**UPDATED TO WORK WITH NEW PATCH**
Tested for 3 seasons, no issues found.
This database simulates the Scottish League system down to the Welfare leagues and is accurate as for the 2020/21 season. Levels 1 to 9 have been set up as they are in real life. 59 new Amateur Leagues, 79 new amateur cups, 629 Amateur clubs, 6 Welfare leagues, 17 Welfare cups, 54 Welfare Clubs. Nearly all clubs have correct towns and grounds. lower leagues start the first season in November, most cups are prostponed until season 2. I have tried to find data as accurate as possible, but there will most likely be some descrepancies. I have also rewoked the Scottish Cup to add the correct teams that have SFA membership. Full league System is:

Premiership

Championship

League 1

League 2

Highland/Lowland Leagues

Highland LEague Cup
Lowland League Cup
Southern Region Chalenge Cup
Aberdenshire Cup
Aberdeenshire Shield
North of Scotland Cup
Fife Cup
Glasgow Cup

East of SCotland/West of Scotland/South of Scotland/North Caledonian Leagues
EoS League Cup
EoS Qualifying Cup
King Cup
Alex Jack Cup
SoS League Cup
Haig Gordon Cup
Cree Lodge Cup
Potts Cup
Tweedie Cup
Alba Cup
Southern Counties Challenge Cup
Football Times Cup
Jock Mackay Memorial Cup
North Caledonian Cup

East Reiong Juniors/North Region Juniors
EoS Junior Cup
Inter Regional Cup
North Region Cup
Grill Cup
Jim McPherson Trophy
Morrison Cup
Elginshire Cup
McLeman Cup

Scottish Cup
Betfred Cup
Scottish Challenge Cup
Scottish Junior Cup
Scottish Amateur Cup
Highland Amateur Cup
Scottish Welfare Cup
Highland Welfare Cup

Aberdeenshire AFA:
Premier Division
Division 1 north
Division 1 East
Division 2 North
Division 2 East

Aberdeen FC Trophy
Association Trophy
Dickie Trophy
Premier Trophy
Stephen Shield
White Cup
Castle Rovers Cup
Barclay Cook Cup

Ayrshire AFa:
Premier Division
Diision 1
Division 2A
Division 2B

Ayrshire Challenge Cup

Borders AFA:
League A
League B
League C

Waddell Cup
Border Cup
Beveridge Cup
Wright Cup
Walls Cup
Sanderson Cup
Collie Cup

Caithness AFA:
Division 1

Colin MacLeod Memorial Cup
Davie Allan Shield
Eian Mackintosh Cup

Central Scottish AFA:
Premier Division
Division 1

Cinema Cup
Bunrigh Cup
McAvoy & Mcintyre Trophy
McEwan's Challenge Cup

Dundee Saturday AFA:
Premier
Division 1
Division 2
Ross Kirk Memorial Cup
Belgay Bar Cup
Trident Trophy Cup
Shaun Kelly Memorial Cup

Glasgow & District AFA:
Premier Division
Division 1

GDSML Trophy
William Drummond Cup

Glasgow Colleges AFA
Premier Division
Division 1A
Division 1B

GCFA Cup
Harvey Cup

Inverness AFA
Premier Division
Division 1
Division 2

Assosiation Cup

Kingdon of Fife AFA:
Premier Division
Championship
Division 1

Premier Division League Cup
Championship League Cup
Division 1 League Cup
Taylor Sullivan League Cup

Lewis & Harris AFA:
Division 1

Acre Boys Club Cup
Moldova Lewis Cup
Eilean Fhraoich Cup
Jock Stein Cup
Co-op Cup (with Uist & Barra League)

Lothian & Edinburgh AFA
Premier Division
Lothian East
Lothian West
Edinburgh East
Edinburgh West

Venture Scotland Cup
Rex Gallacher Cup
Victory Cup
Ronnie Travers Cup
Dunedin Cup
Logan Cup
Challenge Cup
Ian McDonald Cup

