PoorJack - Comments

Here's a question: 

Say, if you do limit the number of regens in your game, what happens when those young players you create get old? 

It's a matter of the “ecosystem” within your game… 

On the other hand, even if you don't touch the number of regens, since the players you create should be more superior… the subpar regens will “drop out” from the game naturally: released, nobody signs them, then disappear from the game (they would appear at “Transfer History”, but you're no longer able to inspect their profiles)… 

In summary, the regens will probably never present a “threat” to the youngsters you create. It may not be necessary to disturb the “ecosystem” at all. 

After all, the above is just an observation. You may do an experiment: Simulate a few games for seasons, and see if this is the “world” you want. 

Anyway, for reference: https://community.sports-interactive.com/forums/topic/561489-number-of-regens/ 

The installation is just the same as other logos or graphics. So, if you're able to get other logos work, you can get Metallic Logos work too. Besides, you said you've been using Metallic Logos for years, so sure you know very well about how to install and download (some people don't download all the parts before extracting the archive).  

Anyway, there's no other information from you… apart from “I've tried everything and it never works.”, so there's no clue about what may have gone wrong. 

Maybe… you've more than one logo pack in the graphics folder? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTSCqNTz42Y

OR

https://sortitoutsi.net/content/75707/ng-regens-newgens-megapack-with-custom-installer-newgen-face-manager 

https://community.sports-interactive.com/bugtracker/1644_football-manager-26-bugs-tracker/

https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/style/3/metallic-logos#installation-instructions-content 

Why asked ChatGPT for help? I believe it never plays FM! 

On the other hand, there are many real people offering tutorials for free… step by step: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uPK-BW9HwE 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQa7BI7jCGg 

When nothing seems to work, do it from scratch: 

Move every add-ons away (e.g. to another folder)… do it one at a time. But before that, read the instructions all over again and carefully (every add-on should have instructions), then make sure you follow every step. 

(According to your “Player updates/fix”, you may want to visit the instructions again: https://sortitoutsi.net/content/74677/fm26-real-name-fix-placeholder-thread )

No reason to go mental… after all, just copy and paste files to the right places, nothing technical. 

So, how do you get to the right folders? 

Too dependent on AI, we seem to start ignoring the basics: Slow down, and read instructions carefully, do one step at a time… Those materials are produced by experienced FMers… and explain everything better than any AI. 

For reference: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmuj16QxMBg  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxy9N1EhEPE 

Each logo pack has provided installation instructions: 

https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/style/25/fmg-standard-logos 

“I need it ASAP”… then consider creating an update yourself (well, you know the U18 team better than many), and also share with other Arsenal fans. 

So, let's brainstorm together: 

• Suppose you've add-ons that are working in your FM21 now, right? So, just compare the config.xml there with this template… and see if they've any difference.
• Graphic packs are kind of continuous throughout versions. For example, you may use FM23 facepacks on FM24…
• If every new version needs a new config.xml format, then you should see warnings or instructions before downloading any add-ons… don't you think?
• If the above is the case, it'd make sense for the template creator to specify that this template is for FM24 or whichever version in this post. 

Suppose the above is enough to give you the answer… yes?  

If not, OK, let's take some actions: 

• May just give it a try… it takes you a few minutes to add one or two entries in this template, and see if the graphics show up in the game. Nothing hurts… as it's not going to damage anything.
• Can't expect that anyone here still has FM21 installed and test for you. So, you're actually the closest to the answer…

"West Ham have confirmed that Nice defender Jean-Clair Todibo will join on a permanent deal on 1 July, following a season-long loan at the Premier League club."

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cy8dw0yv84yo 

“It’s not that I don’t want to solve the issue, there is no issue.” 

The issue is… when you tried using the editor to update promotions/relegations and “it won't let me do that”, as you said. Looks like you misunderstood from here… 

“you aren't really interested in solving the issue” 

You didn't mention any more about “adjust promotions but it won't let me do that” in the reply, and seem to focus on waiting for the data update to update promotion/relegation. So, assumed that you're not interested in trying the editor any further… so I said “never mind” and just left you there. 

“…for not being experienced using data packs” 

“People do use a few data updates or custom database together…” is used as a piece of statistics, evidence or proof. This is to explain that the data update here and anything customized by users (e.g. promotions/relegations, or transfers done by editor) can work together, as many people have done that… always. 

So, it's used to support that “…it won't let me do that” can be solved, and things can work. If you need help, please provide more information. However, as mentioned above, since you aren't too interested in pursuing a solution in using the editor, so case closed.

