Introducing Project Classic FM - The biggest update for FM24 and a long goal to keep the old generation of FM alive

How can I report a commentary made in this thread?

@Azrael are you referring to Bielsa's comments or something else? You are welcome to send a PM if you do not wish to speak publicly.

@Bielsa is a Legend could you cut it out so people can report any actual issues.

Noted, apologies

I have installed the classic fm, but i noticed in a new save i started to use the classic fm thing, that every player on the game has their attributes already shown - as in i don't need to scout them, is there a fix to this or is it meant to be like this?

What is it called?

How does this differ to the website data update @Footygamer 

Is the FM Classic update a lot different? Who's maintaining it all, who has the final decision on CA/PA changes etc?

At some point when the mod has a reached a status where the updates are not that urgent and frequent, I think showing changelog and the mod version on the website would be very useful for us to differentiate the versions and know the changes made. By changelog I don't mean list out all of the changes made, maybe just give us a brief descriptions of the update.

None of the attributes for the EFL championship have updated for me? 

Brother, i pay it and when i start a new save its again 2023. In description i saw that you mentioned it will be fixed. Help?

I'm looking through the terms and conditions and I'm not quite sure how this could be enforced.

7. Termination

Your license will terminate automatically if you breach these terms. You must delete the Mod upon termination.

As far as I'm concerned, what would happen if we didn't delete the mod upon termination?  The mod is already against Football Manager's EULA so they can't be notified. So how would that be enforced?

@jackiechan126  It's a bog standard template terms and conditions, i'm pretty sure everything you buy online says you have to delete the product under various circumstances with little realistic ability for enforcement.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean, when you download each file has the date in the zip name

I'll post in here and the r/classicfm subreddit  whenever there's a major update (and probably send an email as well).

Otherwise it's just transfers and contracts each day

Nope it's impossible to start in 2024 with the correct teams in the correct league, i'm working on changing all the world cup, euros, club world cup etc so they happen one year differently as well, but it will always start in the same year unfortunately.

Can you please give more specific examples such as screenshots of your editor data folder and specific players themselves. It's impossible to help without more information unfortunately.

This isn't to do with a data update, this is a setting when starting a new game called “Disable Player Attribute Masking” it's a checkbox at the bottom when selecting your leagues

To answer a question from the r/classicfm subreddit

As for dynamic attributes does it uses setting (i think negative number?) to generate CA/PA within a range or its just fixed numbers based on whatever you put there? And didn't official DB use the same method to kinda randomize stats within range?

The official DB uses random potential for players under 21 and the range is quite broad in a range of 30 e.g. 150-180.

The dynamic player abilities affects all players whatever their age.

It's less broad, so Lewis Dunk will be rated 145-155 for example (not sure if that's true for him just an example).

This allows for variety where he might be Brighton's best defender in one save and 4th best in another. But still realistic so he's not Van Dijk in one save and Championship in another.

And it affects more than just CA/PA it also affects hidden attributes such as reputation, which has a big impact on the game and injury proneness.

Basically it's impossible to say Dunk is reputation 6,500/10,000 and Adam Webster is 6,200/10,000 which is what FM does, since these numbers are kinda random anyway it makes sense to have them slightly more random so Dunk will be 6-7k between saves. This affects his valuation, scouting reports, interested clubs, squad cohesion, player expectations. But only slightly, not enough to be extreme, but enough to make each save unique when applied to all 300,000 players.

To be clear it's not just FM24 data randomised, the ranges described above are only present in the optional files named "dynamic". There is still fixed the data with abilities and reps adjusted to a sensible static value, the ranged values are then built from these custom values not fm24 values.

Hello, I have entered the website to download the Fm Classic db but I no longer see it, is the project finished? I paid a few days ago and downloaded a db, but I wanted to update it

Edit: Done!

glad you saw it now

for anyone else who cant see it,its the big banner on top of the page click on it to access the content

@kingrobbo apologies if this has been answered, but how does this intriguing project differ from the daily update you guys do.

i assume I would have to delete the daily update files and replace with these once subscribed?

thanks

daft question, but if I want to play dynamic, when starting a new game, do I select all of the league updates and one of the dynamic updates or just the dynamic one and nothing else?

Correct me if I'm wrong but inside the editor data is a non dynamic file, you have to delete that and use 1 of the 10 dynamic ones from the optional folder and load everything else as you normally would.

I paid the 5 british pounds where can I get the link ?

It's at the top right for me or click on the view data button on the front page and it should say;

You have Classic FM the Enhanced Data Update including Dynamic Data. You will automatically be given this file when you click download. 

@Footygamer - I popped across to SortItOutSI after a bit of a hiatus to the news that the database update seems to have been rebranded and rolled into something much larger (at least, that is my take on it).

Can I just check - will the concept of this community still driving the data update continue? That is, can we still contribute to the data update? Is the ‘Classic FM’ update effectively a replacement for the SortItOutSI database update in its previous guise? I assume so.

How would you like us to volunteer to help you with this project? I am going to sign up/subscribe because, frankly, I'm indebted to this database update for providing me the most reliable source of an updated game world for years and years. But I'd also like to help out with the project, overall; noting that there is a lot planned.