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Ipswich Knights
terriersmad
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The Platypus
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K3V0
Like a 7/10
The Platypus
Wrong.
Next.
Sam
Ipswich Knights
I rate this comment 1/10
Ninja
I really wanted to love it, and thought after the first 20 minutes to half an hour that I would, but thats about as good as it gets. What follows is basically a re-telling of Episode IV, but 'bigger and better'. Apparently the actual dialogue 'its like the Death Star BUT BIGGER' wasn't the klaxon call for the writers that we'd been there before and done it already.
Apart from that it was incredibly rushed, overlong, had a disappointing score (surprisingly), and relied too heavily on people having a warm fuzzy sense of nostalgia to carry it.
For the most part its good, and the new characters are strong, but its getting incredibly leniency because its a new Star Wars film and its not complete garbage. Oh, and Harrison Ford was great.
mr.SPANKY
The Platypus
That wasn't supposed to happen in A New Hope.
As a huge fan of the original trilogy, I thought it was absolutely incredible. Fun, well written, with a lot of interesting new characters, brilliant action, and the best lightsaber fight since the 80's. Also, it sets up the new movie well. All in all, more than I could've hoped for.
mr.SPANKY
Apologies was meant to be in Return.
Ninja
Each to their own, but when you say it was more than you hoped for do you mean because you thought it was objectively great or because you expected it to be shit and it wasn't?
Caus thats where I'm let down by it I think, it was a perfectly ok Star Wars film and I'm more than willing to forgive a lot of the silly parts that are being criticised by others because its Star Wars and its always had the silly parts. But I just can't shake the fact that if not for the returning characters, the sense of nostalgia, and for the fact the prequels were worse it would be universally panned as an inferior copy of the original.
Ipswich Knights
The Platypus
mr.SPANKY
The Platypus
Ninja
I think it was especially disappointing because I thought this film was at its best when it wasn't re-treading old ground and there were some genuinely good moments, but because of the conscious decision to do Episode IV again we missed out on that.
I dunno, I feel like there's a lot of interesting stuff they've built and I'm hopeful that the trilogy as a whole will be good, but I was disappointed in the way they went about telling this part of the story and as a result made a film that on its own merits was a let down. I'm hopeful that now we've got the return out of the way we can get on with having some films that stand up on their own merit rather than just because they've wheeled out some old characters.
The Platypus
Vercoe
Verrrona
But anyway this film. I'm not really Star Wars fan. I've seen bits of them when they've been on the telly and I've seen this Phantom Menace which I thought was cool before I was young and the third one which I don't even remember the name of but I fell asleep. This one was alright, but there are quite a few things that have been bugging me.
I know this is nit picky but the whole thing about Star Wars is that it's not just one movie right? They want you to buy into this whole universe. So what are they just going to cheapen the rest of the franchise by making this one character who's so perfect at everything with just a few seconds of practice that she makes all the other characters look like mugs?
The other thing that bothered me was the sheer amount of fan service doled out by Harrison Ford who seemed to be playing Indiana Jones in this film. You couldn't go 5 minutes without him making some wry reference to the previous films. Again, it's nit picky but as someone who's not invested in the franchise it just made me go "what? Why's he saying it like that?" At one point I swear he looked at the camera as he was saying one.
I liked Finn and Poe though. I also liked they way they used all the old characters except for Han.
I mean it was worth the price of admission and I wouldn't mind watching it again on TV or whatever but as a film I don't think it was mind blowing. I get why people like it so much, it's obviously got this massive cult following and it was a pretty good movie. But that's it really.
The Platypus
Vercoe
Oh god, so much!
She was just like a grandma, rather than the feisty bad ass she was in episodes 4,5 and 6.
Ipswich Knights
Verrrona
I'm not saying I thought Fords performance was bad, but I don't think the writing for Han was as good as it could've been. It felt like they used him to pander to the audience a bit too much. I said this to the person I went with too though and they said I was wrong so maybe that's how he's meant to be.
But with Rey...
I still enjoyed it though, the lightsaber battles and action scenes were pretty choice. If I had to change anything about the ending, I would've had the baddie be about to kill Rey rather than the other way around at the end. Putting up a fight against him would've been impressive enough to make her look strong but winning the fight seems a bit weird.
The Platypus
It's not as much the way she was portrayed, as it was Carrie Fisher's performance. Wooden and stilted. A lot of her scenes were apparently cut out, so I guess the filmmakers felt the same as me.
Ipswich Knights
Ninja
I've seen this criticism a lot round the internet and think its ridiculously unfair. And this is from someone who has problems with the film.
One of the most popular theories is that Rey is herself a Skywalker, and theres certain similarities between the plot to this film and the KOTOR games which feature a force user who's had their mind wiped, both could explain whats either tremendous natural talent, or ingrained teaching. Perhaps a combination of the two, either way, until we know what the explanation for Rey's ability is then we don't know if its a plot problem or not.
As for Ren, I think he's just being ridiculously over-rated in terms of his power. He's the only force user other than Luke knocking around the Galaxy, so he's almost certainly not fought a lightsaber battle before in his life, was quite clearly injured, was very raw himself -as per Snokes comments about him needing further training- was emotionally unstable and is certainly not big or bad yet. Just a moody angsty teenager with potential. The biggest problem I have is that Finn was able to go toe to toe with him, but perhaps that was actually meant as a demonstration of how weak Ren was, rather than how strong Finn is?
The Platypus