometna liga - Juniori", or "1. NL Juniori", now:

https://hns.family/files/documents/28769/16.KOLO%20-%20JU.pdf

 

the U-19 suffix doesn’t exist in the original name, but you have to be familiar with croatian youth categories to know which are which:

juniori - U-19

https://hnl.hr/natjecanja/juniori/

kadeti - U-17

https://hnl.hr/natjecanja/kadeti/

pioniri - U-15

https://hnl.hr/natjecanja/pioniri/

 

that was a load … cheers.

cameosis
17 years ago
12 minutes ago
251
By mons 21 December 2023 - 09:43 AM UTC 

That's precisely why it's included in that format within the download, though 😕

 

 

You will notice that I changed the names in the file from last year, following your feedback. It is however a bit confusing (to the common user) for the lower-division team to be named as Frankfurt, and not the Bundesliga team from the same city. As a compromise, I have given the short name for both to be the same as the long name, so there is no doubt which is which.

 

And to be honest, providing a matchday programme from 56 years ago by way of evidence is not necessarily a reflection of the modern-day situation…

 

a) that’s perfectly fine with me either way, i just pointed out the inconsistency in the naming scheme – the majority of the other clubs have basically their full name in the “short name” entry without the NK (croatian for FC), except for croatia đakovo and one or two others.

 

b) as to eintracht, i did post the club’s official web presence, too – the url is as clear as it gets.

to be honest, i don’t recall when the rechristening caught on, it has mostly been pushed by british media. in germany, it’s common to refer to clubs with the city they represent, with munich being the notable exception, who has successfully managed to brand itself as “bayern”. i understand that it may be confusing, but those are the correct short names for the two respective clubs, and it’s actually confusing to locals like me when eintracht is referred to as "frankfurt" only, knowing that there is another club with that name actually – two as a matter of fact: 1. fc frankfurt

https://www.fcfrankfurt.de/

 

a club who had its heyday in the former gdr, it’s even a different city in eastern germany. there is a bizarre episode with a benfica fan who wanted to attend a europa league match between benfica and eintracht, but ended up in frankfurt (oder) … of course he should have done his research before setting off, but it’s a case in point how detrimental incorrect naming can be:

https://talksport.com/football/529808/benfica-fan-wrong-frankfurt-europa-league/

 

the equivalent would be calling celtic “glasgow” or any of the london clubs simply “london”. but long story short, it’s all good at the end of the day.

mons
18 years ago
8 hours ago
91,481
By cameosis 21 December 2023 - 11:15 AM UTC 

@mons 

 

in the section

 

## AFRICAN CLUB COMPETITIONS CHANGES

 

you have

# African Cup Winners' Cup

as the header for the CAF Confederation Cup

 

it should be

# African Confederation Cup

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 8351374 "Kupa e Shqipërisë" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 8351374 "Kupa e Shqipërisë" ""
 

short name is just "kupa"

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 8351454 "Superkupa Shqiptare" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 8351454 "Superkupa" ""
 

correct long name is "Superkupa e Shqipërisë"

https://fshf.org/sq/tag/superkupa-e-shqiperise/

 

croatian competitions need a major overhaul, orthography, grammar and other errors are present, together with league inaccuracies:

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 2000005623 "Treća Liga NL" ""

 

"Liga" has to be removed → NL stands for "Nogometna liga", thus you have redundancy.

alternatively, "Treća nogometna liga", but not as it is now → applies to all the divisions where the same error is present.

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 661721 "Treća Liga NL - Istok" ""

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 661724 "Treća Liga NL - Jug" ""

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 661722 "Treća Liga NL - Zapad" ""

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 2000005495 "Treća Liga NL - Centar" ""

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 2000122195 "Treća Liga NL - Sjever" ""

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129648 "SuperSport Hrvatski Kup" ""

 

correct long name is "SuperSport Hrvatski nogometni kup" (also note the different capitalization)

https://hns.family/vijesti/27270/poznati-svi-cetvrtfinalisti-supersport-hrvatskog-nogometnog-kupa/

 

correct short name is "HNK"

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 130934 "SuperSport Superkup" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 130934 "Hrvatski Superkup" ""
 

correct long name is "SuperSport Hrvatski nogometni superkup" (also note the different capitalization) → see official match report

https://hns.family/files/documents/24429/Parovi,suci,delegat-SUPERKUP%202022%20doc.pdf

 

correct short name is "HSK"

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129647 "Prva Županijska Liga" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 129647 "1. ŽNL" ""
 

this is a generic entry in the database, it was called »lower league« in previous iterations → 1. ŽNL doesn’t apply, since it refers to a specific league level.