Midlands AFA
Premier Division
Division 1

Bremner Cup

North West Sutherland AFA
Division 1

Orkney AFA
A League
B League

Isaac Newlands Cup
Heddle Cup
Craigmyle Cup
Oxy Cup
Thomson Cup

Perthshire AFA
Division 1
Division 2
Ashleigh Cup
Perthshire Cup
Smith League Cup

Ross-Shire League
Division 1

Scottish Amateur Football League
Premier
Premier 1
Premier 2

Centenary Cup
Jimmy Marshall Cup
Coronation Cup

Shetland AFA
Premier Division

Fraser Cup
Highland Fuels Cup
Manson Cup
Madrid Cup
County Shield

Skye & Lochalsh AFA
Division 1

GF MacRae Cup
Ross Cup
Ewan MacRae Cup
Clan Donald Cup

Stirling & District AFA
Premier Division
Division 1

Premier League Cup
Division 1 Cup
Mathieson Cup

Strathclyde Evangelical Churches AFA
Premier Division
Division 1

Fraser Trophy

Strathclyde Saturday AFA
Premier
Division A
Division B
Division C

Strathclyde Cup

Uist & Barra AFA
Division 1

Co-op Cup (with Lewis & Harris)

Welfare Leagues

Forres & Nairn WFA
Division 1

Calum Riddell Cup

Forth & Endrick WFA
Division 1

Cameron Cup
Telfer Cup
MGT White Trophy
Rolls Royce Cup
MacGregoer-Fergurson Cup

North East Scotland WFA
Premier
Division 1

Gordon LEask Memorial Cup
Deejays Nightclub Cup
Victoria Coaches Cup

Moray WFA
Division 1

Mike Simpso Cup
WJ Tewnion Cup

Strathspey & Badenoch WFA
Division 1

McCook Cup
Mclean Cup
Stuart Cup
Revack Cup

Club Colours are something I am still working on so there will be an update at some point when I have all the colours corrected.

Although I made this database, a lot of the research was done by @David.Brown6. His work was invaluable to getting this done. If there are any problems with this file, please let me know.
Comments
MillJ67
10 months ago
1 week ago
26
Any chance you will be making an alternative Scottish league set up I.e 20 team premiership with better prize money etc?
jreid0784
7 years ago
2 days ago
87
I will be, the idea I have is for 16 team leagues. Still working on it, but it shouldn't take too long to make. Also looking at adding promotion and relegation to this database from the very bottom league.
Chico54
5 years ago
16 hours ago
10
Woah .
Amazing work .
Thanks .
MillJ67
10 months ago
1 week ago
26
I will be, the idea I have is for 16 team leagues. Still working on it, but it shouldn't take too long to make. Also looking at adding promotion and relegation to this database from the very bottom league.

Perfect, I’ll keep an eye out for that. Thanks!
MillJ67
10 months ago
1 week ago
26
I will be, the idea I have is for 16 team leagues. Still working on it, but it shouldn't take too long to make. Also looking at adding promotion and relegation to this database from the very bottom league.

How long do you reckon before you’re finished? I’ve been trying to make one but just can’t seem to get it to work!
jreid0784
7 years ago
2 days ago
87
How long do you reckon before you’re finished? I’ve been trying to make one but just can’t seem to get it to work!

It should only take a day or two. Haven't got round to it yet as actually managed to play for a few days! If you want, send me what you have and I'll have a look and see if I can get it to work
MillJ67
10 months ago
1 week ago
26
It should only take a day or two. Haven't got round to it yet as actually managed to play for a few days! If you want, send me what you have and I'll have a look and see if I can get it to work

No problems mate I’ll wait till it’s up or if you’re able to will you send me it once it’s ready? Ahh I got rid of it mate, I’m not really familiar with the advanced editor think I totally ballsed up what I was trying to do. I’ll leave to the people who know what they’re doing 😂
kieran mowatt
7 years ago
1 day ago
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your db is similar to William Nicolls although yours reflects real lif and his more a fantasy db with promotion and relegation from the bottom still its a great db and credit has to be given as the scottish pyramid is difficult to create
MillJ67
10 months ago
1 week ago
26
@jreid0784 any word on the alternative league mate? Waiting patiently 😂
jreid0784
7 years ago
2 days ago
87
@jreid0784 any word on the alternative league mate? Waiting patiently 😂


