Expand the Playable English Football Pyramid down to Level 13 with this Lower League Database for FM24 by @DanFMDatabases if you are grateful you can also donate to the author here: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/DanG1985 

 

Follow the installation instructions here: https://sortitoutsi.net/installation-instructions/4/how-to-install-fmf-and-xml-editor-data-files-in-football-manager 

 

It is recommended that you check the box “Add Players to Playable Teams” when starting a new save and uncheck “Do not Add Key Staff”

 

Update 27 Nov: This has now been updated down to level 12.

 

Update 15 Jan: This has now been updated down to level 13.

 

Playable leagues:

  1. Premier League
  2. Championship
  3. League 1
  4. League 2
  5. Conference Premier
  6.  
    • Conference North
    • Conference South
  7.  
    • Isthmian Premier
    • Southern League South Division
    • Southern League Central Division
    • Northern Premier
  8.  
    • Isthmian Division 1 North
    • Isthmian Division 1 South East
    • Isthmian Division 1 South Central
    • Southern League Division 1 Central
    • Southern League Division 1 South
    • Northern Premier Division 1 East
    • Northern Premier Division 1 West
  9.  
    • Combined Counties League Premier
    • Eastern Counties League Premier
    • Essex Senior League
    • Hellenic League Premier
    • Midland Football League Premier
    • Northern Counties East League Premier
    • Northern League Division One
    • North West Counties League Premier
    • Spartan South Midlands League Premier
    • Southern Combination League Premier Division
    • Southern Counties East League Premier
    • United Counties League Premier
    • Wessex League Premier
    • Western League Premier
  10.  
    • Combined Counties League Division One
    • Eastern Counties League Division One North
    • Eastern Counties League Division One South
    • East Midlands Counties League
    • Hellenic League Division One East
    • Hellenic League Division One West
    • Midland Football League Division One
    • Northern Counties East League Division One
    • Northern League Division Two
    • North West Counties League Division One North
    • North West Counties League Division One South
    • South West Peninsula League Premier Division
    • Spartan South Midlands League Division One
    • Southern Combination League Division One
    • Southern Counties East League Division One
    • United Counties League Division One
    • Wessex League Division One
    • Western League Division One
    • West Midlands (Regional) League Premier Division
  11.  
    • Anglian Combination Premier Division
    • Bedfordshire County League Premier Division
    • Cambridgeshire County League Premier Division
    • Central Midlands League Premier Division North
    • Central Midlands League Premier Division South
    • Cheshire League Premier Division
    • Devon Football League North & East Division
    • Devon Football League South & West Division
    • Dorset Premier League
    • Essex & Suffolk Border League Premier Division
    • Essex Olympian League Premier Division
    • Gloucestershire County League
    • Hampshire Premier League Senior Division
    • Hertfordshire Senior County League Premier Division
    • Humber Premier League Premier Division
    • Kent County League Premier Division
    • Leicestershire Senior League Premier Division
    • Lincolnshire League
    • Liverpool Premier League Premier Division
    • Manchester League Premier Division
    • Middlesex County League Premier Division
    • Midland Football League Division Two
    • Mid Sussex League Premier Division
    • North Riding League Premier Division
    • Northamptonshire Combination League Premier Division
    • Northern Alliance Premier Division
    • Nottinghamshire Senior League Senior Division
    • Oxfordshire Senior League Premier Division
    • Peterborough & District League Premier Division
    • Salop Leisure Football League Premier Division
    • Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior League Premier Division
    • Somerset County League Premier Division
    • Southern Combination League Division Two
    • Spartan South Midlands League Division Two