 

correct long name is "Niža nogometna liga" (lower football league), correct short name is "NNL".

alternatively, "Županijska nogometna liga" (county football league) and "ŽNL".

All these have been corrected 🍻

 

 

By cameosis 21 December 2023 - 11:15 AM UTC 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000258 "Prva ŽNL Središte/NS Zagreb" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000258 "1. ŽNL Središte/NS Zagreb" ""
 

no such league → it’s a mashup of the 4. NL Središte Zagreb with the term for "county league" (see correction above) → the 4. NL Središte Zagreb (which in reality is level 05 of the croatian football pyramid) is an INTER-COUNTY lague and consists of two groups (A and B).

the highest COUNTY league is the JŽNL, or "Jedinstvena županijska nogometna liga" (unified county league / one-division county league) → short name is "JŽNL".

https://ns-vrbovec.hr/natjecanja/

 

Can you tell me exactly what this entry should be then? It's good you're giving me a thorough explanation of your workings, but ideally I'd have a clear before and after text 😉

 

 

By cameosis 21 December 2023 - 11:15 AM UTC 

the in-game football manager divisions don’t correlate with real-world leagues on the lower levels (inter-county leagues have been omitted), thus the generic term "county league" would be the best fit.

another reason why "1. ŽNL" should be avoided is that some counties only have one county league, there are no tiers:

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000266 "Prva ŽNL Ličko-Senjska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000266 "1. ŽNL Ličko-Senjska" ""
 

no such league, only "ŽNL Ličko-senjska"

https://nogometnisavezlsz.hr/natjecanja/

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000278 "Prva Zagrebačka liga" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000278 "1. Zagrebačka liga" ""
 

correct long name is "Prva Zagrebačka nogometna liga" → official city fa bulletin

https://zns.hr/images/zns/sluzbeno-glasilo/2023/Nogomet_br.25_2023.pdf

 

correct short name is "1. ZNL"

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000262 "Prva ŽNL Varaždinska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000262 "1. ŽNL Varaždinska" ""
 

the league above the 1. ŽNL is called "Elitna županijska nogometna liga", which would be the correct name if you want to stick to specific tiers of single-county leagues. the correct short name is "EŽNL"

https://zns-varazdin.hr/download/adresar-klubova-zns-varazdin-elitna-znl-2023-24/

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000277 "Prva ŽNL Međimurska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000277 "1. ŽNL Međimurska" ""

https://mns.hr/1-mnl/

 

no such league, the corresponding level is called "Prva međimurska nogometna liga", or "1. MNL" for short. however, here too there is a league ranked above, called "Međimurska premier liga", or "MPL" for short.

https://mns.hr/premier-liga/

 

lastly, the u-19 junior competition has been removed from football manager for whatever reason, but it’s not an extinct competition → it’s called "Prva nogometna liga - Juniori", or "1. NL Juniori", now:

https://hns.family/files/documents/28769/16.KOLO%20-%20JU.pdf

 

the U-19 suffix doesn’t exist in the original name, but you have to be familiar with croatian youth categories to know which are which:

juniori - U-19

https://hnl.hr/natjecanja/juniori/

kadeti - U-17

https://hnl.hr/natjecanja/kadeti/

pioniri - U-15

https://hnl.hr/natjecanja/pioniri/

 

that was a load … cheers.

 

Thanks for all the above but I'm still not sure which UID should be named what.

 

Here's the most recent file after all the above proposed changes have been applied.

