Number 1
16 years ago
10 months ago
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Leicester get the title and Martin Tyler gets his mic cut midway through saying unbelievable. Brilliant.
18 months later and we're relegated. Winning about 4 games. - It's been a disaster since he left. It's clear he was holding the club together. He's not a world class manager by any means but he was willing to drop people and wouldn't of allowed the club to sleepwalk into danger the way it has.

McClaren was awful - but the only reason he was allowed to stay on so long was Charnley being desperate to prove his decision was correct and the fickle fan desperate not to be seen as fickle.

My hope is the relegation leads to a clear out - Charnley is sacked and replace by a chief exec. who actually listens to the manager - a manager allowed to make decisions, and the squad picked on form rather than on supposed ability. And the club is allowed to be rebuilt like it was last time until Charnley got his hands on it.

Its a two part issue. On the one hand, I don't think Pardew was great and I don't think we were wrong to want his exit. But that was built on the naive assumption we could find someone better, and until they pulled Benitez out of their arse with no real time to change the culture at the club, they couldn't. And that's down the drain too because he could only get 2 points from Norwich, Sunderland and Villa, and just couldn't galvanise them in a way the succession of late-on Mackem appointments has, and next year its obviously going to be someone like Nigel Pearson.

But I do agree with your other point that he was clearly a stronger presence at Newcastle than we thought. The board were clearly not expecting his departure 18 months ago, and ran around like headless chickens for a month before settling for two incompetent freebies in a row. McClaren was a disaster from the start kept in for far too long by Charnley, and that 18 day period off after the Chelsea thumping is perhaps the biggest waste of time possible.

Its pretty clear Charnley has to go and Graham Carr has to be kept away from France, Belgium and Holland. But in terms of the second tier, this won't be like it was in 2009-10 - I'm expecting a closer season to those of Blackburn, Fulham or QPR in recent years, where there's lots of changes, no consistency, and the odd embarrassing defeat to a side going to League One. Even if most the players are tossers who went missing too often, few squads go up on the back of changing everyone.

And sure, I know its not mathematically confirmed yet. But for all the good Everton and Watford will do, why bother getting hopes up.
Dan
13 years ago
5 months ago
16,964
Glad Sunderland beat Chelsea in the end today! Would love them to fight against relegation once again especially if it means Newcastle get relegated!!
Number 1
16 years ago
10 months ago
3,650
Glad Sunderland beat Chelsea in the end today! Would love them to fight against relegation once again especially if it means Newcastle get relegated!!

If this is about the foul throw in the TW Derby then let it go.

And frankly, is a Sam Allardyce side who will be exactly in the same place next year a team you want to survive?
BR.
17 years ago
2 years ago
1,896
And frankly, is a Sam Allardyce side who will be exactly in the same place next year a team you want to survive?


Not sure they will be (assuming they do stay up of course). Whenever Big Sam has a full season with a club they usually end at least comfortably mid table, apart from Bolton's first season or two after promotion 15 years ago.

Although it's too early I guess to predict what'll happen next season, after all who thought this season would go how it has done.
Number 1
16 years ago
10 months ago
3,650
Not sure they will be (assuming they do stay up of course). Whenever Big Sam has a full season with a club they usually end at least comfortably mid table, apart from Bolton's first season or two after promotion 15 years ago.

Although it's too early I guess to predict what'll happen next season, after all who thought this season would go how it has done.

I want my moment of irritable cynicism dagnabit! Although granted that when it comes to NUFC that started around November 2012, but still.

Then again, who knows. If Blackburn hadn't sacked Big Sam for Steve Kean in 2010, they'd probably not be among the early favourites for a spot in League One right now. Plus Leicester winning the league promotes the mostly welcome return of unpredictability to football and whatnot.
Based Jorge
10 years ago
4 years ago
1,399
That was a bit of a surreal thing to watch
Shola
16 years ago
5 years ago
2,708
I'm scared Sunderland will end their cyclical season - with Johnson, Fletcher and Graham gone...
Dan
13 years ago
5 months ago
16,964
If this is about the foul throw in the TW Derby then let it go.

