Footygamer
18 years ago
9 hours ago
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Alot of people use the guides and graphics sections of the site to quickly find ID's for nations, competitions, teams and people in Football Manager. However this isn't the intended purpose of those pages and this task can sometimes be slow or cumbersome.

 

So i've spent some time putting together https://fmref.com/ to help people quickly and easily lookup IDs.

 

It's designed to be quick to use with results appearing instantly (if you have a fast enough connection) and no need for a mouse with a few easy to use shortcuts letting you search, navigate and copy ID's to your clipboard.

 

I'm open to adding new features if people have some suggestions but advanced searching for things like “Left Backs with expiring contracts” will not go in as this will significantly impact the speed and cost of the application.

 

Right now it does a query on every single keystroke, for some people with poorer connections this may not be ideal, i'm waiting on feedback before implementing any improvements in this area.

 

I hope to use what i've learned developing this to improve the quick search found around the site when adding data update submissions and other areas.

 

I'm going to tag some people who I can see in the logs search alot so they see this and hopefully give some feedback 🙂

 

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Lebohang Mokoena
18 years ago
1 hour ago
15,161

I found a funny bug, you can't use the letter c on the search bar. Maybe because is used to copy IDs?

Footygamer
18 years ago
9 hours ago
472,525

Whoops just shows you shouldn't be lazy with your testing. Fixed now 🙂

Copywriter
15 years ago
5 hours ago
2,437

First i was confused, but after i used it  i think it is a great option. Thanks. 

kb1000
11 years ago
1 day ago
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The tool is really useful- thank you.

Will post feedback when it arises.

 

 

cameosis
17 years ago
50 minutes ago
265

@Footygamer wow, so far it looks brilliant, the search results are a lot better 🔥

team 932 should be updated (and its second team) in the database - they are kickers offenbach (full name offenbacher fc kickers 1901), but kickers is not included as their name, only offenbach (see their logo, too).

 

awesome, thanks! will do more testing later.

Footygamer
18 years ago
9 hours ago
472,525

Thanks @cameosis that sounds like it would be a job for the real name fix which @mons usually handles

mons
18 years ago
4 hours ago
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By cameosis 06 May 2024 - 14:00 PM UTC 

@Footygamer wow, so far it looks brilliant, the search results are a lot better 🔥

team 932 should be updated (and its second team) in the database - they are kickers offenbach (full name offenbacher fc kickers 1901), but kickers is not included as their name, only offenbach (see their logo, too).

 

awesome, thanks! will do more testing later.

 

By Footygamer 07 May 2024 - 04:23 AM UTC 

Thanks @cameosis that sounds like it would be a job for the real name fix which @mons usually handles

 

Will make sure to fix it for the next release of the fix, which will probably now be for FM25.

Minderline10
8 months ago
1 day ago
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Good evening. Can you add the sénégalese lower division with the name “Les Férus de Foot” in Sortitoutsi site ?

 

Footygamer
18 years ago
9 hours ago
472,525

@Minderline10  Are they in FM? Can you give their Unique ID from FM?

cameosis
17 years ago
50 minutes ago
265

@Footygamer  is it possible to add certain categories that can be selected as search filters?

 

for example, say i wanted to lookup all the ids of officials/referees from kazakhstan.

 

would adding a dropdown menu where you can select the role (player, nonplayer, official) and nation of an individual or group of people you want to look up be feasible or would it be too much work / slow down the the search significantly? thanks in any case 👍🏿

 

i mean specifically only the categories and roles above, no position on the field or contract details.

i had mentioned in the pdf thread that this would unearth the search results for people who are free agents / without a contract in the db.

Minderline10
8 months ago
1 day ago
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By Footygamer 07 May 2024 - 23:29 PM UTC 

@Minderline10  Are they in FM? Can you give their Unique ID from FM?

 

 

cameosis
17 years ago
50 minutes ago
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By Minderline10 09 May 2024 - 14:35 PM UTC 

https://www.transfermarkt.pe/academie-les-ferus-du-foot/startseite/verein/116342

 

what footygamer means is if the club is included in the game database with a unique id. a listing on another website like transfermarkt won’t help much.

Lebohang Mokoena
18 years ago
1 hour ago
15,161

It seems that officials doesn't appear 

 

https://fmref.com/official/85133471

wfm18
6 years ago
1 day ago
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It is pretty fast and responsive, nice!

xbenjaminx
1 year ago
7 hours ago
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Premium

This is pretty good. Just out of interest, is there a way to bulk search for UIDs? 

I am working on python scripts to sort my graphics folders out but when I can find the occasional list of UIDs I need, there are often some that aren't on there, so being able to quickly bulk search would be useful?

