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This is the match engine file modified for reality and adding much more interest in fm.
It changes everything in match, such as passing, moving, attacking, defending, 1 on 1, kill passing, buildup, one two passing, pressing, attacking moving, attacking switching, defending switching and so on. You won't see dumb and stupid playing anymore that all of FM series always had. All of moving and playing will be realistic or understandable at least.
All tactics can be played much better in match as real football playing or as you have imagined what you wanna watch in matches, which you wanted to see from this game and didn't know even this could be done in FM.
If you are football fan, it’s wasting of life not using this. With this one, I assure you don’t need to buy next series of Football Manager before SI done for much far better AI and match engine.
You can see short gif here: https://www.reddit.com/r/footballmanagergames/comments/j3nh4u/football_manager_2020_realistic_match_engine_patch/
More gif here:
https://www.fmkorea.com/3110322325
https://www.fmkorea.com/3110023583
While this is a free patch and will be more patches, if you wish to donate as way of thanking me for my time and my team you can do so by the link below.
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=34HHKS5N9CQW4
How to apply: close football manager 2020. unzip and replace json file in this location. Then open again.
(No need to start new game. It applies on all save games)
Steam: Local disk:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/common/Football Manager 2020/data/simatch/physics
Epic games: :/Program Files/Epic Games/Football Manager 2020/data/simatch/physics
Mac steam: Library/application support/Steam/steamapps/common/Football Manager 2020/data/simatch/physics
Mac epic games: Users/Shared/Epic Games/FootballManager2020/data/simatch/physics
Caution: Because this file fixes match engine, you might need to fix tactics. strongly recommended to modify your tactics (current latest patch version: v6)
https://discord.gg/jSnyQCz
Here is discord channel that you can freely download all developer's test engine and complete engine patches, also can read and talk freely all over the world with translation bot, though you are not good at English. I wrote how to use and it has great quality of translation. Also if you are developer or who knows the coding, here are people who are analying the match engines, welcome to join us. After joining, give private message to manager in channel.
And PS. If someone is interested in retexture of graphic files, please let us know after joining discord channel.
It changes everything in match, such as passing, moving, attacking, defending, 1 on 1, kill passing, buildup, one two passing, pressing, attacking moving, attacking switching, defending switching and so on. You won't see dumb and stupid playing anymore that all of FM series always had. All of moving and playing will be realistic or understandable at least.
All tactics can be played much better in match as real football playing or as you have imagined what you wanna watch in matches, which you wanted to see from this game and didn't know even this could be done in FM.
If you are football fan, it’s wasting of life not using this. With this one, I assure you don’t need to buy next series of Football Manager before SI done for much far better AI and match engine.
You can see short gif here: https://www.reddit.com/r/footballmanagergames/comments/j3nh4u/football_manager_2020_realistic_match_engine_patch/
More gif here:
https://www.fmkorea.com/3110322325
https://www.fmkorea.com/3110023583
While this is a free patch and will be more patches, if you wish to donate as way of thanking me for my time and my team you can do so by the link below.
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=34HHKS5N9CQW4
How to apply: close football manager 2020. unzip and replace json file in this location. Then open again.
(No need to start new game. It applies on all save games)
Steam: Local disk:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/common/Football Manager 2020/data/simatch/physics
Epic games: :/Program Files/Epic Games/Football Manager 2020/data/simatch/physics
Mac steam: Library/application support/Steam/steamapps/common/Football Manager 2020/data/simatch/physics
Mac epic games: Users/Shared/Epic Games/FootballManager2020/data/simatch/physics
Caution: Because this file fixes match engine, you might need to fix tactics. strongly recommended to modify your tactics (current latest patch version: v6)
https://discord.gg/jSnyQCz
Here is discord channel that you can freely download all developer's test engine and complete engine patches, also can read and talk freely all over the world with translation bot, though you are not good at English. I wrote how to use and it has great quality of translation. Also if you are developer or who knows the coding, here are people who are analying the match engines, welcome to join us. After joining, give private message to manager in channel.
And PS. If someone is interested in retexture of graphic files, please let us know after joining discord channel.
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Voivoda
Does it work in FM2019?
Thank you!
serzhoxs
thank you Billgates
atleer
RellomQ
We are working full time, actually way more then that, lol. Some of the Korean guys joined us, among them, the guy that actually found the way to do all this.
But that is not why I'm posting. I got a few bits and pieces of data and statistics, that might be of interest and remove some rumors, of what the ME file change or not change, in its current state.
This is the Original ME file stats, for one season simulated in Lower leauges (Vanarama South.)
This is Billgates V7.9 ME file, witch is the current we are working on, simulated the same way, with stats from Vanarama South.
