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You are right, some of the logos are displayed automatically. It's extra work, but you're on the safe side. Most of these logos i got from kremmen and i don't check them, if they're really necessary.

Ok, it should work to ensure a logo is displayed when viewing different squads. It will also make the pack quite a bit heftier!

If you get most of the logos from kremmen this may be the wrong place to say this, but logo 814758 might not be correct since it has the word "baloncesto" (basketball) on it.
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May I ask why you are adding logos to reserve and youth squads? It would seem that at least quite a few of those squads automatically display the 1st team logo, and the additional logos are not different from the main ones.
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France | CS Avion

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I don't know if WhiteH considers it appropriate for others to post content they have created/edited in response to requests, but here is the Rochester Rhinos logo for you @BA81. Tell me if the border width is not what you were looking for.
http://i.imgur.com/PsdbhLu.png
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@patio Atlético Madrid in different sizes.

http://i.imgur.com/PwQCz1j.png http://i.imgur.com/epfgMyG.png http://i.imgur.com/ewW8xPM.png http://i.imgur.com/X5O2BC0.png
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Brisbane City - 130219
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/860059715929161729/ApSwdsZG.jpg

This seems to be the logo of FC Brisbane City rather than Brisbane City FC (130219). Brisbane City FC has submitted an official bid to to join the A-League (starting 2018-19), and if succesful would be rebranded as FC Brisbane City with the new logo. It is not yet known if the bid will succeed, or if SI would consider the A-League club to be the same as the current NPL club (whether they would have the same ID).

https://www.facebook.com/fcbrisbanecity/
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Kepez Belediyespor new (457415)
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/664733723045273604/HblVRlbz.jpg

In vector format: http://www.kepez-bld.gov.tr/page.php?id=51/Belediye-Logolari
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I'm not necessarily advocating for any action or inaction. I merely pointed out the relatively large number of images with IDs that do not have a counterpart in the current data, and asked if you had ever considered removing such images.


There's less churn in terms of logos when compared to players, as proportionally fewer clubs get disbanded than players retire each year.

There are far fewer clubs than people to begin with, but I'm not sure ”churn” is what logos have less of. From this thread it seems that people's IDs might be deactivated, and then reactivated at a later date – rather straightforward. A plausible scenario with logos is that a club goes bankrupt, and is set as extinct in the DB. Then essentially the same club will make a comeback with a slightly different name under a different ID. After a season or two the new club will IRL be considered the same as the old club, and the ID that was marked as extinct is resurrected. At this point the new ID is marked extinct or entirely removed (or deactivated?). It is my estimation that these new IDs that have disappeared are less likely to be brought back.


I'm a bit wary of having separate megapack versions, particularly in terms of technical support matters. Also, you'd be surprised how many people play older FM versions, and removing "archived" person's cuts would have a large impact.

Removing images would still require a new separate version of the pack, since deleting images from other people's computers is not be feasible.
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At the end of the day, though, is it really worth going to all that trouble just to remove images which may need to be added again at a later date?

I tested the identification method on the Cut Out Megapack, and it indicated a rather large number of possibly superfluous files. Whether its worth to worry or do anything about is another thing, but I thought it would not hurt to mention it...

Once FM18 is out, I will certainly look to see if the DVX logopack contains logos that have IDs not present in the new DB. If for no other reason than to see what they are (but quite probably to also remove at least some of them).


Quite apart from the fact that loads of people already have the base megapack images, how would it be possible to remove images from somebody else's computer?

Naturally the pack would have to be re-released after removing images.
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As HR for Romania I can tell you that every year I delete some players/staff from database: some of them died, retired from football, quit playing etc.

But most of them are set as not for extraction (they are still in database, but somehow inactive), and maybe next years I will mark them back as active and they will appear in the game with the same ID.

It works same for the whole database. So now there are players that are not in FM17, but could be back in FM18 or 19 with same ID.

I suppose while the IDs are inactive, they are stored in some sort of master DB and are not present in the game DB that is provided with each copy of FM? Naturally there is a Person Type Retired, but that is possibly a different thing.


I'm the Maltese researcher, so I know how it works in terms of the database, but I don't know of a way in which it would be possible to identify the UIDs in the megapack which are not in a particular game's database version.

