PoorJack - Comments

“Can i edit the database using fm editor?” 

That's what the pre-game editor is for… 

Technically, it's a bit different though: You edit whatever you want, and export the “changes” into some .fmf files. Then, enable them when creating a new game, like using some data updates. 

“…trying to update my database” 

Do you mean… editing changes you've made before? Some .fmf files? 

Then, you load up the editor data file after the database, for reference: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5k1mAxcX3g 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_Ylmqpaezc 

Switching teams for a player should be one of the simplest to do. 

Anyway, if you've an error message or whatever, please be more specific… or even better, provide some screenshots. You can't possibly expect us to understand what exactly “having real issues using the editor” is about.  

They're players added via custom data updates or database… The situation is that there are many database, and each adds their own Chido Obi… which means that the player could have a different IDs in your game and my game. So, which should the photo be assigned to? 

Facepacks are independent to data updates or custom database anyway… unless they're from the same creators. 

“Could anyone help?”

You can! May simply assign the photos manually: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQccBrMdbzQ 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1KMbdGXMJQ 

Anyway, my point is more than that: 

A more specific subject can help you reach more people, who have relevant knowledge and experience. So, having some keywords in the title is just a good practice. It's going to make a big difference when you need to make an enquiry one day. 

Besides, nobody wants to see a forum filled with titles like “Help, please”, “Data updates", or “file not working". Sorry, just a little tip… that's all. 

Anyway, please stop mentioning the age… that's what makes someone old. Oh, guess what? Claudio Ranieri is managing AS Roma this season… 

Next time, better think of a more exciting subject/title for the post. 

“Lower League” is just general and vague… so plain that doesn't help express your feelings. Can't really feel the joy, excitement and pride that you want to share to everyone. 

Even better, may attach a few screenshots. 

Not familiar with English National League System… National League North and South are tier 6, and you're talking about an data update for tier 7 and 8… AFAIK, there are several divisions at each level, so just how many teams are we talking about for tier 7 and 8? 

Have you thought about the scale and framework of such an update? Then, you'd understand why you can't really find such a data update available. This sounds like a massive and complicated project… very challenging. 

“There's one add on : Facepack” 

So, do you mean… facepack is working properly? 

“What do you mean by: you can try other data editor files?…” 

The point is to test and confirm what's working, then eliminate those and try to narrow down to the possible problem. For example, your key fails to open the lock, but the spare key works. Then, what may you conclude? The lock should be OK, and it's probably something about your key… Nothing technical, as it often happens in your daily life. 

So, may try other custom leagues, or data updates from other sites… 

Anyway, I also asked about the path in Preferences, so did you check if it's correct there? 

Did you follow every step here? Check the “Common Mistakes” section? https://sortitoutsi.net/content/62063/troubleshooting-football-manager-data-update-installation-how-to-install-football-manager-databases 

Then, consider creating your own player facepacks, or contributing to any existing packs… AI has made things much easier: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpGpTIapPhs 

NO! Have you done real name fix before? 

I said “fake.lnc”… not fake files. I used it as an example (sorry, this is the only file I remember) of those files that give you fake names or whatever. 

Do you remember those files that you suppose to get rid of? For example: 

fake.lnc 

lic_dan_swe_fra.lnc

japanese names.lnc

licensing club name_fm24.lnc

1_japan_removed_clubs.dbc

forbidden names.dbc

… 

For reference: https://www.fmscout.com/a-fm24-real-names-license-fix.html 

By the way, what fake files do you have in the folder? Well, if they're back after the 24.4.2 update, then you know what to do. 

I asked in last reply, and you haven't answered: “Are any other add-ons working, e.g. custom data updates, facepacks, skins,…? ” 

If graphics are working, then the path should be correct. 

Then, may check if it's pointing to the right folder in Preferences? For reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I759UoBtz7I 

Also, may try other editor data files, and see if things work… 

Let's brainstorm together: 

If you sit back and do nothing, you keep wondering. 