Original ME file, with Premier League stats.
V7.9 ME file, with Premier League stats.
*CR% is Cross completed ratio.
*CR C is Crosses completed
Make your own assumptions, and conclusions from this please. But here is my take, of what I know and what assumptions I also have.
Facts:
- Lower League tackles, is affected directly by the strings in the ME file.
- To my understanding of reading numbers, nothing else is affected outside normal perimeters.
- Nothing suggest tackles in lower leauges have a big impact on League tables. More testing will be made on this, rest assure.
- SI are correct, when they told us that they saw numbers outside the normal perimeters, of what realistic statistics should look like. There could be more numbers and stats, but for now, only tackles in lower leauges is having odd behaviors.
- ME file, is applied to instant results and simulations. No more wondering about Schrödinger's cat.
My assumptions:- With the fact, that we know that tackles are influenced directly, but some other strings are not, and just beautifications. Will we also guess / assume that some strings might not work as intended (or logically) from the original ME. Hint to the delay in a new release.
- With only lower leauges being affected by tackles, and seemingly not Primer League, we must also assume, that the ME file, directly interact with other coding hidden to us. As lower quality players, is affected more by tackle physics strings, inside the ME. Possibly players with lower physical numbers, is the case.
- To me, is this a win / win. I like how the lower leauges feel now. Not only all the beautifications, but the tackles too. It might not be realistic in terms of statistics, and real life perimeters.. But I don't see unrealistic results, and to me, that is good enough. I hate immersive breaking stuff. And this do not break it for me, but add to it, inside the match engine.
- My last assumption, is also a win / win. I actually like, that it wont change statistics much and direct gameplay. But I do assume that the beautifications we make, by changing the ME file, is making changes to how animations and the flow of game looks and feels when they are applied to the new specific number and strings we change / add.
This is a handball, actually a handball:Tell me, have anyone else ever seen a real hand to the ball animated like that? I doubt it. Give me some more of that handball action please, or any other great unique animations or gameplay.
RellomQ
No, FM19 is using another ME file.
yams
What I don't get is if SI new they had these animations in the game yet they weren't showing on the actual pitch why didn't they A). Admit it & B). Actually do something about it like this.
Did they really sacrifice visual enhancement for a 'realistic' engine in their opinion? If they did then it seems to be a massive mistake.
I love FM20 other than the terrible visual representation of match day, so much that until this mod I've been playing the visually excellent FM12. This however had brought me back onside & then some. Fantastic work, really fantastic.
RellomQ
That is speculation. There could be many reason to why the ME is as it is.
One thing. billgates v6 ME, do make the game harder to read for the broader audience, and less tactical knowledgeable players. The normal one, is pretty easy to read, and see when something goes right or wrong and correct it. Personally, do I believe this to be the most obvious reason, if I where to make a qualified guess.
Unfortunately, is the engine build as 2D, where the 3D is just a skin of sorts, so editing 3D animations are proberbly not possible per say, since they more then likely not exist. But that is really me stretching it, and getting over in assuming stuff, that I'm not 100% sure about. But it do seems to be the case, and why we are seeing so few updates over the years, on 3D.
At some point, am I sure SI will make a new engine entirely, but something like that, actually do take years, if they want to make it any good. They could have been working on that since 2016...we just don't know. SI is not really a big company per say, and if they are making an engine, it is proberbly mostly made by one coder over the years, witch make it take longer then what you will see from developer companies with 500 people, and 5 guys making the engine together.
BARRABAS1975
Leeds1919
Greetings from Leeds and thanks for El Loco
Giannis Stavroulis
proton6
This is a dictionary term of the word Forum .......... as follows
Public conversation
A forum is a public discussion. It can refer to a meeting, a meeting house or any conversation that is available publicly. ... Communities, however, still hold their own forums, or meetings, usually to discuss local issues. When you see the word forum, think public conversation.
So much for public conversations but their forum is more like a Strictly run regime that you cant say anything about the game as long as its nice
Leeds1919
its in the steam structure, in data/simatch/physics
Giannis Stavroulis
what do you mean in the steam structure? I found the file in program (x86)
RellomQ
I'm not sure if you are using steam. But in any case, the physcis folder are not in the documents folder, but in the steam installed folder, or Epic games, or what ever platform you are using.
Like this for steam:
Steam: Local disk:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/common/Football Manager 2020/data/simatch/physics
RellomQ
Their house, their rules. They own the game, and what will happen to it, in the future. But they don't own the files on my computer. Period.
We can bash on SI all we want. That is not gonna change anything, or is helpful at all. We can't force them to communicate, or change how they do things as a company. At least not by bashing heads against the wall.