A programmer could probably code a nice little application that compares IDs present in the DB to IDs present in the pack, but I have tried to come up with a way to do the same thing by other means (to spot "redundant" logos in the DVX logopack). Perhaps there is a simpler way, but here is what I have been thinking about:
  • The IDs of the people in the DB are known, while the IDs of the people not in the DB are not known.
  • All the images with a name (ID) that is in the DB, can be renamed with an added indicator. So, if we have an image with an existing ID of 12345, it can be renamed to, say, 12345_infmdb173. The images with name that is not in the DB are not renamed.
  • Every image that has ”_infmdb173” in its name is of a person that is in the DB, and conversely every image that does not have have it in its name is of a person that is not in the DB. The "redundant" images have been identified.
To do the above, one needs FM, FM Genie Scout, Bulk Rename Utility and Notepad++ (or another text editor with similar functions). Genie Scout is needed to export Unique IDs to text file, Bulk Rename Utility is needed to rename files en masse, and Notepad++ is needed to massage the Unique ID text file to a format Bulk Rename Utility can use. I can describe the whole procedure in more detail if it is required.

In any case the method does work, but of course there is a question whether Genie Scout actually exports all the IDs (after creating a save with maximum number of players included). Is there a way to export IDs directly from the DB?

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Hi mons.

I think the Cut Out pack contains more than 40000 images with IDs that are not (anymore) in FM DB. Naturally having them in provides backwards compatibility and coverage (also I don't know if SI are in habit of bringing back removed players/staff with old IDs), but its still about 2GB worth "redundant" files. Have you ever considered removing at least some of the oldest images with non-existing IDs?
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Seoul United FC (South Korea) - 66010570
http://www.seoulutd.com/xe/layouts/portal_layout/img/emblem.png


http://busanfc.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/emblem04.png
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https://i.imgur.com/EKjJ5qn.png


17v3 update is available for download.

The final update to the FM 2017 DVX pack contains over 850 new, updated or improved logos. The revised logos include among others Admira Wacker Mödling, Chelmsford, Minsk, PSM Makassar, Recreativo Huelva, Shenzhen, Ternana, Vasco da Gama and VSK Aarhus crests.

The link is in the first post.
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Italy | Assisi

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Italy | Ambrosiana (VR)

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Finland | Pallo-Sepot-44

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Is that the button logopack by FM Slovakia? If yes, the best bet would be to contact them to for the template.
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Also a shoutout for Tuttocampo

Tuttocampo has probably had someone redraw many of the logos before they have been added onto the site. Unfortunately quite a few of them are not super accurate reproductions of the of the originals. Especially fonts and clipart (footballs, coats of arms etc.) may differ from what the original artists have used.
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Poland | TOR DobrzeĊ„

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Finland | Ruskon Pallo

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Uruguay | Albion

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Brazil | Murici

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Sheffield Wednesday
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Logopacks are generally compressed within rar, zip or other archive files. You have probably extracted such a file, and then placed the logopack folder that was contained within it to Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2017\graphics (or a subfolder under graphics)?

Have you tried reloading your skin with logopack as your only additional graphics pack?
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I actually added new logos for VSK Aarhus for the 17v1 pack, but for some reason used the old Skovbakken logo. Thanks for pointing it out Svart Svane.

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Italy | Città di Ragusa

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France | FC Aurillac Arpajon

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Is it possible to write down major changes to the logos at each update. Easier than browsing a tons of logos.

My assumption is that you would like to know names rather than IDs of the clubs that have had their logos updated. Logos that have been named with IDs are somewhat simple to rename with proper club names by using a few tools (Genie Scout, Notepad++ and Bulk Rename Utility). I can give you instructions if that is what you want to do.

What purpose would manually writing down a list of the hundreds of logos included in each update pack serve?

At best, it'd just waste a lot of kremmen's time, which I think would be better spent producing these logos

I don't know kremmen's work methods, but if at some point in his workflow all the logos that are to be in an update are within one folder and are named with club names, it would be very simple to print the folder's content list to a text file.
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There was a mixup transferring files onto a new server iirc - it's been fixed since then, but the 2x files still have am issue which is being fixed right now - when i last downloaded the megapack a few days ago there were no 'retina files' in the pack, just regular x2 folders where they should be.

For what its worth, I downloaded all the parts right before I submitted the post you replied to (naturally the process to download the whole of the base pack took for a few hours).

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