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I am trying to understand why some records I recently submitted have been rejected 🙂
Am I doing something wrong when submitting them? Are there any guidelines available?
For example, I had a record-breaking period when managing Juventus in Serie A and reached 58 consecutive wins, but the record I submitted has been rejected (twice 🙂): https://sortitoutsi.net/records/submission/3209
Is there any way to learn the reason?
Well, I understand your point and agree that is not realistic, but it is FM.
As I wrote as a comment in another record (the only one that has been accepted so far), I played FM2015 until few months ago, until I was forced to abandon it due to a database error that prevented me to continue (after 190+ seasons). The first thing I noticed after start playing FM2020 is that it is way easier to master the tactics (they did an excellent job with the tactic creation) and, once you do that, to get long series of good results.
Related to the 30 consecutive games without conceding: in FM 2015 it was impossible for me to beat 13-15 matches (I happened once, maybe). In FM2020 I do it regularly.
Then regarding the legitimacy... well, there is no meanings in beating a record by cheating. And it makes no sense to play a FM game cheating (of course I am not talking about the occasional reload after your first division team loses with a 5th division team after 10 posts, 3 penalties missed and 100 shots at 1 - I do it sometimes :/).
You can see from my screenshot that I do have the FM editor, that's not a secret. But using it as you suggest make no sense at all.
You say "There isn't much point in having a record section which accepts submissions which are clearly not achieved legitimately.". Totally agree, but then the question to me becomes: there isn't much point in having a record section at all, if legitimacy is judged on personal intuition or suspect. Let's ask the savegame together with the screenshot then. Mine is available 🙂
😀 this is really funny.
So 49 games won in a row is fine (https://sortitoutsi.net/records/submission/3023), but 58 it is not. 22 league games without conceding (https://sortitoutsi.net/records/submission/3067) or 30 games without conceding (https://sortitoutsi.net/records/submission/2704) are fine, but 30 league games is not. And who sets the limit? (and hen why the steam achievement?)
If it is so, there isn't really much point in having a record section at all as I said above. Hypothetically one could re-play every single game (real fun...) until reaches 22 league games without conceding and it would be fine because 22 is more credible than 30?
Alternative suggestion: keep only the records that cannot be "faked", if any.
Alternative suggestion: don't submit records which are clearly impossible to achieve without resorting to shenanigans.
P.S. Not sure if it was me who approved the latter 2, but I've now rejected them on the same basis as your submissions.
Even more funny! 😀 😀
Ok, unfortunately I have no means of proving you that my records are valid (same way you do not have means to prove that they are not), so I will simply give up submitting them. Please also reject this one (that is mine): https://sortitoutsi.net/records/submission/3192, since it was achieved during the 30 matches without conceding that has been rejected.
Feel also free to give a look at my FM15 records, for example https://sortitoutsi.net/records/submission/1583, https://sortitoutsi.net/records/submission/2262, https://sortitoutsi.net/records/submission/3032. Based on your philosophy, it is clear that they are impossible to achieve (though I really achieved them, but whatever!).
As a final note, I really like this record-thing and I understand that there is no way to prove or disprove without any doubt if a record is legitimate or not. I also appreciate your dedication and severe approach to the thing, but in this way everything becomes kind of arbitrary and based on personal ideas of what is possible in the game and what is not. From a pure statistical point of view, everything is basically possible: it is just a matter of how long you play! I can tell you that in my previous 190+ season save I have seen many rare events and sequences 🙂
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