    • St. Piran League East Division
    • St. Piran League West Division
    • Staffordshire Country Senior League Premier Division
    • Suffolk & Ipswich League Senior Division
    • Surrey Elite Intermediate League
    • Thames Valley Premier League Premier Division
    • Wearside League First Division
    • West Cheshire League Division One
    • West Lancashire League Premier Division
    • West Midlands (Regional) League Division One
    • West Yorkshire League Premier Division
    • Wiltshire Senior League Premier Division
    • York League Premier Division
    • Yorkshire Amateur League Supreme Division
  12.  
    • Anglian Combination Division One
    • Aylesbury & District League Premier Division
    • Bedfordshire County League Division One 'A'
    • Bedfordshire County League Division One 'B'
    • Birmingham & District League Premier Division
    • Boston & District League Premier Division
    • Brighton, Worthing & District League Division One
    • Bristol Premier Combination Premier Division
    • Bristol & Suburban League Premier Division One
    • Cambridgeshire County League Senior A Division
    • Central Midlands League Division One Central
    • Central Midlands League Division One North
    • Central Midlands League Division One South
    • Cheshire League Division One
    • Cornwall Combination League
    • Crook & District League Division One
    • Cumberland County League Premier Division
    • Devon & Exeter League Premier Division East
    • Devon & Exeter League Premier Division West
    • Dorset League Senior Division
    • East Berkshire League Premier Division
    • East Cornwall Leahue Premier Division
    • East Lincolnshire Football Combination Division One
    • East Sussex League Premier Division
    • Essex & Suffolk Border League Division One
    • Essex Olympian League Senior Division One
    • Essex Alliance League Senior Division
    • Gloucester Northern Senior League Division One
    • Hampshire Premier League Division One
    • Herefordshire FA County League Premier Division
    • Hertfordshire Senior County League Division One
    • Humber Premier League Division One
    • Kent County League Division One Central & East
    • Kent County League Division One West
    • Leicestershire Senior League Division One
    • Liverpool Premier League Division One
    • Manchester League Division One
    • Mid Sussex League Championship
    • Middlesex County League Division One Central & East
    • Middlesex County League Division One North & West
    • Middlesex County League Division One South & West
    • Midland League Division Three
    • North Berks League Division One
    • North Bucks League Premier Division
    • North Devon League Premier Division
    • North Riding League Division One
    • Northamptonshire Combination League Division One
    • Northern Alliance Division One
    • Nottinghamshire Senior League Division One
    • Oxfordshire SXenior League Division One
    • Peterborough & District League Division One
    • Plymouth & West Devon League Premier Division
    • Scunthorpe & District League Division One
    • Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior League Division One
    • Shropshire County League Division One
    • Somerset County League Division One
    • South Devon Football League Premier Division
    • Staffordshire County Senior League Division One
    • Suffolk & Ipswich League Division One
    • Surrey County Intermediate League (Western) Premier Division
    • Surrey South Eastern Combination Intermediate Division One
    • Swindon & District League Premier Division
    • Thames Valley Premier League Division One
    • Trowbridge & District League Division One
    • Wearside League Second Division
    • West Cheshire League Division Two
    • West Lancashire League Division One
    • West Midlands (Regional) League Division Two
    • West Sussex League Premier Division
    • West Yorkshire League Division One
    • York League Division One
    • Yorkshire Amateur League Premier Division
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vk_flyingfox
9 years ago
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By Bielsa is a Legend 03 March 2024 - 13:10 PM UTC 

