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Type
Improvement
Date Requested
17 Jan 2019 22:05:41
Requested By
Player
Carlos Fierro
Player ID
51013953
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Current Status
Completed
Date Completed
20 Jan 2019 16:57:35
Completed By
Moderate Request
Discussion
alot of white left on the hair in this one
@At Hirsizi Geldi, I'm very grateful you've started producing cuts, but I'm afraid you still need a little bit of work on your technique before you start mass production

What program and what technique(s) are you using for cutting?
@At Hirsizi Geldi, I'm very grateful you've started producing cuts, but I'm afraid you still need a little bit of work on your technique before you start mass production

What program and what technique(s) are you using for cutting?

I am using Adobe Photoshop . (since 2002)
https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HXsI4Yk.png

Here is step by step technique:
Select/Subject
https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HXsIyjM.png

Then do some fine tuning with "Select and mask..." It depends on the quality of the image.
https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HXsJgBU.png

After cropping and resizing to 250x250, i run an action created by myself.
https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HXsJTvH.png

That's it. It takes 2 minutes max. So "you still need a little bit of work on your technique" is a little insult to me You can say "be more detail-oriented, not do sloppy work" but not this. I do much as possible as i can, because i think one is better then none. It can be improved in any time. You wrote somewhere else "there are so much request for cutting". So provide first, improve later is my motto.


As most of the "cutters", i do it for community nonprofit as a goodwill. The cutters have no obligations to fulfill. So, some demanding requests are not nice. (As on this topic). Be cool man, it just needs a few more clicks that's all. It is not end of the world

That's all ranting. Peace







I am using Adobe Photoshop . (since 2002)
https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HXsI4Yk.png

Here is step by step technique:
Select/Subject
https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HXsIyjM.png

Then do some fine tuning with "Select and mask..." It depends on the quality of the image.
https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HXsJgBU.png

After cropping and resizing to 250x250, i run an action created by myself.
https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HXsJTvH.png


That's it. It takes 2 minutes max. So "you still need a little bit of work on your technique" is a little insult to me You can say "be more detail-oriented, not do sloppy work" but not this. I do much as possible as i can, because i think one is better then none. It can be improved in any time. You wrote somewhere else "there are so much request for cutting". So provide first, improve later is my motto.


As most of the "cutters", i do it for community nonprofit as a goodwill. The cutters have no obligations to fulfill. So, some demanding requests are not nice. (As on this topic). Be cool man, it just needs a few more clicks that's all. It is not end of the world

That's all ranting. Peace

First of all, I’m sorry that you have taken offence. Since you’re somebody which hasn’t been active on the community before, I reasoned that you were still starting out at this cutting lark. Whenever I see a new person producing cuts, I try and guide him/her as to what we are looking for and how to improve his/her cuts. To be honest, I would think that telling somebody that they need to "be more detail-oriented, not do sloppy work" would be much more insulting than the more neutral “needs a little bit of work on your technique”

Whichever the terminology used, the reason I asked you to describe the techniques you use is that different cutters tend to use different methods, all of which have different pros and cons. In the case of the technique you use, it is very quick but perhaps not as “detail-oriented” () as we like our cuts to be. If used on anything but the more straight-forward hairstyles on a clear background, that method produces “snow”.

Taking the image in this post and another one at random from the ones you cut yesterday and viewing them on a dark background clearly displays some snow on them:

https://i.imgur.com/Wd0uusv.png

https://i.imgur.com/c7FKNEg.png

Both are very decent cut-outs apart from that, but with most of the FM skins being dark, any snow on cut-outs is accentuated and it is possibly the most important thing for our cutters to avoid.

One of the spoilers in the opening post of https://sortitoutsi.net/forums/topic/360/guide-to-cutting-and-assorted-hints-tips-and-assistance">this thread contains some guidelines on how to spot and remove snow, including a YouTube video which shows a quick and effective method to do so using Clone Stamp. This old post of mine also demonstrates this technique in post rather than video form.

While it is true that all cutters do their work voluntarily (and there is nobody more grateful and conscious of this than me :yes, we nevertheless try and ask for some consistency in everybody’s cuts whenever possible. To this aim, we have some guidelines in the thread linked to above in order to outline a standard approach for all cutters. After all, it’s not very helpful if people are cutting different type of cuts in different styles, sizes and quality – and most cutters understand that the guidelines are there to provide clarity rather than restrict them.

In general, I would agree with your “provide first, improve later” motto. In fact, now that you have provided, we are kindly asking you to “improve”. And to be fair, rather than improve, it’s more of a case of refining But when you have thousands of cuts a month to review (like I do), a few extra and unneeded clicks multiplied many times over become a source of great frustration. And, at the end of the day, why not aim to have a good cut as early as possible?

I hope you take this in the constructive spirit in which it is intended and I certainly hope to see more cuts from you in the future taking all this into consideration

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@At Hirsizi Geldi To offer another opinion, I think there are a few aspects where an easy improvement can be found in addition to mons' advice. Firstly, consistency in cropping/sizing, for example this cutout has too much space above the head (I've learned that 2-3px is the preferred blank space), and that can't really be adjusted afterwards by scaling up without losing quality, unless you have the cutout saved before resizing.
Secondly, for a request like this or like this, I've also learned that it's preferred to rotate the player's head so the face is upright and not crooked.
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