 

If there are any changes you think should be made, please post just those competitions in the below format - and removing any entries which are already correct. Please don't post the whole thing again 👍

 

#Croatia
#thanks to Qvordrup and dispatch and PzSniper and cameosis for some changes
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129645 "SuperSport HNL" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 129645 "HNL" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129646 "SuperSport Prva NL" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 129646 "1. NL" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 145436 "SuperSport Druga NL" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 145436 "2. NL" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 2000005623 "Treća NL" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 2000005623 "3. NL" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 661721 "Treća NL - Istok" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 661721 "3. NL Istok" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 661724 "Treća NL - Jug" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 661724 "3. NL Jug" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 661722 "Treća NL - Zapad" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 661722 "3. NL Zapad" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 2000005495 "Treća NL - Centar" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 2000005495 "3. NL Centar" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 2000122195 "Treća NL - Sjever" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 2000122195 "3. NL Sjever" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129648 "SuperSport Hrvatski kup" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 129648 "Hrvatski kup" ""
"COMP_3LETTER_NAME_CHANGE" 129648 "HNK" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 130934 "SuperSport Hrvatski superkup" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 130934 "Hrvatski superkup" ""
"COMP_3LETTER_NAME_CHANGE" 130934 "HsK" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129647 "Niža nogometna liga" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 129647 "NNL" ""
"COMP_3LETTER_NAME_CHANGE" 129647 "NNL" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000258 "Niža NL Središte/NS Zagreb" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000258 "NNL Središte/NS Zagreb" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000259 "Niža NL Krapinsko-Zagorska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000259 "NNL Krapinsko-Zagorska" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000260 "Niža NL Sisačko-Moslavačka" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000260 "NNL Sisačko-Moslavačka" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000261 "Niža NL Karlovačka" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000261 "NNL Karlovačka" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000262 "Elitna županijska NL" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000262 "EŽNL" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000263 "Niža NL Koprivničko-Križevačka" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000263 "NNL Koprivničko-Križevačka" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000264 "Niža NL Bjelovarsko-Bilogorska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000264 "NNL Bjelovarsko-Bilogorska" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000265 "Niža NL Primorsko-Goranska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000265 "NNL Primorsko-Goranska" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000266 "Niža NL Ličko-Senjska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000266 "NNL Ličko-Senjska" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000267 "Niža NL Virovitičko-Podravska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000267 "NNL Virovitičko-Podravska" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000268 "Niža NL Požeško-Slavonska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000268 "NNL Požeško-Slavonska" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000269 "Niža NL Brodsko-Posavska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000269 "NNL Brodsko-Posavska" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000270 "Niža NL Zadarska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000270 "NNL Zadarska" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000271 "Niža NL Osječko-Baranjska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000271 "NNL Osječko-Baranjska" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000272 "Niža NL Šibensko-Kninska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000272 "NNL Šibensko-Kninska" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000273 "Niža NL Vukovarsko-Srijemska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000273 "NNL Vukovarsko-Srijemska" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000274 "Niža NL Splitsko-Dalmatinska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000274 "NNL Splitsko-Dalmatinska" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000275 "Niža NL Istarska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000275 "NNL Istarska" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000276 "Niža NL Dubrovačko-Neretvanska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000276 "NNL Dubrovačko-Neretvanska" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000277 "Niža NL Međimurska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000277 "NNL Međimurska" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000278 "Prva Zagrebačka NL" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000278 "1. ZNL" ""
#extinct competitions
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129988 "Druga Hrvatska Liga Jug" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 129988 "2. HNL Jug" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129987 "Druga Hrvatska Liga Sjever" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 129987 "2. HNL Sjever" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24008173 "Četvrta HNL - jug A" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24008173 "4. HNL - jug A" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24008172 "Četvrta HNL - jug B" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24008172 "4. HNL - jug B" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24016699 "Četvrta HNL - jug C" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24016699 "4. HNL - jug C" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 661723 "Četvrta HNL - sjever A" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 661723 "4. HNL - sjever A" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 661725 "Četvrta HNL - središte B" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 661725 "4. HNL - središte B" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 661363 "Prva B HNL" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 661363 "Prva B HNL" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129755 "Treća Hrvatska Liga Sjever" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 129755 "3. HNL Sjever" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129756 "Treća Hrvatska Liga Jug" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 129756 "3. HNL Jug" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129757 "Treća Hrvatska Liga Istok" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 129757 "3. HNL Istok" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129758 "Treća Hrvatska Liga Zapad" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 129758 "3. HNL Zapad" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129759 "Treća Hrvatska Liga Srednja" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 129759 "3. HNL Srednja" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000526 "Četvrta HNL - središte A" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000526 "4. HNL - središte A" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000527 "Četvrta HNL - sjever B" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000527 "4. HNL - sjever B" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24008173 "Četvrta HNL - jug A" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24008173 "4. HNL - jug A" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24008172 "Četvrta HNL - jug B" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24008172 "4. HNL - jug B" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24016699 "Četvrta HNL - jug C" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24016699 "4. HNL - jug C" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24055211 "Prva HNL Junior Under-19" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24055211 "Prva HNL Junior U-19" ""

 

 

By cameosis 21 December 2023 - 11:34 AM UTC 

a) that’s perfectly fine with me either way, i just pointed out the inconsistency in the naming scheme – the majority of the other clubs have basically their full name in the “short name” entry without the NK (croatian for FC), except for croatia đakovo and one or two others.