If you re-apply the fix anyway, it gives you peace of mind… more or less. At least, that's all you can do at the moment. Does it hurt? Any risk? 

So, it's just a matter of whether it's worth spending 3 minutes doing the fix again regardless, OR waiting for hours or days for anyone to tell anything (if any). That's all you may do now… until later, there may be a new fix (if any), but it's another story, isn't it?  

How about at least spending a minute to open the folder and have a look? Are those files (e.g. fake.Inc, lic_dan_swe_fra.lnc, japanese names.lnc,… those you suppose to get rid of) back? Any new files or changes in the folder there? That should give you more information towards an answer/decision. 

In the game, you don't hesitate to make tough decisions, such as splashing half of your budget to sign a player, or selling your best player. 

Outside the game, it's time to decide… whether to open the folder and inspect.  

“Due to a licensing requirement, we’ve rolled out a small update to remove one club’s licensed assets which were unavailable for renewal when FM24 was extended in March.” 

https://community.sports-interactive.com/forums/topic/592193-fm24-licensing-update/ 

https://www.reddit.com/r/footballmanagergames/comments/1kr7d0f/new_update/ 

Can't really find a video tutorial for logos… it's similar to player faces and kits anyway: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQccBrMdbzQ 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxXU2IWbQUI (from 16:00… suppose you already have the images) 

https://www.fmscout.com/a-how-to-add-custom-logos-to-football-manager.html 

Anyway, the components are: image, ID, and an entry in config.xml that assign the image to the team/player. 

EDIT: OK, here's a better one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8YY6p9wBHg (an old FM version though… anyway, only the interface is different, the steps are very much the same) 

“The logo pack is not working as expected…” 

There are a few logo packs… which one is it? 

“…the config.xml file and see there is mapping only for Mac. Shouldn't there be one for Windows as well?” 

Never heard that there are Windows and Mac versions of config.xml… things just always work (Windows, in my case). 

An xml file is just a plain text file, and any OS is capable of reading the content inside. For instance, you can open it with an editor program, so don't see a point to have different versions for Mac and Windows… Why inviting troubles for both the developers/creators and users? 

OK, I had a look at the config.xml file you attached… Which part do you conclude that the content is “mapping only for Mac”? 

For example, the first entry "<record from="13172353" to="graphics/pictures/club/13172353/logo"/>" seems… normal, as far as I know. 

This line is from the logo pack I use (working in Windows): "<record from="1000" to="graphics/pictures/club/1000/logo"/>"… I don't find any difference. 

By the way, if the above entry is regarded as a Mac version, then what does a Windows entry look like? Any examples? 

"I can resolve it also by mapping the correct path in the xml file…"

Can't test anything, since no information about which logo pack is… but since you mentioned you've resolved the issue, so may you share what you've fixed and how? 

Or, do you mean the line “<!-- logo mappings - generated with FM XML for Mac –->”? 

It simply means that the entries below (or this file) are generated by the program “fmXML”, which is running on a Mac computer. Nothing about this config.xml file is exclusive for Mac or Windows…  

Let's think about it together: 

If the file isn't going to work in another OS, then Mac or Windows version becomes very important information. It should be highlighted or announced at the top of the file, instead of being hidden in the middle. Don't you think? 

Besides, if there are different versions for OS, then you should see related information (e.g. This is for Mac or Windows) in the description of the logo pack, as well as instructions about which version to download. 

Also, it's very likely that you're going to see tons of enquiries (or complaints) in the forum about things not working… since many people actually don't bother to read, and would just end up using the wrong version. 

Not here to challenge you anything, just there's not enough information to figure out what exactly the issue is… and just trying to understand what happened in your case. 

Anyway, suppose you're running Windows, you may simply use fmXML or FM Graphics Configurator (both have Windows version), and generate a brand new config.xml file for the logo pack. Then, you'll have a “Windows version” of config.xml instantly… (Remember to back up the current config.xml file first!)  

