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By jumberto | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 17:10 PM
Young played for the foul but he clearly got his ankles clipped and it was as clear a foul as you'll get. Ivanovic knew it too.


Hardly 'clearly'. They weren't clipped either, it was more that Ivanovic's shin hit his heel
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And to top it off, three stupid offside calls.
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If Mikel got a booking instead of Valencia, then so should have Rooney earlier on in the game.
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By Slashman X | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 17:15 PM
They weren't clipped either, it was more that Ivanovic's shin hit his heel

Bloody pedantic lot on here aren't we!
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By jumberto | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 17:31 PM
Bloody pedantic lot on here aren't we!


Well seeing as you said it was as clear a foul as anyone of us would ever see and that he very very very clearly clipped his ankles, I thought I'd point out that you were wrong
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Clipped his heels, clipped his ankles, hardly any difference. Ivanovic left knee made contact with Youngs left foot causing him to fall. It was a foul. Young made sure he was fouled. It was still a foul.
http://i.minus.com/ijpKX0GGgoAMX.gif
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I do like the way Young manages to filck his heels miles in the air for maximum effect. Not denying it's a foul, but he's done basically the same thing Torres but Torres got a second yellow, joke reffing.

Also in regards to Fellaini's kick on Allen, there was also another occasion where he kicked someone else and got no punishment either time. He seems to do it regularly and get away with it the dirty fuck
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By Carroll. | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 17:29 PM
If Mikel got a booking instead of Valencia, then so should have Rooney earlier on in the game.


What are you talking about? He got a fucking booking for the tackle that led to the free kick, we've gone over that already in this thread.
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By jumberto | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 17:50 PM
Clipped his heels, clipped his ankles, hardly any difference. Ivanovic left knee made contact with Youngs left foot causing him to fall. It was a foul. Young made sure he was fouled. It was still a foul.
http://i.minus.com/ijpKX0GGgoAMX.gif

That gif actually makes it look less like a foul Due to Ivanovic looking like he's trying to jump out of the way \o/ Also, that's not clipping him. From my understanding, clipping someone's heels is swiping so one of their heels hits the other, not just touching their heels.

It was obviously gonna be a red card. But it's not the clear and malicious foul that you are making it out to be
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By Slashman X | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 18:30 PM
That gif actually makes it look less like a foul Due to Ivanovic looking like he's trying to jump out of the way \o/ Also, that's not clipping him. From my understanding, clipping someone's heels is swiping so one of their heels hits the other, not just touching their heels.

It was obviously gonna be a red card. But it's not the clear and malicious foul that you are making it out to be


Malicious, are you joking? Every time I've said Young played for it. Doesn't mean it wasn't a foul though.

When they use the phrase 'clipped heels' in horse racing do you think they mean one horse intentionally swiped the one in front to gain an advantage? No, it just means one touches the other causing it to fall. Don't see why it's different in football.
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By Jaygull | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 18:16 PM
What are you talking about? He got a fucking booking for the tackle that led to the free kick, we've gone over that already in this thread.


I'm not on about that one, I'm on about him doing something similar Mikel did earlier on, Chelsea got a free kick for it I think.
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By Carroll. | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 19:08 PM
I'm not on about that one, I'm on about him doing something similar Mikel did earlier on, Chelsea got a free kick for it I think.

Are you serious? That was never a booking.

Mikel was going no where and hit the ground like a sack of shit, if we're booking people for challenges like that then we're finishing games 5 on 5.
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How come there haven't been many MNF games yet this season? Can only recall 2 :/
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By King Luis | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 19:21 PM
How come there haven't been many MNF games yet this season? Can only recall 2 :/

Because you're a cunt.
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By Telegram Sam | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 19:26 PM
Because you're a cunt.


Takes one to know one
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By King Luis | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 19:27 PM
Takes one to know one

You got me.
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By King Luis | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 19:21 PM
How come there haven't been many MNF games yet this season? Can only recall 2 :/


I can recall 3 off the top of my head - Everton-Utd (Utd lost ), Everton-Newcastle, and QPR-West Ham. There's probably been a couple more though?
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By Ninja | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 19:09 PM
Are you serious? That was never a booking.

Mikel was going no where and hit the ground like a sack of shit, if we're booking people for challenges like that then we're finishing games 5 on 5.


It's exactly the same tackle as Mikel's on Valencia.
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By Carroll. | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 19:29 PM
It's exactly the same tackle as Mikel's on Valencia.