Not quite had time to start it yet. I have all the plans written down so just a case of getting time to get onto the editor. Shouldn't take long once I get started though.
u02jpf6
9 years ago
1 month ago
1
hi does this work on fm20 ? cant get the FMF file to show up in the game or editor
jreid0784
7 years ago
2 days ago
87
By u02jpf6 31 January 2021 - 13:55 PM UTC 

hi does this work on fm20 ? cant get the FMF file to show up in the game or editor 

 

no this is for fm 21. There is a file for fm20 but tjis does not inlude the amateur or welfare leagues https://sortitoutsi.net/content/53069/scottish-pyramid-accurate

Grantsimpson78
6 years ago
5 hours ago
18
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Fantastic work mate, as a Scot i have always wanted Scottish football to have a pyramid system like other countries and the chance to play it on FM is braw!!

 

Just one question do you have a version with just the pyramid without the juniors and amateur clubs?

 

I would be braw if you did.

kingrobbo
11 years ago
7 minutes ago
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By Grantsimpson78 16 February 2021 - 20:27 PM UTC 

Fantastic work mate, as a Scot i have always wanted Scottish football to have a pyramid system like other countries and the chance to play it on FM is braw!!

 

Just one question do you have a version with just the pyramid without the juniors and amateur clubs?

 

I would be braw if you did.

 

well said and love the use of braw top word that😉

Grantsimpson78
6 years ago
5 hours ago
18
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Hi ive been holidaying through some season and ive noticed that the North Caledonian league starts with 13 teams the first season but falls down to 9 in the second.

its the same 4 clubs it removes but it you look at one of the removed clubs info it still has them as part of the league but they have no fixtures. i have added some screen shots. cheers

jreid0784
7 years ago
2 days ago
87
By Grantsimpson78 18 February 2021 - 00:13 AM UTC 

Hi ive been holidaying through some season and ive noticed that the North Caledonian league starts with 13 teams the first season but falls down to 9 in the second.

its the same 4 clubs it removes but it you look at one of the removed clubs info it still has them as part of the league but they have no fixtures. i have added some screen shots. cheers

 

Thanks for that. I know what the issue is. I'll get it sorted and re-linked

jreid0784
7 years ago
2 days ago
87
By Grantsimpson78 16 February 2021 - 20:27 PM UTC 

Fantastic work mate, as a Scot i have always wanted Scottish football to have a pyramid system like other countries and the chance to play it on FM is braw!!

 

Just one question do you have a version with just the pyramid without the juniors and amateur clubs?

 

I would be braw if you did.

 

I have a version I'm still finishing off that is down to the Juniors. Much the same as my databases for older fm's.  Just a few changes need making to it and it will hopefully be up for download in the next week or so.

Grantsimpson78
6 years ago
5 hours ago
18
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By jreid0784 18 February 2021 - 14:05 PM UTC 

Thanks for that. I know what the issue is. I'll get it sorted and re-linked

 

No problem mate. I believe that the north Caledonian league will be a feeder league for the highland football league from next season with the winners and the bottom

highland league playing off any way you could add this in?. would love to take orkney to the top!!

David.Brown6
4 years ago
16 hours ago
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By Grantsimpson78 18 February 2021 - 23:17 PM UTC 

No problem mate. I believe that the north Caledonian league will be a feeder league for the highland football league from next season with the winners and the bottom

highland league playing off any way you could add this in?. would love to take orkney to the top!!

You are correct, there is discussion currently that the North juniors and the NCL will become a feeder league for the HFL. Most likely the relegation will be similar to the SPFL relegation, with a playoff between the winner of the North Juniors (North of Scotland league) and NCL. Or perhaps there might be a North of Scotland league will be a combined NCL and North Juniors. 

 

Grantsimpson78
6 years ago
5 hours ago
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By David.Brown6 19 February 2021 - 10:07 AM UTC 

You are correct, there is discussion currently that the North juniors and the NCL will become a feeder league for the HFL. Most likely the relegation will be similar to the SPFL relegation, with a playoff between the winner of the North Juniors (North of Scotland league) and NCL. Or perhaps there might be a North of Scotland league will be a combined NCL and North Juniors. 