So, there's one and only one fmf file and you've overwritten it. Where's a "previous version of this file"? Only you know if you ever have another copy of the file somewhere… (It'd be scary and dangerous if the system or game creates an earlier version without you knowing it… Also, it's meaningless if you're unaware that there's an rescue plan for emergency.) 

In addition, it seems like you never back up your system and the fmf file. 

So, I suppose you've an answer already... 

Regardless, let's brainstorm any possible chances you've: 

fmf file:

OK, there's no history possibly left, since you've destroyed it completely by overwriting the file. 

Pre-game editor:

Alternatively, you may also check if the editor actually keeps any history, so you can undo to any previous states… or at least, a log which has recorded what you've done. Don't expect too much, as it's probably a log (if any) of, e.g. system crashes and update failure. (Sorry, I'm not familiar with the pre-game editor…)

Save game:

Elsewhere, all you've is the save game, which was built using this fmf file. Can you extract any information from it? I doubt it... don't think "Resource Archiver" can do (AFAIK, it's for fmf files, not for save game files... just try to think of anything possible). This is like you want to extract any seasoning you've added from a dish of pasta… 

Sorry to say, I guess it may be better to stop mourning, accept the fact, and move on. The only thing this save game can do is for you to take notes about the changes you've made before. So, it can help you rebuild the fmf file again... this time, more efficient and quicker, even you've had “a few thousand changes in it”. (You may keep the files and wait for rescue, while start building the new fmf file at the same time. Just in case that I'm wrong and there'll be a solution or miracle later… I sincerely hope so.) 

For some reason, we all like to learn a lesson the hard way... the harder it hits you, the deeper it bares in your mind. Just last week, there's a post about having lost a beloved save game… into 20th season or so.  

Apart from building the fmf file again, it may be a good time to prepare a regular system backup and file backup. For the latter, you may use some programs to make a copy of some files every 12 hour or so, or simply manually copy the files/folder to another hard drive, cloud storage, or USB drive every now and then. It takes you 5 minutes (every few days, or a week), but could save you from disaster, give you peace of mind. 

So, you've never done a backup for school assignment or work document? If no accident (e.g. corrupted file, hard disk failure) has ever visited you, you can consider yourself pretty lucky in life… Seriously! 

Alternatively: 

Have you thought of talking to the FM Rensie developers? 

May ask if there's any way to add the same feature in its FM24 version, or at least, gather some information about that particular map… well, of course, don't expect anything, but doesn't hurt to ask anyway. This would  be the best possible way to get the ideal result you desire (if it does work out)… as you can't seem to find the same thing from any other skins. 

“…via Steam?” 

You don't install the update via Steam. You download the data update from the site, and extract the content to the specific folder. 

"…decompressed in the data editor"

You extract the files into the “editor data” folder… “data editor” is something else, or do you mean “data folder”? 

“…nothing appears in the data file editor” 

I suppose you mean “Game Setup” > “Editor Data Files”? 

Sure you've followed the steps here? 

https://sortitoutsi.net/content/62063/troubleshooting-football-manager-data-update-installation-how-to-install-football-manager-databases 

For reference: 

https://www.reddit.com/r/footballmanagergames/comments/1fs5t7k/latest_transfer_wont_update_on_my_macbook/ 

https://www.reddit.com/r/footballmanager/comments/1d2pq2b/no_data_folder_on_mac/ 

https://www.youtube.com/@FootballManagerTipsMac 

Are any other add-ons working, e.g. custom data updates, facepacks, skins,…? 

Some skins allow you to customize what to show on a screen, e.g. contract info, injury record, or training on a player's profile page. However, other tabs or statistics may happen to be shown on the screenshots, instead of that team action map (or whatever it's called). 

So, may have a glance at the screenshots, pick those that have the above option during a match, and try: 

https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-2024-skins 

https://www.fmscout.com/c-fm24-skins.html 

Mustermann Iconic? Just? Tato24? 