Can't understand how “People do use a few data updates or custom database together…” becomes something like “insulting you (?) not being experienced in using data packs”… 

The line is purely a background information for supporting, which doesn't have a bit about you in the context. In addition, I don't know how experienced you're anyway. Last but not least, does experience matter in this case? 

Moreover, in the first line in my reply, I asked you for more information, e.g. error message, trying to figure out what happen to “it won't let me do that” when using the editor to update promotions/relegations. 

Then, I suddenly insulted (or whatever) on your experience in using data pack (as you claimed) in the next line? 

Lastly, the tone dramatically changed again: I provided information in the last line, explaining the season hasn't finished yet… 

…Does that make sense? 

“I was asking for help on a forum…” 

I suggested using the editor to make changes as an alternative solution, so you don't have to wait for the data update. Then, tried to follow up with “it won't let me do that” when you're using the editor… 

“not saying there was an issue with this site or its content…” 

What? The issue is just “adjust promotions but it won't let me do that” when using the editor… 

If anything not clear, or upset you, please bring it out… happy to discuss and sort out everything. 

Anyway, if you're interested in using the pre-game editor to update promotion/relegation any time, then please be specific about what “it won't let me do that” means, e.g. error message. 

For promotion/relegation, naturally… edit each club's “Division”: 

https://www.reddit.com/r/footballmanagergames/comments/16sv03b/pregame_editor_promotion/ 

Make sure you don't mess up the total number of teams in the league…  

Or, an easier way… try swapping teams: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56eR0Ua3u48 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W_TDC5tjcQ 

Explained in those posts… May you spend a bit of time to read them through? 

For example: 

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cg41pwze65lo 

https://theglobalherald.com/sport/football/west-ham-secures-permanent-transfer-of-jean-clair-todibo/ 

However, it may not be made official until after the summer transfer window opens: 

https://www.si.com/soccer/when-does-summer-transfer-window-open 

By the way, what's the detail of the contract? Length? Wage? Clauses? If you don't have the above information, then may better wait. 

Or, if you can't wait, then simply move the player manually using the editor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W_TDC5tjcQ 

Of course, you need proofs… You're meant to submit changes for the data update, for everyone. The information needs to be accurate, and also save the staff time to verify each entry. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0rRSqInAzM ? 

A simple search with “amateur view search player fm” in Google can do. Anyway, if it's your favorite, then better back up the file. 

Yes, it's so frustrating… to see the same posts every day this week. 

https://sortitoutsi.net/content/71256/updated-relegationpromotion 

https://sortitoutsi.net/content/71240/2526-promotions-and-relegations 

If you really can't wait, then may edit manually: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W_TDC5tjcQ 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_Ylmqpaezc 

For reference: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6WIVxfrp_4 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ2WlpDpvXI 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHGn8A2mLwM 

Try “last save overwrite backup.fm”? 

https://support.sega.com/hc/en-gb/articles/19429026666769-What-should-I-do-if-my-save-game-no-longer-loads-in-Football-Manager 

https://community.sports-interactive.com/forums/topic/574727-corrupted-save-game-any-ideas-how-to-recover-older-versions/ 

“I saw on an old Steam thread that SI has previously helped fixing save files.” 

So, you may try… doesn't hurt anyway: https://community.sports-interactive.com/bugtracker/football-manager-2024-early-access-bugs-tracker/save-game-compatibility/ 

Looks like you never back up such an important file, so… do you have any system backup that happens to cover the save game folder? 

P.S. The screenshots… don't really help anything at all. 

Don't say sorry to me… I've plenty of time to help. Slow down and read carefully… which can save yourself some time. 

There's a link (Sports Interactive) in my first reply to you… I suggest that you may read it carefully (again), then you know about things about the ID and filename inside a config.xml file for trophies. 

Or, simply open a config.xml file from the “Trophies Pack” and have a look… it's the most obvious example and the closest reference to you! 

It's alright to ask questions, but we seem to be going nowhere. The situation is that there are very limited resources about adding trophy images manually to the game. That's why I urged you to think a bit in the last reply, in order to fill the gaps and link things up. There just aren't much more help we can offer… however, I think the information/resource here is more than enough, it does need some efforts though. 

Anyway, it's time for your turn: 

Please spend some time and read/watch the reference links first. Also, check on the “Trophies Pack” and try to understand how things work... this is probably the best reference. Then, may give it a go when you feel ready (remember to back up important files). 

So, remember why you're here on this page? 

This is the discussion for a config.xml template. Scroll to the very top and download the file and start editing.

Or, as said, generate a config.xml file for logo (as a base) first using fmXML or FM Graphics Configurator, and edit from there. 