 

Can i ask a question about editing. if you use the editor to look within the game you see competitions in the database that don't appear in the game I.e. the Glasgow cup or the south of Scotland league. is there a simple way to add them?

 

jreid0784
7 years ago
2 days ago
87
By David.Brown6 19 February 2021 - 10:07 AM UTC 

You are correct, there is discussion currently that the North juniors and the NCL will become a feeder league for the HFL. Most likely the relegation will be similar to the SPFL relegation, with a playoff between the winner of the North Juniors (North of Scotland league) and NCL. Or perhaps there might be a North of Scotland league will be a combined NCL and North Juniors. 

 

The database I'm trying to finish off, the North Juniors will move to a North of Scotland League in season 2 or 3 and have a playoff with the NCL for promotion. Because no one seems to know what is happening with the Tayside Juniors I'm also adding them to the NoS. The Lothian Juniors will move to become bottom tier of the EoS leagues. So the setup should work as…….

                                                   HFL                                                                            LL

 

                       NCL                                      NOS                                   EOS                    WOS                           SOS

 

                                                                   NOS1                                 EOS1                 WOS1          

 

                                                                   NOS2                                EOS2                  WOS2

 

                                                                                                             EOS3                  WOS3

 

Thats hat I believe will happen with what information I have read. The Tayside league is the stumbling block as they are above the boundry line they are in the Highland League catchment area but would prefer to play in the Lowland League. I can't see there being any Junior Leagues left in Scotland within 2 years. 

 

Once that Database is done, I'll release another with Playoffs removed and proper promotion and relegation from Prem to the very bottom leagues. 

 

jreid0784
7 years ago
2 days ago
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By Grantsimpson78 19 February 2021 - 19:30 PM UTC 

Can i ask a question about editing. if you use the editor to look within the game you see competitions in the database that don't appear in the game I.e. the Glasgow cup or the south of Scotland league. is there a simple way to add them?

It is easy enough to do, but requires going into the advanced editor. There are loads of tutorials out there, but I find the best way to learn is to look at someone else's work. If I get time I'll write up a wee how to for you for both those competitions if you'd like?

 

David.Brown6
4 years ago
16 hours ago
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By jreid0784 20 February 2021 - 11:54 AM UTC 

The database I'm trying to finish off, the North Juniors will move to a North of Scotland League in season 2 or 3 and have a playoff with the NCL for promotion. Because no one seems to know what is happening with the Tayside Juniors I'm also adding them to the NoS. The Lothian Juniors will move to become bottom tier of the EoS leagues. So the setup should work as…….

                                                   HFL                                                                            LL

 

                       NCL                                      NOS                                   EOS                    WOS                           SOS

 

                                                                   NOS1                                 EOS1                 WOS1          

 

                                                                   NOS2                                EOS2                  WOS2

 

                                                                                                             EOS3                  WOS3

 

Thats hat I believe will happen with what information I have read. The Tayside league is the stumbling block as they are above the boundry line they are in the Highland League catchment area but would prefer to play in the Lowland League. I can't see there being any Junior Leagues left in Scotland within 2 years. 

 

Once that Database is done, I'll release another with Playoffs removed and proper promotion and relegation from Prem to the very bottom leagues. 

 

I believe you are right to have the Tayside juniors into the NOS league, i think due to their promxity, they are closer to the North than to the east. 

jreid0784
7 years ago
2 days ago
87
By David.Brown6 20 February 2021 - 11:56 AM UTC 

I believe you are right to have the Tayside juniors into the NOS league, i think due to their promxity, they are closer to the North than to the east. 

 

This is where the issue arises. A fair few of the teams play in Dundee itself. Just across the river Tay, teams are eligible for the EoS. Also, Luncarty were admitted to the EoS last year. The boundary line splits the village, with the Clubs ground being on the North side of the line, but the bulk of the village on the South. I personally believe is should be a hard boundary and teams on the north go north, south go south. In respect of Luncarty, it's an exceptional case.