firstly get rid of level 12 and 13 and just have 14

bro this thread only have download up to 13. Where to download 14?

 

Bielsa is a Legend
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By vk_flyingfox 03 March 2024 - 13:22 PM UTC 

bro this thread only have download up to 13. Where to download 14?

 

Steam workshop

Bradley Keel
1 year ago
2 months ago
1

I’m hoping someone can help.

I downloaded the English Level 13 pack. It worked for a day or so, I was able to set up a save etc. Now it says I have no saves (despite there being save files in the ‘games’ folder on my laptop that I us). And when I go to start a new save It doesn’t give me any options to use the lower leagues I downloaded at all. I’ve tried downloading the Level 13 pack again, it’s in the ‘editor data’ file, but still not allowing me any option to use in the game when I try to start a new save.

Any help would be very much appreciate.

thanks

Brad

Bielsa is a Legend
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By jantuk jantukan 13 March 2024 - 04:41 AM UTC 

not work in 24.3.0

 

Read above

 

level 16 is the latest version on steam-works on 24.3 as do L14

Tip@
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Bielsa is a Legend
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By Tip@ 14 March 2024 - 00:20 AM UTC 
Does not work

Read the thread!!!

 

this has been updated to L14 and L16 since 24.3 update

 

LBOW6
9 years ago
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By Bielsa is a Legend 14 March 2024 - 07:45 AM UTC 

Read the thread!!!

 

this has been updated to L14 and L16 since 24.3 update

Now level 20!

 

However, I tried to start a save as Doncaster City and noticed none of their players were imported - despite Ross McCormack and others being moved in the data update.

 

Eldesaprendido88
2 years ago
2 months ago
1

Hello...download the package. When I go to the game it asks me to verify the leagues, I go to the editor, load the file and when I try the rules I get that in two leagues they ask for a minimum of 22 teams and There are only 21 teams. Is there a solution?I play on Xbox PC..Perdón por el inglés jaja

maconnolly
11 years ago
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Is it normal/expected that the unique IDs of the teams in the lower divisions are different from the ones indicated in the original FM 24.3 database?

 

Just as a random example: Copthorne FC, who play in the Southern Combination League Division One. Their unique ID in the FM 24.3 database is 2000266386. In the new career game I have created, they show as having a unique ID of 2000337759.

 

I don't really know what the bearing is on gameplay of these being different (if any) but, for example, from a graphical perspective - their club logo doesn't work when using the the Metallic Logos megapack (because it is bound to 2000266386).

maconnolly
11 years ago
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By LBOW6 24 March 2024 - 21:16 PM UTC 

Now level 20!

 

However, I tried to start a save as Doncaster City and noticed none of their players were imported - despite Ross McCormack and others being moved in the data update.

 

The Lower Leagues DB (I've got the one down to Level 14), for whatever reason, sets the original Doncaster City (UID: 2000266392) as extinct and replaces them with a second instance of Doncaster City (UID: 2000339433). I think that accounts for the players/staff who have been assigned to the original club not showing up. At least that would be my theory.

 

It's hard to tell (quickly) whether there are a lot of clubs where this has been done…but my very initial poking around suggests this isn't a very common approach for this DB. I filtered for semi-professional or amateur clubs, based in England, that were extinct with at least one database change and the total number was 33. That doesn't even necessarily mean the changes made were to set it as extinct…but it's an indicator, at least.

 

As an aside, I'm going to spend a bit of time to try and hustle my way through the lower leagues (in the Editor) and see if there are a few simple changes I can apply to update the player/staff representation wherever possible. Obviously it's a mammoth task - but if I come across such duplicates, I'll cut the people across to the ‘new’ club, alongside starting with getting key non-playing staff updated, so that more of the clubs have managers (at least) at the start of a new game.

 

Whether I can get the playing staff filled in to a reasonable degree is another matter - information becomes limited as you go down the ladder but, also, it's just a ton of work.

Edit: I've done a quick scan of the clubs that are extinct that I cited earlier in my post. Their extinction, is all cases, is spot on - including that of Doncaster City. I was curious, so I went looking - but Doncaster City effectively withdrew from the league system in 2023 and reformed after a year absence. Therefore, I can understand the reasoning behind creating a new instance of them.

 

Most of the other clubs that have been made extinct are either clubs that have dissolved, or clubs that have merged with others - and in all cases, the new club is represented in the Lower Leagues DB. From my checks, Doncaster City and Redcar Newmarket appear to be two that have been replaced by clubs with an identical name (and perhaps are, in fact, ‘the same club’).

Edit #2: I did a quick check, out of curiosity, to see how many mismatches there could be from the SortItOutSI.net database in to the Lower Leagues DB. There really are very few. The full list of extinct clubs I could find and their source of extinction is as below. The first club listed is the ‘extinct’ club. The second club listed is the club that replaces them, where applicable. Replacement clubs that do not exist in the 24.3 database (and therefore can't have people added to them as part of the SortItOutSI.net database update) are italicised.

