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Franck
Correlation =/= Causation.
Ninja
Regardless, I don't see why anyone thinks it's interesting that the most conservative states were the ones most resistant to massive social change.
DB
DMT Abuse
DMT Abuse
1. Attlee*
2. Wilson*
3. Gaitskell
4. Smith
5. Foot
6. Blair*
7. Kinnock
8. Brown*
9. Callaghan*
10. Miliband
1. Heath*
2. Macmillan*
3. Major*
=Churchill*
=Cameron*
=Thatcher*
=Howard
=Duncan-Smith
=Hague
=Douglas-Home*
=Eden*
All those in = are just awful.
Franck
bluemoon.
Fuck you, Franck. Fuck you.
Phoenix Arrow
You heard it here first.
DB
Ninja
As shitty as it sounds defending Australia was unimportant.
We could have lost WW2 on every theatre except from Europe and we still would have won, conversely, if we'd lost in Europe then victories outside of that theatre were meaningless.
I'm not trying to belittle Australia's contribution to the war effort, it was vast, there just wasn't any justification for diverting resources towards the defence of Australia.
Franck
In all honesty I'm just trying to bait Mr Willy into insulting me or Jaygull into writing some political essay again.
DMT Abuse
Get a time-machine, visit Northern England or Scotland in 1979 to 1997. Her economics may have encouraged falling unemployment (after it touched 3,000,000), and falling inflation. GDP may have grown, but it was all at the expense of taking jobs from the industrial areas and making jobs in vastly more profifitable areas in the South and London. There were riots, strikes- and after she destroyed much of the North- she gave us no alternative. There were no jobs.
Social services, such as Healthcare and Education were in tatters. Poor infrastructure, poor quality of care. On that respect, 'New' Labour did very well after 1997. Poverty and inequality rose hugely. She was not the best
Obtuse
Franck
I don't really see the issue with the bolded part. Jobs are not a human right, having jobs where you happen to live is even less so.
Ninja
£100m wasted on elections for a role that doesn't need them, no one knows what it is and no one could be bothered to vote for.
Farcical.
Jamieandhisego
For more information as to why she is as risible a politician as she was a human being:
http://neilharding.blogspot.co.uk/2005/10/20-reasons-why-i-hate-thatcher.html
http://stumblingandmumbling.typepad.com/stumbling_and_mumbling/2005/10/against_thatche.html
bluemoon.
Ninja
Yes, yes he was.
Churchill was great for what he did during the war. But I think people get confused between Churchill the symbol, and I think there is some argument to say that a deliberate cult of personality was formed around him during War time in order to inspire, and Churchill the man.
Slashman X
Telegram Sam
Don't worry, they can always make that back by cutting NHS funding. No worries.
bluemoon.
DB
NHS? You bunch of Commys !
Also on another political note is anyone else getting increasingly worried about the situation in the ME? Tensions do seem at boiling point and thought of Iran and the US getting involved is scary.
Phoenix Arrow
You should've asked me to say something then. Or say Ayn Rand had some good points.
jumberto
bluemoon.
Fuck you, PA. Fuck you.
Telegram Sam
It is, but there's always been trouble in the Middle East. Not really sure how today's environment compares.
Phoenix Arrow
Well it seems Hamas sent a rocket to blow up the Israeli parliament today. So I'm guessing not great.
Obtuse
First rocket they fired since the truce day before yesterday and the naval bombardment from Israel yesterday.
DMT Abuse
Actually, I don't take my laptop and visit these forums at parties- so yeah, I'm fine.
Mr Willy