 

b) as to eintracht, i did post the club’s official web presence, too – the url is as clear as it gets.

to be honest, i don’t recall when the rechristening caught on, it has mostly been pushed by british media. in germany, it’s common to refer to clubs with the city they represent, with munich being the notable exception, who has successfully managed to brand itself as “bayern”. i understand that it may be confusing, but those are the correct short names for the two respective clubs, and it’s actually confusing to locals like me when eintracht is referred to as "frankfurt" only, knowing that there is another club with that name actually – two as a matter of fact: 1. fc frankfurt

https://www.fcfrankfurt.de/

 

a club who had its heyday in the former gdr, it’s even a different city in eastern germany. there is a bizarre episode with a benfica fan who wanted to attend a europa league match between benfica and eintracht, but ended up in frankfurt (oder) … of course he should have done his research before setting off, but it’s a case in point how detrimental incorrect naming can be:

https://talksport.com/football/529808/benfica-fan-wrong-frankfurt-europa-league/

 

the equivalent would be calling celtic “glasgow” or any of the london clubs simply “london”. but long story short, it’s all good at the end of the day.

 

I see what you mean but the way they are named now makes it clear which of the 3 clubs is which, both in short and long names. The smaller Frankfurt club is in fact the final entry in the list 😉

cameosis
17 years ago
12 minutes ago
251

@mons the reason i posted all the info is to a) clarify why and what is wrong and b) that what i'm saying is sourced.

 

of course i can just post the uids with the corrections if you prefer that. i just wanted to avoid the impression that my corrections are personal preference or claims without sources.

 

regarding the croatian lower leagues, fm lumps clubs from different leagues of the county into their respective game »regional league«.

do you want the name of the highest league in each county (in which many of these clubs don't play) or the generic term for the respective league, which would better reflect si's decision? let me know.

 

on another note, i don't play the game - too busy working on graphics add-ons for the game, which means i can't verify/check stuff in-game, only in the lnc files.

 

if something i post in the future is correct in-game, just disregard it.

mons
18 years ago
8 hours ago
91,481
By cameosis 21 December 2023 - 19:06 PM UTC 

regarding the croatian lower leagues, fm lumps clubs from different leagues of the county into their respective game »regional league«.

do you want the name of the highest league in each county (in which many of these clubs don't play) or the generic term for the respective league, which would better reflect si's decision? let me know

 

Given you're more of a expert on this than me, I'll trust your judgement and name them whichever way you think best reflects the FM world 👍

 

Oh, and I know what you mean, I haven't even played FM for a couple of years now too.

cameosis
17 years ago
12 minutes ago
251

ok, in front of my desktop pc and i can see how all the info i posted led to a misunderstanding.

 

you have double entries in the #extinct_competitions section – i will do two separate posts to address this.

 

the following additions and corrections should be made (active competitions):