Extinct in 24.3 (official DB):

 

Bromsgrove (621) --> Bromsgrove Rovers (2000340541)
Buckingham Athletic (94038815) --> Buckingham (2000271105)
Bury AFC (2000020194) --> Bury (623)
East Thurrock Utd (5103648) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Heath Hayes (7940427) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Kent Football Utd (90069974) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Rye (30005424) --> Rye Town (2000338210)
Sidlesham (5103785) --> Fishbourne (2000338780)
Southwick (8325053) --> dissolved (not replaced)

 

Extinct in Lower Leagues DB only:

 

Broxbourne (8325073) --> Broxbourne Badgers (2000339150)
Coggeshall United (2000024740) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Crowle (2000266389) --> Crowle Colts (2000337574)
Dearne & District (2000266390) --> Dearne & District (2000337340)
Doncaster City (2000266392) --> Doncaster City (2000339433)
Eltham Palace (90069968) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Epsom Ath (90069940) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Eye United (2000007052) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Gravesham (90069972) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Greenwich (5103797) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Littlehampton Utd (2000180974) --> dissolved (merged with East Preston)
New College Swindon (8325241) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Redcar Newmarket (2000256464) --> Redcar Newmarket (2000337647)
Ringmer (5103782) --> Ringmer AFC (2000337618)
Solihull Utd (2000018168) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Sporting Club Inkberrow (2000266387) --> Inkberrow (2000337516)
Team Bury (94012187) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Team Dudley (94052914) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Thrapston Town (8325067) --> Thrapston Venturas (2000338515)
Upton AA (74037551) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Whyteleafe (5100206) --> AFC Whyteleafe (2000205377)
Willenhall (5103728) --> dissolved (not replaced)

LBOW6
9 years ago
22 minutes ago
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By maconnolly 01 April 2024 - 17:02 PM UTC 

The Lower Leagues DB (I've got the one down to Level 14), for whatever reason, sets the original Doncaster City (UID: 2000266392) as extinct and replaces them with a second instance of Doncaster City (UID: 2000339433). I think that accounts for the players/staff who have been assigned to the original club not showing up. At least that would be my theory.

 

It's hard to tell (quickly) whether there are a lot of clubs where this has been done…but my very initial poking around suggests this isn't a very common approach for this DB. I filtered for semi-professional or amateur clubs, based in England, that were extinct with at least one database change and the total number was 33. That doesn't even necessarily mean the changes made were to set it as extinct…but it's an indicator, at least.

 

As an aside, I'm going to spend a bit of time to try and hustle my way through the lower leagues (in the Editor) and see if there are a few simple changes I can apply to update the player/staff representation wherever possible. Obviously it's a mammoth task - but if I come across such duplicates, I'll cut the people across to the ‘new’ club, alongside starting with getting key non-playing staff updated, so that more of the clubs have managers (at least) at the start of a new game.

 

Whether I can get the playing staff filled in to a reasonable degree is another matter - information becomes limited as you go down the ladder but, also, it's just a ton of work.

Edit: I've done a quick scan of the clubs that are extinct that I cited earlier in my post. Their extinction, is all cases, is spot on - including that of Doncaster City. I was curious, so I went looking - but Doncaster City effectively withdrew from the league system in 2023 and reformed after a year absence. Therefore, I can understand the reasoning behind creating a new instance of them.

 

Most of the other clubs that have been made extinct are either clubs that have dissolved, or clubs that have merged with others - and in all cases, the new club is represented in the Lower Leagues DB. From my checks, Doncaster City and Redcar Newmarket appear to be two that have been replaced by clubs with an identical name (and perhaps are, in fact, ‘the same club’).

Edit #2: I did a quick check, out of curiosity, to see how many mismatches there could be from the SortItOutSI.net database in to the Lower Leagues DB. There really are very few. The full list of extinct clubs I could find and their source of extinction is as below. The first club listed is the ‘extinct’ club. The second club listed is the club that replaces them, where applicable. Replacement clubs that do not exist in the 24.3 database (and therefore can't have people added to them as part of the SortItOutSI.net database update) are italicised.