Footygamer
18 years ago
9 hours ago
472,525

@xbenjaminx  Not at the moment, i'm struggling to think how that would work from a UI perspective. Would you expect a textbox with ID's separated by comma, space or carriage return and then what would the result be? If you put in 1000 would you expect 1000 results unpaginated in the same way they are presented now, or in some other way?

xbenjaminx
1 year ago
7 hours ago
160
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Yeah kind of. Basically one of the other games I played (Trainz) has an index website that allows you to look up missing files (trainzkuidindex) and basically it allows me to put in whatever KUIDs I want and it will bring me up any results if there are any. I can't remember if there's an upwards limit on the number per time as my sub to that site expired a good couple of years ago.

That being said, your site is pretty useful. At the moment it's helping me rename around 4000 files although progress is going slow (hence hoping for bulk) - my only other suggestion possibly (if you're taking suggestions) is clicking into the record could bring us to the profile page on here?

Either way I really like what you've done

Footygamer
18 years ago
9 hours ago
472,525

Clicking on a record such as division or team brings up children of that record which i think makes the most sense, clicking on something with no children such as a person, stadium or official isn't that useful you're right but i'm not sure linking to here is the right answer. I was thinking about adding copy and pasteable XML config lines or something like that possibly.

cameosis
17 years ago
50 minutes ago
265

@Footygamer i wanted to ask you for a feature implementation, provided it is feasible - and give you some background info beforehand:

 

i research match officials / referees and their ids currently, in order to source portraits for them.

 

as an example, i pick a certain country and then go through all the competitions to see which referees are listed and which ones are missing portraits, like so:

 

germany - bundesliga:

https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/browse/1/272

 

the officials for the competition are listed underneath the participating clubs.

 

the problem arises when there are officials who have not been assigned to any competitions, like in these two cases:

 

zambia - premier league:

https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/browse/1/728

 

there are no officials listed. however, if i enter either the name diana chikotesha or her id 2000291847, i get a hit, including a portrait. she is listed with no competitions (she’s an active fifa, caf and pl referee).

https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/browse/1/1613152/timeline

https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager/official/2000291847/diana-chikotesha

 

andorra - first division:

https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/browse/1/1401

 

only mário daniel ribeiro novo (id 95080046) is listed for any of the andorran competitions, but there are eight andorran match officials in the database - i’ll add two for demonstration purposes:

https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/browse/1/1345207/timeline

https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager/official/95059519/luis-miguel-do-nascimiento-teixeira

 

https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/browse/1/1347776/timeline

https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager/official/95059523/marta-san-juan-casado

 

is it possible to add a search option for referees by nation in order to show all the referees included in the database, say i want to see all mexican or zambian referees, even if they are not linked to any competitions? a user told me that there is a total of 300+ mexican referees alone, to give you an idea.

 

genie scout does not have the same search option for officials as it has for players and staff, unfortunately, which means that i cannot extract the ids and instead have to rely on combining the portrait browser and fmref, but it’s impossible to close gaps that way when it’s based on guessing the names.

FMStrawzy
3 years ago
1 hour ago
2,224
By cameosis 21 December 2024 - 00:25 AM UTC 

@Footygamer i wanted to ask you for a feature implementation, provided it is feasible - and give you some background info beforehand:

 

i research match officials / referees and their ids currently, in order to source portraits for them.

 

as an example, i pick a certain country and then go through all the competitions to see which referees are listed and which ones are missing portraits, like so:

 

germany - bundesliga:

https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/browse/1/272

 

the officials for the competition are listed underneath the participating clubs.

 

the problem arises when there are officials who have not been assigned to any competitions, like in these two cases:

 

zambia - premier league:

https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/browse/1/728

 

there are no officials listed. however, if i enter either the name diana chikotesha or her id 2000291847, i get a hit, including a portrait. she is listed with no competitions (she’s an active fifa, caf and pl referee).

https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/browse/1/1613152/timeline

https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager/official/2000291847/diana-chikotesha

 

andorra - first division:

https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/browse/1/1401

 

only mário daniel ribeiro novo (id 95080046) is listed for any of the andorran competitions, but there are eight andorran match officials in the database - i’ll add two for demonstration purposes:

https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/browse/1/1345207/timeline

https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager/official/95059519/luis-miguel-do-nascimiento-teixeira

 

https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/browse/1/1347776/timeline

https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager/official/95059523/marta-san-juan-casado

 

is it possible to add a search option for referees by nation in order to show all the referees included in the database, say i want to see all mexican or zambian referees, even if they are not linked to any competitions? a user told me that there is a total of 300+ mexican referees alone, to give you an idea.

 

genie scout does not have the same search option for officials as it has for players and staff, unfortunately, which means that i cannot extract the ids and instead have to rely on combining the portrait browser and fmref, but it’s impossible to close gaps that way when it’s based on guessing the names.

this would be a better feature on sortitoutsi.net rather than fmref.com no?

 

cameosis
17 years ago
50 minutes ago
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By FMStrawzy 21 December 2024 - 01:51 AM UTC 

this would be a better feature on sortitoutsi.net rather than fmref.com no?

 

i don’t disagree, i’d appreciate it wherever it is easier or possible to implement.

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