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By Slashman X | Permalink | On 15 November 2012 - 12:58 PM
It was 3 great goals, not just 1 good goal

But the argument against Zlatan has always been he's an excellent player who's never shown it on the highest level, you'd have to be seriously deluded to think that the team England put out yesterday made that game anything close to the highest level. I don't think anyones ever thought he was a bad player outright.

And I really don't think anything other than his 4th was particularly special. Horrific defending for his first, a good chest and powerful volley which Hart should have done better with for his second and a freekick that shouldn't have gone in. They were decent, but hardly 'great'.
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The reason the English media didn't rate him that much was purely on his performances against English teams in the CL I believe.
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By Ninja | Permalink | On 15 November 2012 - 13:03 PM
I don't think anyones ever thought he was a bad player outright.

I dunno, I've heard so many people say he's shit over the last few years.

The other funny thing is if he'd scored that goal against another national team, most of the media/public here wouldn't have even seen it or be going on about it like they are.
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Zlatan vs Henrik?
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By Carroll. | Permalink | On 16 November 2012 - 16:53 PM
Zlatan vs Henrik?

Henrik.
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The squad to face Brazil has been announced.

Goalkeepers: Jack Butland, Joe Hart

Defenders: Leighton Baines, Gary Cahill, Ashley Cole, Phil Jagielka, Glen Johnson, Joleon Lescott, Chris Smalling, Kyle Walker

Midfielders: Michael Carrick, Tom Cleverley, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, Aaron Lennon, James Milner, Leon Osman, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Theo Walcott, Jack Wilshere

Forwards: Jermain Defoe, Wayne Rooney, Daniel Sturridge, Daniel Welbeck

Disappointed that Hooper didn't get a look-in, and I'm confused as to why Hodgson's only called up two goalkeepers rather than choosing Forster as well.

EDIT: Ah, Forster's injured. Forgot about that. Ruddy too.
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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 31 January 2013 - 14:08 PM
The squad to face Brazil has been announced.

Disappointed that Hooper didn't get a look-in, and I'm confused as to why Hodgson's only called up two goalkeepers rather than choosing Forster as well.

EDIT: Ah, Forster's injured. Forgot about that. Ruddy too.


Why is Lescott in the team hasn't he been on the bench recently, surely Jones should be ahead of him, he's been fantastic since coming back
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A real pity Hooper doesnt get a chance. I rate him very highly and i think he is better than Defoe and Wellbeck atm.
Is he eligible to play for scotland after all?
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By JCash3000 | Permalink | On 31 January 2013 - 22:15 PM
A real pity Hooper doesnt get a chance. I rate him very highly and i think he is better than Defoe and Wellbeck atm.
Is he eligible to play for scotland after all?

Not by blood i don't think and considering the shit that one of the Scotland managers got a few years ago for thinking of bringing in a player who had no Scottish blood but had got citizenship, i doubt they would let him. I believe Nacho Novo was the player in question
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By zeonflux | Permalink | On 31 January 2013 - 22:13 PM
Why is Lescott in the team hasn't he been on the bench recently, surely Jones should be ahead of him, he's been fantastic since coming back

Stupid.
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By duckeggmoon | Permalink | On 31 January 2013 - 22:32 PM
Stupid.

How's it stupid?
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By zeonflux | Permalink | On 31 January 2013 - 22:13 PM
Why is Lescott in the team hasn't he been on the bench recently, surely Jones should be ahead of him, he's been fantastic since coming back

Jones has only played two full Premier League games since his return from injury and Lescott has proved himself on the international stage more than Jones. Even if you don't personally agree with it, it's perfectly understandable.
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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 01 February 2013 - 00:12 AM
Jones has only played two full Premier League games since his return from injury and Lescott has proved himself on the international stage more than Jones. Even if you don't personally agree with it, it's perfectly understandable.

In fairness Jones probably deserves a place over Smalling at least.
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Any ideas as to how we should line-up against Brazil? Here's my XI;

Hart
Johnson - Cahill - Jagielka - Baines
Carrick - Wilshere
Walcott - Rooney - Lennon
Sturridge

Walcott, Baines, Wilshere, Carrick and Sturridge all deserve a starting place due to their good form, and I think we need to utilise Rooney in that deeper role that he has occupied for United. I'd give Sturridge the nod as Defoe's not scored for a while.

By Ninja | Permalink | On 01 February 2013 - 00:14 AM
In fairness Jones probably deserves a place over Smalling at least.

Perhaps. He'll be back in the squad before long if he keeps starting for United.
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Hart
Walker - Cahill - Jagielka - Baines
Carrick - Wilshere
Walcott - Cleverley - Ox
Rooney
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By zeonflux | Permalink | On 31 January 2013 - 22:43 PM
How's it stupid?

What TS said, basically.
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By Carroll. | Permalink | On 01 February 2013 - 13:39 PM
Suprised Downing was in the last squad but isn't in this one

Suprised Downing gets into any squad
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He's been pretty good recently but yeah..
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Against the mighty Oldham Athletic.
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I wouldn't mind seeing Walcott played upfront against Brazil.
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By Deano | Permalink | On 05 February 2013 - 11:59 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing Walcott played upfront against Brazil.

True dat.
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Yeah, could be worth a go. Is Thiago Silva playing? Walcott would struggle against him.
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Nah, he's injured.
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Would love to see Walcott up front for England but it's never going to happen. I want this team out against Brazil regardless of who's in the squad as I haven't looked \o/

Hart
Walker - Caulker - Smalling - Baines
Cleverly - Wilshere
Lennon - Rooney - Ox
Walcott


I'd replace Lennon with Walcott and put Sturridge in upfront if he wasn't injured.
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By Poe | Permalink | On 05 February 2013 - 15:52 PM
Would love to see Walcott up front for England but it's never going to happen. I want this team out against Brazil regardless of who's in the squad as I haven't looked \o/

Hart
Walker - Caulker - Smalling - Baines
Cleverly - Wilshere
Lennon - Rooney - Ox
Walcott


I'd replace Lennon with Walcott and put Sturridge in upfront if he wasn't injured.

That's the roughly the side I hope we play at the World Cup (should we make it). I think Caulker and Smalling have the potential to be better centre-halves than Cahill, Lescott and Jagielka, although it's debatable whether or not they'll reach that potential by then. Baines will hopefully be the first-choice left-back come 2014 as well. I'd love to see a midfielder pairing of Wilshere and Cleverley as well, although we might need a more defensive-minded player in there. It's a shame Rodwell hasn't reached the heights we all thought he would 2-3 years ago.

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