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129648 "SuperSport Hrvatski nogometni kup" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 130934 "SuperSport Hrvatski nogometni superkup" ""
"COMP_3LETTER_NAME_CHANGE" 130934 "HSK" "" <- (all capital letters)
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000258 "Županijska nogometna liga Zagrebačke županije" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000258 "ŽNL NSZGŽ" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000259 "Županijska nogometna liga Krapinsko-zagorska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000259 "ŽNL NSKZŽ" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000260 "Županijska nogometna liga Sisačko-moslavačka" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000260 "ŽNL NSSMŽ" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000261 "Županijska nogometna liga Karlovačka" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000261 "ŽNL NSKŽ" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000262 "Županijska nogometna liga Varaždinska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000262 "ŽNL ŽNSVŽ" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000263 "Županijska nogometna liga Koprivničko-križevačka" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000263 "ŽNL NSKCKŽ" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000264 "Županijska nogometna liga Bjelovarsko-bilogorska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000264 "ŽNL NSBBŽ" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000265 "Županijska nogometna liga Primorsko-goranska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000265 "ŽNL NSPGŽ" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000266 "Županijska nogometna liga Ličko-senjska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000266 "ŽNL NSLSŽ" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000267 "Županijska nogometna liga Virovitičko-podravska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000267 "ŽNL ŽNSVPŽ" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000268 "Županijska nogometna liga Požeško-slavonska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000268 "ŽNL NSPSŽ" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000269 "Županijska nogometna liga Brodsko-posavska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000269 "ŽNL ŽNSBPŽ" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000270 "Županijska nogometna liga Zadarska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000270 "ŽNL NSZDŽ" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000271 "Županijska nogometna liga Osječko-baranjska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000271 "ŽNL ŽNSOB" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000272 "Županijska nogometna liga Šibensko-kninska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000272 "ŽNL NSŠK" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000273 "Županijska nogometna liga Vukovarsko-srijemska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000273 "ŽNL ŽNSVS" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000274 "Županijska nogometna liga Splitsko-dalmatinska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000274 "ŽNL NSŽSD" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000275 "Županijska nogometna liga Istarska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000275 "ŽNL NSŽI" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000276 "Županijska nogometna liga Dubrovačko-neretvanska" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000276 "ŽNL ŽNSDN" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000277 "Međimurska nogometna liga" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000277 "MNL MNS" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000278 "Zagrebačka nogometna liga" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000278 "ZNL ZNS" ""
 

cameosis
17 years ago
12 minutes ago
251

the following additions and corrections should be made (extinct competitions) ← just replace the entire section with the following, i have included a couple competitions that were not there previously, but are present in the fm24 database:

 

#extinct competitions
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 661363 "Prva hrvatska nogometna liga B" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 661363 "1. HNL B" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 661719 "Druga hrvatska nogometna liga - Istok" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 661719 "2. HNL Istok" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129988 "Druga hrvatska nogometna liga - Jug" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 129988 "2. HNL Jug" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129987 "Druga hrvatska nogometna liga - Sjever" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 129987 "2. HNL Sjever" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 661720 "Druga hrvatska nogometna liga - Središte" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 661720 "2. HNL Središte" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 661546 "Druga hrvatska nogometna liga - Zapad" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 661546 "2. HNL Zapad" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24008173 "Četvrta hrvatska nogometna liga - Jug A" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24008173 "4. HNL Jug A" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24008172 "Četvrta hrvatska nogometna liga - Jug B" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24008172 "4. HNL Jug B" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24016699 "Četvrta hrvatska nogometna liga - Jug C" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24016699 "4. HNL Jug C" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 661723 "Četvrta hrvatska nogometna liga - Sjever A" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 661723 "4. HNL Sjever A" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000527 "Četvrta hrvatska nogometna liga - Sjever B" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000527 "4. HNL Sjever B" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24000526 "Četvrta hrvatska nogometna liga - Središte A" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24000526 "4. HNL Ssredište A" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 661725 "Četvrta hrvatska nogometna liga - Središte B" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 661725 "4. HNL Središte B" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129755 "Treća hrvatska nogometna liga - Sjever" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 129755 "3. HNL Sjever" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129756 "Treća hrvatska nogometna liga - Jug" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 129756 "3. HNL Jug" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129757 "Treća hrvatska nogometna liga - Istok" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 129757 "3. HNL Istok" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129758 "Treća hrvatska nogometna liga - Zapad" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 129758 "3. HNL Zapad" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 129759 "Treća hrvatska nogometna liga - Središte" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 129759 "3. HNL Središte" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 149250 "Treća hrvatska nogometna liga - Regija Jug" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 149250 "3. HNL RJ" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 149251 "Treća hrvatska nogometna liga - Regija Sjever" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 149251 "3. HNL RS" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 2000005494 "Četvrta hrvatska nogometna liga - Istok/Jugozapad" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 2000005494 "4. HNL Istok JZ" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 2000005493 "Četvrta hrvatska nogometna liga - Istok/Sjeveroistok" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 2000005493 "4. HNL Istok SI" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 24055211 "Prva hrvatska nogometna liga - Juniori" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 24055211 "1. HNL U-19" ""

cameosis
17 years ago
12 minutes ago
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if you have any questions, let me know.