Can't picture what you mean… some screenshots would be helpful. 

“Is it more fun to manage a team in the lower leagues, or is it better to manage a team playing in the UEFA European leagues? ” 

Everyone is different… May just experience both and find out what you like: Try a small team for a game, then try a big club in another later… or simply switch teams/leagues within a career.  

“And is there a team you would like to suggest?” 

Injecting some randomness into the game makes it fun and challenging,… It also solves the headache when struggling to decide which team to manage. 

Start unemployed and apply for any jobs in mid-season, or simply try your luck: https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-2025/club-picker 

This is nothing to do with “new to FM”… As you can see the file size from your screenshot, sure you expect the file should be bigger than 0kb. 

Assume that the file is alright on the sharing services site, there are several possible reasons, e.g. network problems or download limit. So, may try downloading again later (wait for a while after completing a file), downloading one file at a time, or select another file hosting service (if any). 

Are the save game files here? 

https://support.sega.com/hc/en-gb/articles/19452660515857-Where-can-I-find-my-Football-Manager-save-game-files 

Or, if you've the game saved elsewhere… 

Lesson: If the save games mean so much to you, then it's a good idea to back up the files. 

For reference: 

https://community.sports-interactive.com/forums/topic/583945-salary-commitments/ 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeNgrZPCDM4 

If you suggest this is a bug, then please report: https://community.sports-interactive.com/bugtracker/ 

Anyway, the SI forum is the best place to get an official answer or clarification: https://community.sports-interactive.com/forums/forum/25-football-manager-general-discussion/ 

https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-2025/club-picker 

From your screenshots, there's no “r-” in the entry in the config.xml file… 

Following steps is good, but it's better to understand the reason behind each step. The point is to assign the picture to the player's ID, and his ID is “r-2002129049”, not “2002129049”. 

Also, simply have a look at others' config.xml files as a reference, better than making guesses here and there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNmKMar2ogQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhuVzb_7PZY&t=148s 

Anyway, it should look like: 

<record from="DEN213" to="graphics/pictures/person/r-2002182662/portrait"/> 

<record from="Asian/Asian1916" to="graphics/pictures/person/r-2002116770/portrait"/> 

According to your screenshots, there's no “r-”… and sure you can see that his ID starts with “r-”… 

Something like: 

<record from="DEN213" to="graphics/pictures/person/r-2002182662/portrait"/> 

<record from="Asian/Asian1916" to="graphics/pictures/person/r-2002116770/portrait"/> 

Scroll back to the top, at the right hand side, just below the creator's profile, you'll find “Date Updated”… 

May try Google… 

https://www.reddit.com/r/footballmanagergames/comments/qtyrds/how_do_i_see_things_like_average_age_of_my_squad/ 

https://www.reddit.com/r/footballmanagergames/comments/126rboq/average_age/ 

Maybe: 

https://www.reddit.com/r/footballmanagergames/comments/1c8nszz/my_players_wage_is_different_going_off_different/ 

https://community.sports-interactive.com/forums/topic/565678-help-me-understand-my-wage-bill/ 

As said in other replies, there's no way to ask users to change file/folder names, or modify the folder structures on their own. You're not given any instructions to do so anyway. 

By the way, you don't have to remove any folders, just point the path to the level right above “0”, “1", “2”,… that's it. Simple! Anyway, appreciated that you're trying and experimenting… 

Apparently, I've figured it wrong about the folder path, sorry… Please refer to the official page: https://fm.zweierkette.de/en/uran-facepack-en/ or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GksR7qbDVgQ 

In NewGAN Manager, we used to go to the level right above the “race” folders… it's seemingly different in FM.Z Tools: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmMC7KDzBno 

“I doubt it's normal…”

https://sortitoutsi.net/content/71005/new-players-who-are-supposed-to-be-in-the-new-players-are-included-in-the-changes 

https://sortitoutsi.net/content/71070/starting-without-new-players