And frankly, is a Sam Allardyce side who will be exactly in the same place next year a team you want to survive?

Haha I forgot all about that! But that can add to them going down this season!
Shedender
17 years ago
1 month ago
13,751
Haha I forgot all about that! But that can add to them going down this season!

You don't need to worry, come around 21:45 on Wednesday, we'll more than likely be a Championship club . . .
BR.
17 years ago
2 years ago
1,896
If Blackburn hadn't sacked Big Sam for Steve Kean in 2010


Don't remind me of that Haha, been a horrible 5 and a half years.
bluemoon.
17 years ago
3 months ago
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Premium
Really got applaud these fascists mind - who cares about the torture when you've got Kevin de Bruyne!

Everyone loves a bit of Kev.
Carroll.
15 years ago
3 years ago
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bmg033
10 years ago
5 months ago
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This is terrible, 2-1 down and none of them look that bothered.
Ninja
14 years ago
6 years ago
5,341
This is terrible, 2-1 down and none of them look that bothered.


Are you surprised? Emotion of losing the league aside you've got fuck all to play for now.
Number 1
16 years ago
10 months ago
3,650
This is terrible, 2-1 down and none of them look that bothered.

Assuming Everton pull something out of their arse on Wednesday then maybe there is hope for us.
Don't remind me of that Haha, been a horrible 5 and a half years.

Yeah I can imagine.
bmg033
10 years ago
5 months ago
2,268
Are you surprised? Emotion of losing the league aside you've got fuck all to play for now.

They shouldn't stop trying just because we missed out on the title and we've still got 2nd place to play for.
Sam
17 years ago
1 year ago
5,092
Haha, imagine if Arsenal finish above Spurs. Fuck.

Surely that's motivation to beat City today. Please.
Carroll.
15 years ago
3 years ago
3,361
Lost my bet the bunch of cunts. Danny Rose is shit and a nasty piece of work at the same time.

Hope Arsenal win and go above Spurs
Sam
17 years ago
1 year ago
5,092
Frantic start to the game.
VP.
13 years ago
4 weeks ago
25,271
We are fucking shite.
SpinSwimScream
14 years ago
1 day ago
1,598
Well that came out of nowhere, cracking finish. Criminal that Arsenal just kept letting him run, attempt a tackle at least.
SpinSwimScream
14 years ago
1 day ago
1,598
Another very good finish, it's like City don't wanna win this game
Sam
17 years ago
1 year ago
5,092
Good result.

Watch us lose on Tuesday.
Based Jorge
10 years ago
4 years ago
1,399
Would be fucking funny if we managed to finish above Spurs now
Ninja
14 years ago
6 years ago
5,341
Lol its gonna be funny still not qualifying.
Sam
17 years ago
1 year ago
5,092
Lol its gonna be funny still not qualifying.


I now think we'll easily beat West Ham and then lose to Bournemouth.
bluemoon.
17 years ago
3 months ago
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Premium
Not as bad as I thought we'd be, still doubt it'll be enough.

Lol its gonna be funny still not qualifying.

If you lot can't even do it from here, they need to be sacking players not just LVG.
Based Jorge
10 years ago
4 years ago
1,399
Poor form from City fans with 3/4 of them leaving during Pellegrini's farewell
Ninja
14 years ago
6 years ago
5,341
Not as bad as I thought we'd be, still doubt it'll be enough.

If you lot can't even do it from here, they need to be sacking players not just LVG.


To be fair thats probably true regardless of whether we get top 4 or not.
bluemoon.
17 years ago
3 months ago
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Poor form from City fans with 3/4 of them leaving during Pellegrini's farewell

Nope.

To be fair thats probably true regardless of whether we get top 4 or not.

Perhaps. Definitely true if you don't though. We're giving them every possible chance.

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