David.Brown6
4 years ago
16 hours ago
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By jreid0784 20 February 2021 - 12:02 PM UTC 

This is where the issue arises. A fair few of the teams play in Dundee itself. Just across the river Tay, teams are eligible for the EoS. Also, Luncarty were admitted to the EoS last year. The boundary line splits the village, with the Clubs ground being on the North side of the line, but the bulk of the village on the South. I personally believe is should be a hard boundary and teams on the north go north, south go south. In respect of Luncarty, it's an exceptional case.

 

Yeah i noticed that when inputting their stadium locations. I argee that the river tay should be the hard border on the east side of scotland. North of the Tay you are in the NOS, south of the Tay you are in the EOS. For the clubs in Dundee, I think the NOS would be a good place for them to do, since it will add divsiety and more clubs to compete in the league. Now as it stands there is a healty balance of clubs and divisons between NOS, EOS and WOS. I would also double check, every club is in the right region, since FM has some of them in the wrong cities and local legion. 

Grantsimpson78
6 years ago
5 hours ago
18
Premium
By jreid0784 20 February 2021 - 11:54 AM UTC 

The database I'm trying to finish off, the North Juniors will move to a North of Scotland League in season 2 or 3 and have a playoff with the NCL for promotion. Because no one seems to know what is happening with the Tayside Juniors I'm also adding them to the NoS. The Lothian Juniors will move to become bottom tier of the EoS leagues. So the setup should work as…….

                                                   HFL                                                                            LL

 

                       NCL                                      NOS                                   EOS                    WOS                           SOS

 

                                                                   NOS1                                 EOS1                 WOS1          

 

                                                                   NOS2                                EOS2                  WOS2

 

                                                                                                             EOS3                  WOS3

 

Thats hat I believe will happen with what information I have read. The Tayside league is the stumbling block as they are above the boundry line they are in the Highland League catchment area but would prefer to play in the Lowland League. I can't see there being any Junior Leagues left in Scotland within 2 years. 

 

Once that Database is done, I'll release another with Playoffs removed and proper promotion and relegation from Prem to the very bottom leagues. 

 

I really like the look of this structure mate i think your on to a winner of a pyramid system here. the only thing i would suggest is more cup competitions for the west of Scotland teams, in your current database they only enter the SR challenge cup. Could i suggest west of Scotland cup and a sectional league cup like the had in the junior days?

 

  I agree on the future junior leagues with no juniors left in the west its surely a matter of time before the remaining teams follow

Grantsimpson78
6 years ago
5 hours ago
18
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By jreid0784 20 February 2021 - 11:56 AM UTC 

It is easy enough to do, but requires going into the advanced editor. There are loads of tutorials out there, but I find the best way to learn is to look at someone else's work. If I get time I'll write up a wee how to for you for both those competitions if you'd like?

 

Cheers mate I've watch a few vids i think i could create a basic pre season comp, i know you have the sos league and the Glasgow cup in your database (which is a great addition by the way) id be interested to see how you make a comp like that switching from a group stage to a cup final and the old firm teams using their reserves.

jreid0784
7 years ago
2 days ago
87
By Grantsimpson78 21 February 2021 - 01:03 AM UTC 

Cheers mate I've watch a few vids i think i could create a basic pre season comp, i know you have the sos league and the Glasgow cup in your database (which is a great addition by the way) id be interested to see how you make a comp like that switching from a group stage to a cup final and the old firm teams using their reserves.

 

I'll get something sorted for you to have a look at. It's all to do with stages and making teams qualify for them basically.  Having said that, I'm having issues with the database I'm working on. Can't get teams to stay in the correct divisions after the first season. 

montrosefc
14 years ago
1 day ago
68

Can't use this with latest FM21 patch as file needs verified. Tried this in the editor but got the following message. No idea how to fix this. Can you help?

 

 

jreid0784
7 years ago
2 days ago
87
By montrosefc 25 February 2021 - 11:17 AM UTC 

Can't use this with latest FM21 patch as file needs verified. Tried this in the editor but got the following message. No idea how to fix this. Can you help?

 

I'll have a look, see what the issue is. Did it work fine on the before the new patch? 

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