Or, if too lazy, then may just grab a config.xml from your other graphics add-ons (assume that you've), then make a copy and you've a template. 

May use the links in my last reply as a reference of what a config.xml for trophies looks like… Alternatively, of course, you may simply use the config.xml file from "Trophies Pack" to start. 

Basically, I just repeat the previous reply… so, please read again, slow down and try to think a bit. Nothing technical, as it's just about editing a plain text file. 

These are for player's face, yet similar to other graphics… just in case you need a reference about the editing part: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQccBrMdbzQ 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1KMbdGXMJQ 

For reference: 

https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-data-update/future-start-date-database 

https://sortitoutsi.net/content/71199/fm24-2024-25-real-fixture-results-lnc-update-22-5-2025 

Since you asked the question here, then suppose you know about this template… so may start with it: You may manually enter the entries… if not many. 

If there are too many to type in, then may generate a whatever version (e.g. logo) first, and edit from there (never try… but sounds possible, isn't it?). Reference to a config.xml file for trophies: https://sortitoutsi.net/graphics/style/32/trophies-megapack 

Alternatively, if fmXML doesn't have the option, how about https://sortitoutsi.net/content/848/fm-graphics-configurator-for-pc ? May have a look anyway. 

For reference: 

https://community.sports-interactive.com/forums/topic/356631-fm16-guide-how-to-create-and-add-trophy-images/ 

https://sortitoutsi.net/content/57319/trophies-images 

“…it won't let me do that as well as use sortitoutsi's data pack” 

May be more specific… an error message? We can't possibly understand what “it won't let me do that” means. 

People do use a few data updates or custom database together… Anyway, looks like you aren't really interested in solving the issue, so never mind then. 

“Essentially I just want to start a save with everything updated for next season”

For some countries, the football season is yet to wrap up. For example, English National League Promotion Play-offs Final will be playing today… 

First of all, it's about everyone's preference. 

Next, there aren't many choices anyway. 

Last but not least, suppose you do want things up-to-date, and not too many are regularly updated. 

If you don't have a database there, then where do you have the fake names anyway? So, what's the point to apply the real name fix… if there aren't any fake name files (e.g. “fake.lnc, lic_dan_swe_fra.lnc, japanese names.lnc,…”) in the folder? 

Well, you may be the first person who seems so eager to use the real name fix… 

Anyway, of course, you must have at least a database to have the game running. So, if you don't have 2400… do you have 2430 folder there then? 

When you create a new game, which database can you choose from? 

Or, did you install the game elsewhere? 

May try if you want it back: 

https://support.sega.com/hc/en-gb/articles/9997753543185-How-to-verify-the-integrity-of-Football-Manager-s-files

You can! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W_TDC5tjcQ 

"Or if they will be added to the data update soon?" 

Keeping updated is the point of a data update… 

For reference: 

https://community.sports-interactive.com/forums/topic/507531-how-to-test-your-competitions-in-the-editor/ 

https://community.sports-interactive.com/forums/topic/467964-how-to-test-and-verify-editor-file/ 

https://www.reddit.com/r/footballmanagergames/comments/uevj1x/how_do_i_test_and_verify_this_database_in_the/ 

https://www.fmscout.com/q-24724-HELP-How-do-you-verify-a-database.html 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6wNRx-Qs7A 

“the teams resets”, do you mean the fake names are back? 

"those files", do you mean the likes of “fake.lnc, lic_dan_swe_fra.lnc, japanese names.lnc,…”? 

Since you know this forum, suppose you've done the Real Name Fix before, and you also know what it does for you. 

Anyway, stop “just wondering” and let's experiment: 

If you're worried about losing “those files”, then simply move them to another folder temporary and see if “everything will be fine”. 

If yes, then good. If nothing changes, then just restore the files and no damage is done. It takes you 5 minutes to find out the answer. 

For reference: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhMtzbnuWOw 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UoF4tzdR98 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFK3OXx-IRo 

We can't possibly understand what “I can't save it” means. An error message? No response? 

Suppose you know what this Real Name Fix is for, so did you see any of these files (e.g. fake.lnc, lic_dan_swe_fra.lnc, japanese names.lnc,...) back in that database folder? Any changes there from the update? It takes you 3 minutes to check. 

Alternatively, if you're still unsure or worried, then why not just download this file and re-apply the fix anyway? 

This is the only thing you can do at the moment… until any new fix or instruction released. (You should see a new fix or new information (if any) by now, don't you think? It's been over a week after the update…)  

It doesn't hurt to apply the fix again… which takes you 5 minutes to have some peace of mind.