Extinct in 24.3 (official DB):

 

Bromsgrove (621) --> Bromsgrove Rovers (2000340541)
Buckingham Athletic (94038815) --> Buckingham (2000271105)
Bury AFC (2000020194) --> Bury (623)
East Thurrock Utd (5103648) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Heath Hayes (7940427) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Kent Football Utd (90069974) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Rye (30005424) --> Rye Town (2000338210)
Sidlesham (5103785) --> Fishbourne (2000338780)
Southwick (8325053) --> dissolved (not replaced)

 

Extinct in Lower Leagues DB only:

 

Broxbourne (8325073) --> Broxbourne Badgers (2000339150)
Coggeshall United (2000024740) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Crowle (2000266389) --> Crowle Colts (2000337574)
Dearne & District (2000266390) --> Dearne & District (2000337340)
Doncaster City (2000266392) --> Doncaster City (2000339433)
Eltham Palace (90069968) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Epsom Ath (90069940) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Eye United (2000007052) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Gravesham (90069972) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Greenwich (5103797) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Littlehampton Utd (2000180974) --> dissolved (merged with East Preston)
New College Swindon (8325241) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Redcar Newmarket (2000256464) --> Redcar Newmarket (2000337647)
Ringmer (5103782) --> Ringmer AFC (2000337618)
Solihull Utd (2000018168) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Sporting Club Inkberrow (2000266387) --> Inkberrow (2000337516)
Team Bury (94012187) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Team Dudley (94052914) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Thrapston Town (8325067) --> Thrapston Venturas (2000338515)
Upton AA (74037551) --> dissolved (not replaced)
Whyteleafe (5100206) --> AFC Whyteleafe (2000205377)
Willenhall (5103728) --> dissolved (not replaced)

 

Interesting - I don’t know how this can be shared make with the lead editor?

asapas
17 years ago
1 month ago
18

Hello. It asks for it to be validated in the editor. Will an updated version come out?

Mykal Ó Buachalla
11 years ago
3 weeks ago
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how does this affect referee's? we just dont have any at lower levels? or the game will make them

 

kobe8291
10 months ago
3 weeks ago
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xV7RaCzz
3 years ago
4 weeks ago
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Wanted to make a minor adjustment on the database; literally just changing a team name in one of the leagues. Then when I go to retest.. I get bombarded with loads of Nation Rules issues. Oxfordshire Senior League Three cant find any rules.. Level 15 has 679 teams, not 680.. I've ONLY changed a team name. Any ideas? This years editor is the most temperamental thing known to man.

miamiwii
3 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
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By maconnolly 30 March 2024 - 22:31 PM UTC 

Is it normal/expected that the unique IDs of the teams in the lower divisions are different from the ones indicated in the original FM 24.3 database?

 

Just as a random example: Copthorne FC, who play in the Southern Combination League Division One. Their unique ID in the FM 24.3 database is 2000266386. In the new career game I have created, they show as having a unique ID of 2000337759.

 

I don't really know what the bearing is on gameplay of these being different (if any) but, for example, from a graphical perspective - their club logo doesn't work when using the the Metallic Logos megapack (because it is bound to 2000266386).

 

finally someone with the same question as me…I've spent my last 5 hours trying to figure out why the logos didn't load, did you find a solution?

maconnolly
11 years ago
1 week ago
175
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By miamiwii 27 May 2024 - 12:47 PM UTC 

finally someone with the same question as me…I've spent my last 5 hours trying to figure out why the logos didn't load, did you find a solution?

 

Yes, although my solution is fairly ‘extreme’ from the logos perspective: I've embarked on a journey of making my own logo pack for all of the lower levels (starting from Level 20 and working up).

 

The reality is that the solution involves identifying the old ID of the team, finding that logo, renaming the file and amending the XML file to reflect that adjustment.

miamiwii
3 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
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By maconnolly 28 May 2024 - 11:51 AM UTC 

Yes, although my solution is fairly ‘extreme’ from the logos perspective: I've embarked on a journey of making my own logo pack for all of the lower levels (starting from Level 20 and working up).

 

The reality is that the solution involves identifying the old ID of the team, finding that logo, renaming the file and amending the XML file to reflect that adjustment.

 

yes I've been doing the same thing, altough I'm new to football manager so I'm sure I'm not taking the best root to do it. Will you be uploading the updated version? thanks for you work!

 

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