Giannis Stavroulis
thank you mate , I found it
LokeWoke
markoscouse
It's so obvious someone from SI ordered them to do such an absurd video to discredit the actual effect this "patch" has.
A bit of a tip: every single FM Youtuber, blogger or any sort of content creator is not allowed to criticize FM, SI or Miles because they lose their perks.
Whoever sucks up to them gets featured on their website, gets RTd and promoted in other ways so yeah, don't go to the "famous" guys for valid opinions. I was a part of that community and I know way too many shitty things these people do for SI.
guy vaar
Is this SI using a well known FM youtube channel to show a very very negative version of a physics altered .json or is it simply a**holes trying to white knight? I dont know. However, he/they should be ashamed to put up such a vile, misleading video. Never ever again will I watch one of their videos and will recommend to anyone doing this aswell.
I have also played a bit more with the file on download here, and i have been getting an extraordinaire amount of penalties, like every 2nd match one penalty. At first, in my first season on 2 different teams and leagues, I didn't think it would be a problem and balance itself out in the end, however it did not. The second season at winter break shows also way too many penalties and this, to me, is a bit of a game changer as it effects the outcome of matches heavily. You will start to second guess too much and then the file looses its charme - at least for me. This happened on 2 teams (Kaiserslautern, 3rd german league) and Anderlecht (First Belgium league) that are being played on 2 freshly made for this file savegames with different parameters - one using a large db with everything but the main nation on view only, one using a 100k players db with select countries on playable (which is my go-to savegame method).
LokeWoke
Shame that it turn out this way, was hoping that they atleast make a review about this mod but they made a troll video instead.
Gustavo Monteiro Passos
matt46
Doddo04
RellomQ
About SI, and that goes out to everyone. Unless you directly know something, then please stop speculating. It is nonsense, to try and make sense of something we know nothing about without facts.
About the video, as mentioned here and in the comments on youtube, is what the video is swhowing not the billgates v6 ME file. I have no idea what intentions the man behind the channel or fmscout got, or tries to point out. But it is clearly going to only hurt themself and potential the modding scene and communities behind it, when they put something like this out. That said, do he not mention anything about Billgates or directly his changes. But to me, is it told between the lines, even with the fact, that he calls it "A modding experiment by CAE" ... but also calling it "is the FM20 match Engine physics patch a placebo" that sort of suggest billgates mod on the fmscout forum.
I have suggested to billgates that we take down the mod completely from fmscout, as I can not endorse this youtube video, and I think same goes for 99% of people using the current v6 file. Yes, the physics in the ME file, can "break" the game, or at least the animated part of the match engine and making it completely unrealistic (as in the video,) but we are trying to do the direct opposite, as most people know.
@guy vaar , I would love if you could come to the discord server https://discord.gg/qbKgZe, and bring us some of those statistics. I haven't noticed many fouls, yellow card or red, but I might have overlooked penalties. And it seems we do have sort of the same setup, with many custom database players and a mixed batch of leauges. Would love to see the date, if you have it, or can repruduce the events.
markoscouse
Using Covid as an excuse for shit programming is such a weak excuse, programming is one of the few jobs not affected by distance considering you can literally do it from home just like you can do it in office, and it's 2020 so they're definitely able to communicate in real time about anything they're currently working on.
It's a convenient excuse for why the game will probably be the same as the last 2 versions.
matt46
True but there is no way they’re not gonna use it.
ThrowingCopperFM
They clearly aren’t using this mod.
SI Puppets. I’ve unsubscribed from their channel. No point watching since Omega Luke left anyway.
Leigh (FoxInTheBox)
I've recently been prompted to check this out, so here I am. I was reading through the comments and came across a lot of interesting responses. I'm excited to see what this is like, though feel I may be missing out on some of it as I play in 2D mainly.
I also just wanted to clarify, despite me now producing some content for another site (which is being debated in here) the video posted today on that channel has and had nothing to do with me.
Fox
whatwasthat555
I have noticed now that the simulation AI just seem more realistic compared to the original ME file, the intelligent passes, more realistic randomness and dekes are so enjoyable. I actually prefer watching all matches with "Match Speed During Highlights" turned down the tiniest bit from the default setting, I find the soccer ball is much easier to follow using this setting on my 5yr old laptop lol.
I'm very disappointed with how much negative attention some people are giving this patch. There has always been mods for kits, textures, Name Fixes, Etc. but for some reason, this happened to have struck a nerve. Just let it be and let us enjoy this game, embrace that the game has a large following, listen and work with your supporters.
markoscouse
Just keep in mind it's very much a work in progress!