 

also, in case this slipped under the rug → the following additions and corrections should be made:

 

#"CLUB_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5341645 "Kampala Capital City Authority FC" ""
#"CLUB_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5341645 "KCCA FC" ""
 

https://www.kccafc.co.ug/

mons
18 years ago
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Thanks for that @cameosis. The Kampala fix got added earlier 😉

 

I'm not a big fan of adding nogometna in there to be perfectly honest. It's football, and I reckon it's a bit tautologous imo…

cameosis
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By mons 21 December 2023 - 21:32 PM UTC 

Thanks for that @cameosis. The Kampala fix got added earlier 😉

 

I'm not a big fan of adding nogometna in there to be perfectly honest. It's football, and I reckon it's a bit tautologous imo…

 

oh, don’t get me started on that, sometimes i wonder if people take a moment to think what the initials actually stand for when they decide on names …

 

on the other hand, those are the actual and mostly official league names - if you applied this to all the leagues across the game, there wouldn’t be much »football« left in there (english football league, anyone?) and we’d be in fictional name territory again. 😁 there are also other sports leagues which carry a league name without the »football« part, that’s another issue. of course, basketball, handball et al aren’t in a game called »football manager«, but still. over time, you’ll notice i’m a completist generously feeding my ocd pet and obsession over minute details. 💀

 

but either way, they’re just suggestions for correcting name entries, you decide which to pick and which to leave out.

cameosis
17 years ago
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the following additions and corrections should be made → the entire section needs to be replaced due to spelling and grammatical errors and one factual error.

i have added the names in the then-official languages, given that it was a multinational/multiethnic state

 

#Yugoslavia
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5792232 "Prva savezna nogometna liga SFRJ" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5792232 "1. SNL SFRJ" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5792232 "Prva savezna liga SFRJ u fudbalu" "Serbian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5792232 "1. SFL SFRJ" "Serbian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5792232 "Prva zvezna nogometna liga SFRJ" "Slovenian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5792232 "1. ZNL SFRJ" "Slovenian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5792232 "Prva sojuzna fudbalska liga na SFRJ" "Macedonian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5792232 "1. SFL SFRJ" "Macedonian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5792232 "Liga e Parë federale e futbollit e RSFJ" "Albanian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5792232 "L1FF RSFJ" "Albanian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5792232 "JSSK elsőosztályú szövetségi labdarúgó-bajnokság" "Hungarian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5792232 "JSSK SZLB 1" "Hungarian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5792233 "Druga savezna nogometna liga SFRJ" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5792233 "2. SNL SFRJ" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5792233 "Druga savezna liga SFRJ u fudbalu" "Serbian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5792233 "2. SFL SFRJ" "Serbian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5792233 "Druga zvezna nogometna liga SFRJ" "Slovenian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5792233 "2. ZNL SFRJ" "Slovenian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5792233 "Vtora sojuzna fudbalska liga na SFRJ" "Macedonian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5792233 "2. SFL SFRJ" "Macedonian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5792233 "Liga e Dytë federale e futbollit e RSFJ" "Albanian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5792233 "L2FF RSFJ" "Albanian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5792233  "JSSK másodosztályú szövetségi labdarúgó-bajnokság" "Hungarian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5792233 "JSSK SZLB 2" "Hungarian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5792234 "Nogometni kup SFRJ Maršala Tita" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5792234 "Kup Maršala" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5792234 "Kup SFRJ u fudbalu Maršala Tita" "Serbian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5792234 "Kup Maršala" "Serbian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5792234 "Nogometni pokal SFRJ Maršala Tita" "Slovenian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5792234 "Pokal Maršala" "Slovenian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5792234 "Fudbalski kup na SFRJ na Maršal Tito" "Macedonian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5792234 "Kup na Maršal" "Macedonian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5792234 "Kupa e futbollit e RSFJ Marshall Tito" "Albanian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5792234 "Kupa Marshall" "Albanian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 5792234 "JSSK Tito Marsall-labdarúgó-kupa" "Hungarian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 5792234 "Marsall-kupa" "Hungarian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 2000015124 "Nogometni superkup SFRJ" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 2000015124 "JSK" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 2000015124 "Superkup SFRJ u fudbalu" "Serbian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 2000015124 "JSK" "Serbian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 2000015124 "Nogometni superpokal SFRJ" "Slovenian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 2000015124 "SPJ" "Slovenian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 2000015124 "Fudbalski superkup na SFRJ" "Macedonian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 2000015124 "SKJ" "Macedonian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 2000015124 "Superkupa e Futbollit e RSFJ" "Albanian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 2000015124 "SKJ" "Albanian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 2000015124 "JSSK labdarúgó-szuperkupa" "Hungarian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 2000015124 "JSZK" "Hungarian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 62246551 "Druga savezna nogometna liga SFRJ - Skupina Istok" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 62246551 "2. SNL SFRJ Istok" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 62246551 "Druga savezna liga SFRJ u fudbalu - Istočna grupa" "Serbian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 62246551 "2. SFL SFRJ Istok" "Serbian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 62246551 "Druga zvezna nogometna liga SFRJ - Skupina Vzhod" "Slovenian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 62246551 "2. ZNL SFRJ Vzhod" "Slovenian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 62246551 "Vtora sojuzna fudbalska liga na SFRJ - Grupa Istok" "Macedonian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 62246551 "2. SFL SFRJ Istok" "Macedonian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 62246551 "Liga e Dytë federale e futbollit e RSFJ - Grupi Lindor" "Albanian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 62246551 ""L2FF RSFJ Lindja" "Albanian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 62246551 "JSSK másodosztályú szövetségi labdarúgó-bajnokság - Keleti csoport" "Hungarian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 62246551 "JSSK SZLB 2 Kelet" "Hungarian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 62246552 "Druga savezna nogometna liga SFRJ - Skupina Zapad" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 62246552 "2. SNL SFRJ Zapad" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 62246552 "Druga savezna liga SFRJ u fudbalu - Zapadna grupa" "Serbian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 62246552 "2. SFL SFRJ Zapad" "Serbian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 62246552 "Druga zvezna nogometna liga SFRJ - Skupina Zahod" "Slovenian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 62246552 "2. ZNL SFRJ Zahod" "Slovenian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 62246552 "Vtora sojuzna fudbalska liga na SFRJ - Grupa Zapad" "Macedonian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 62246552 "2. SFL SFRJ Zapad" "Macedonian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 62246552 "Liga e Dytë federale e futbollit e RSFJ - Grupi Perëndimor" "Albanian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 62246552 "L2FF RSFJ Perëndimi" "Albanian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 62246552 "JSSK másodosztályú szövetségi labdarúgó-bajnokság - Nyugati csoport" "Hungarian"
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 62246552 "JSSK SZLB 2 Nyugat" "Hungarian"
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 64019248 "Nogometna liga SR Slovenije" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 64019248 "NL SRSLO" ""
 