Apart from Valencia was breaking into the box.
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By jumberto | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 18:10 PM
Funniest thing about the Gerrard quotes is that he dived for the freekick that led to the disallowed goal. So lacking in self-awareness.

You're insane (and about 12 judging by the childish names)

If Clattenburg was biased;
Why didn't he send Ivanovic off earlier for his two-footed foul on Evra? (He gave Chelsea a throw-in instead. )
Why didn't he send Torres off for kung-fu kicking Cleverley?
Why did he book Valencia for diving instead of booking Mikel (and then sending him off) for body checking him?
Why did he allow Ramires to commit countless fouls without booking him even once?
etc etc

Young played for the foul but he clearly got his ankles clipped and it was as clear a foul as you'll get. Ivanovic knew it too.

Chelsea were 2-0 down after 10 minutes and were getting sliced apart at will. They'd do well to focus on that rather than blaming the referee for all their problems.

Cmon now man. We were all over you with even 10 players on field.

And you talking about Kung-fu kicks mate? Don't you remember Evans kung-fu kick on Drogba when he didn't get a card and Drogba was given a yellow.

You are childish with WHY shit?
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By jumberto | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 19:45 PM
Apart from Valencia was breaking into the box.


Yeah I'm just saying if one was a yellow so was the other.
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By jumberto | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 17:10 PM
Funniest thing about the Gerrard quotes is that he dived for the freekick that led to the disallowed goal. So lacking in self-awareness.


Watch it again. As he's going down the Everton player accidentally stands on his standing leg. If you can't agree with that, I'll accept you're blind.
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By jumberto | Permalink | On 29 October 2012 - 17:10 PM
If Clattenburg was biased;
Why didn't he send Ivanovic off earlier for his two-footed foul on Evra? (He gave Chelsea a throw-in instead. )
Why didn't he send Torres off for kung-fu kicking Cleverley?
Why did he book Valencia for diving instead of booking Mikel (and then sending him off) for body checking him?
Why did he allow Ramires to commit countless fouls without booking him even once?
etc etc

Young played for the foul but he clearly got his ankles clipped and it was as clear a foul as you'll get. Ivanovic knew it too.

Chelsea were 2-0 down after 10 minutes and were getting sliced apart at will. They'd do well to focus on that rather than blaming the referee for all their problems.


I didn't say he was 100% biased, just that most of his decisions (the bad ones) went United's way...

1. It wasn't as bad as you are making it to be. Should have been a yellow, I would agree on that but never a red.
2. Both feet were high (Cleverly's and Torres' so that is why he didn't get a red. How does that not make sense? Both went for the ball, not intentional and 9/10 times that is only a yellow card.
3. Because he realised how stupid he was sending Torres off and he knew that he has to do the same for both teams.... To bad it was too late for him to make up for what he already ruined.
4.Same as 3.

And how can you say that we were sliced apart? Seriously, after 20 minutes you guys were no where to be seen on the pitch! You did absolutely nothing after your two goals. Did you just go after you went 2-0 up? You were lucky the de Gea had a really good game, or else you would have been 4-2 by half time...

And I have a question for you... How come Rooney wasn't sent off? He made more than enough fouls to get himself a second yellow card.
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By Crane | Permalink | On 30 October 2012 - 00:02 AM
Watch it again. As he's going down the Everton player accidentally stands on his standing leg. If you can't agree with that, I'll accept you're blind.


I've only seen it live with one replay and it just looked like classic Gerrard starfish action and then Moyes also commented on it after the game, but if it was a foul then fair enough, like I said I've only seen it once.

By chokosc | Permalink | On 30 October 2012 - 05:28 AM
1 - I didn't say he was 100% biased, just that most of his decisions (the bad ones) went United's way...

2 - And how can you say that we were sliced apart? Seriously, after 20 minutes you guys were no where to be seen on the pitch! You did absolutely nothing after your two goals. Did you just go after you went 2-0 up? You were lucky the de Gea had a really good game, or else you would have been 4-2 by half time...

3 - And I have a question for you... How come Rooney wasn't sent off? He made more than enough fouls to get himself a second yellow card.

1 - you basically said the only way he could've made his decisions was if he was biased and you suggested he did stuff on purpose
2 - you were 2-0 down after 10 mins, we scored with basically our first attacks and your flanks were totally exposed. When we started sitting back you gained momentum and got back into the game.
3 - he wasn't sent off because Sir Alex Ferguson is an evil timelord who controls the FA, UEFA and FIFA and he ensured that Mark Clattenberg (the famous Man Utd fan and Chelsea hater) was in charge just to make it possible for us to win.

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