cameosis
17 years ago
12 minutes ago
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the following additions and corrections should be made →

 

#San Marino

#extinct competitions
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 43032015 "Campionato Sammarinese Serie A2" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 43032015 "CSM A2" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 60021349 "Trofeo Federico e Paolo Crescentini" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 60021349 "Trofeo Crescentini U-21" ""
 

cameosis
17 years ago
12 minutes ago
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the following additions and corrections should be made →

 

"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 1301385 "WM" "German"

https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/kommentar-wm-vergabe-fifa-oeffnet-saudi-arabien-tuer-100.html

 

weltmeisterschaft should be substituted in all german entries with wm, following the same rule for europameisterschaft / em (already in the file from what i saw skimming through it) - unless you want to add it as a 3-letter-code entry instead.

 

"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 1301385 "Mondiale" "Italian"

https://www.gazzetta.it/calcio/coppa-mondo-club/14-03-2023/mondiali-2026-nuova-formula-cambia-anche-calendario-nazionali-460661884159.shtml

 

mondiali should be substituted in all italian entries with mondiale. another source:

https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/it/articles/mondiale-u-17-dodici-giovani-talenti-che-hanno-brillato-in-indonesia

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 1301385 "Copa Mundial de la FIFA" "Spanish"

"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 1301385 "Mundial" "Spanish"

https://www.marca.com/futbol/mundial.html

 

mons
18 years ago
8 hours ago
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All Yugoslav entries added 🍻

 

 

By cameosis 23 December 2023 - 06:31 AM UTC 

the following additions and corrections should be made →

 

#San Marino

#extinct competitions
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 43032015 "Campionato Sammarinese Serie A2" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 43032015 "CSM A2" ""
"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 60021349 "Trofeo Federico e Paolo Crescentini" ""
"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 60021349 "Trofeo Crescentini U-21" ""
 

 

The first comp isn't extinct yet as far as I can tell, but both added too 👍

 

 

 

By cameosis 23 December 2023 - 07:04 AM UTC 

the following additions and corrections should be made →

 

"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 1301385 "WM" "German"

https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/kommentar-wm-vergabe-fifa-oeffnet-saudi-arabien-tuer-100.html

 

weltmeisterschaft should be substituted in all german entries with wm, following the same rule for europameisterschaft / em (already in the file from what i saw skimming through it) - unless you want to add it as a 3-letter-code entry instead.

 

"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 1301385 "Mondiale" "Italian"

https://www.gazzetta.it/calcio/coppa-mondo-club/14-03-2023/mondiali-2026-nuova-formula-cambia-anche-calendario-nazionali-460661884159.shtml

 

mondiali should be substituted in all italian entries with mondiale. another source:

https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/it/articles/mondiale-u-17-dodici-giovani-talenti-che-hanno-brillato-in-indonesia

 

"COMP_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 1301385 "Copa Mundial de la FIFA" "Spanish"

"COMP_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 1301385 "Mundial" "Spanish"

https://www.marca.com/futbol/mundial.html

 

EM and WM added as 3 letter names

 

Mondiale isn't the exact term used in Italian, which I speak. Both terms are in fact used in the Gazzetta article you linked to, in fact. I'm happy with Mondiale as it stands.

 

Added the Spanish one too 👍

cameosis
17 years ago
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By mons 23 December 2023 - 11:31 AM UTC 

The first comp isn't extinct yet as far as I can tell, but both added too 👍

 

 

Mondiale isn't the exact term used in Italian, which I speak. Both terms are in fact used in the Gazzetta article you linked to, in fact. I'm happy with Mondiale as it stands.

 

you mean you’re happy with »mondiali« 😂 - »mondiale« was my change suggestion, hehe. the gazzetta header was a bit inept in that regard, they used mondiali in reference to more than one wc (both national team and club), but it’s fine with me either way. 👍

 

as to san marino, they have only one tier now for »regular« football:

https://www.fsgc.sm/campionato-sammarinese/#tab-id-2

 

serie a2 was abolished in 1996. futsal on the other hand seems to have two tiers and several groups:

https://www.sanmarinoacademy.sm/table/serie-a2-girone-a-2022-23/

 

i will eventually have a look at spanish names for international comps, but i didn’t want to spend all day sifting through entries. XD cheers

mons
18 years ago
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By cameosis 23 December 2023 - 13:44 PM UTC 

you mean you’re happy with »mondiali« 😂 - »mondiale« was my change suggestion, hehe. the gazzetta header was a bit inept in that regard, they used mondiali in reference to more than one wc (both national team and club), but it’s fine with me either way. 👍

 

as to san marino, they have only one tier now for »regular« football:

https://www.fsgc.sm/campionato-sammarinese/#tab-id-2

 

serie a2 was abolished in 1996. futsal on the other hand seems to have two tiers and several groups:

https://www.sanmarinoacademy.sm/table/serie-a2-girone-a-2022-23/

 

i will eventually have a look at spanish names for international comps, but i didn’t want to spend all day sifting through entries. XD cheers

 

Oh yeah, it's Mondiali I meant 🤦🏼‍♂️

 

Ah, I see where the confusion on this one was. 43032015 is the UID of the Sanmarinese top tier. The A2 competition has the UID of 60024420.

 

I don't think renaming international comps in Spanish too is warranted tbph, but if you want to give it a go - just type the codes you want to add, for me to copy-paste them into the right place 👍

cameosis
17 years ago
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By mons 23 December 2023 - 16:01 PM UTC 

Ah, I see where the confusion on this one was. 43032015 is the UID of the Sanmarinese top tier. The A2 competition has the UID of 60024420.

 

ah crap, that error must have crept in when i copied and pasted several times. i have a some different naming formats for the database version i started building but wanted to keep it consistent with yours. good thing you spotted it! 👍

pereiraagb
4 years ago
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Little error in France lower leagues:

"CLUB_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 85036458 "RC Paris" ""

"CLUB_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 85036458 "RC Paris" "French"

 

"CLUB_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 85036458 "Racing Club de France" ""

"CLUB_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 85036458 "Racing CF" ""

"CLUB_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 85036458 "Racing Club de France" "French"

"CLUB_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 85036458 "Racing CF" "French"

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