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And? Newcastle compensated Everton a 6 figure sum for that.
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Personally I feel it shouldn't matter whether the referee has seen or didn't see an incident.

Referees make mistakes, so the FA should have the power to look at the footage and say that tackle was reckless (regardless of intent) and therefore warrants a red card/three game ban...
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And Nolan got a 3 game ban.

Completely irrelevant photo.
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In fact, Nolan got a red card for that

What's your point?
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By Poe | Permalink | On 19 March 2013 - 16:29 PM
In fact, Nolan got a red card for that

What's your point?


If you've ever had a player sent off for a bad challenge, you can't complain about any bad challenges on your players
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By Slashman X | Permalink | On 19 March 2013 - 16:32 PM
If you've ever had a player sent off for a bad challenge, you can't complain about any bad challenges on your players


Ah, silly me.

Probably should give McManaman a payrise in that case.
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By Poe | Permalink | On 19 March 2013 - 16:15 PM
If Wigan stay up they have cheated their way to Premier League survival.

Well that's rubbish.
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By bluemoon. | Permalink | On 19 March 2013 - 16:43 PM
Well that's rubbish.


Not really, they a) shouldn't have won on Sunday, and b) will have a player available for the relegation run-in that shouldn't have been.
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Poe's heads gone.
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Bollocks, you get relegated over 38 games, and you don't stay up just by beating an under-performing mid-table team 2-1 at home.
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John Carver is being charged by the FA.
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By Poe | Permalink | On 19 March 2013 - 16:44 PM
Not really, they a) shouldn't have won on Sunday, and b) will have a player available for the relegation run-in that shouldn't have been.

It's not true because:
a.) It's not their fault the FA have failed to punish them.
b.) it wasn't cheating - it was a bad foul, not match-fixing.
c.) even if he scores the winning goal in every remaining Wigan game, you can't definitively say he is the reason they stayed/will stay up.

Also: What Jay said.
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I meant the clear handball that led to their winner actually

And yes it's over a 38 game season, but 4 games have been blighted by an absolutely awful decision and subsequent ruling. You two would be the first to complain if RVP/Aguero done the same and got away with it then went on to change the course of the season. I'm not arsed as were probably safe anyway. But QPR, Villa and Sunderland might have a right to moan.
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By Poe | Permalink | On 19 March 2013 - 17:06 PM
I meant the clear handball that led to their winner actually

And yes it's over a 38 game season, but 4 games have been blighted by an absolutely awful decision and subsequent ruling. You two would be the first to complain if RVP/Aguero done the same and got away with it then went on to change the course of the season. I'm not arsed as were probably safe anyway. But QPR, Villa and Sunderland might have a right to moan.


Actually, you're wrong. United fans, including myself, were complaining to high heaven about the decision that got Nani sent off, it doesn't mean Real Madrid cheated or that if they go on and win the Champion's league it will be because they are cheaters.
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Slightly different as he was punished on the field and the entire hierarchy at Madrid agreed with Man United instead of attempting to defend a thuggish challenge.
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By Poe | Permalink | On 19 March 2013 - 17:22 PM
Slightly different as he was punished on the field and the entire hierarchy at Madrid agreed with Man United instead of attempting to defend a thuggish challenge.


Only Dave Whelan has defended him, and he's an old man.
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Exactly, the Wigan chairman. Leaves a bad taste. I'd say I was dissapointed by the FA but I expected it. Corrupt organisation.
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This is just an incomprehensible decision.

He should have been sent off at the time and the fact they have not punished him, both with a lino looking the other way and now this, is ballsy. We should add the FA to the lawsuit for gross incompetence and failing to protect players. I didn't think it as a good idea at first but if the FA are going to be this incompetent then why the fuck shouldn't we?
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By Poe | Permalink | On 19 March 2013 - 17:45 PM
Exactly, the Wigan chairman. Leaves a bad taste. I'd say I was dissapointed by the FA but I expected it. Corrupt organisation.


Definitely dissappointed by the FA, and they may be corrupt in other ways. But in this case I don't really see the corruption in it - it's more a case of following the poorly thought out rules they've put in place.
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The FA is so not corrupt that it actually followed its own rules and regulation to the dogmatic point of actually going against commonsense reasoning. Therefore, Dave Whelan is so old he probably struggles to remember where he is of a morning, so one overexcited pensioner does not even remotely adequate with the level of scorn you are heaping on Wigan the football club. Condemning Wigan because of Whelan's comments is like accusing Blackburn Rovers of battery farming chickens.
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By Jaygull | Permalink | On 19 March 2013 - 17:53 PM
The FA is so not corrupt that it actually followed its own rules and regulation to the dogmatic point of actually going against commonsense reasoning. Therefore, Dave Whelan is so old he probably struggles to remember where he is of a morning, so one overexcited pensioner does not even remotely adequate with the level of scorn you are heaping on Wigan the football club. Condemning Wigan because of Whelan's comments is like accusing Blackburn Rovers of battery farming chickens.


This may not be an instance of corruption but it definitely is in other aspects.

Martinez also defended the challenge - saying "he's not that type of player" when he clearly is and has a history of it, as Man City fans should know. The level of abuse being aimed at Haidara on Twitter by their fans is also disgusting and has further soured relations.

I for one hope they are relegated, however the 4 primary candidates - QPR, Villa, Sunderland and Wigan are all clubs I don't hold much respect for. Sunderland probably the most, which is saying something.
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Callum McManaman made his full Premier League debut days ago, you couldn't really know less about him as a player, never mind as a person. Twitter is once again completely irrelevant and unconnected to Wigan- if we had to go by Twitter messages sent by the most vocal of the football fans on the internet as a guide to club reputations, there wouldn't a single professional club on planet Earth that hasn't been tarnished by a collection of cunts at one point or another.
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By Jaygull | Permalink | On 19 March 2013 - 18:28 PM
Callum McManaman made his full Premier League debut days ago, you couldn't really know less about him as a player, never mind as a person. Twitter is once again completely irrelevant and unconnected to Wigan- if we had to go by Twitter messages sent by the most vocal of the football fans on the internet as a guide to club reputations, there wouldn't a single professional club on planet Earth that hasn't been tarnished by a collection of cunts at one point or another.


So what can I use to make my decisions? You've discarded the player in question, the manager, the fans and the chairman?

He's done the same in reserve matches, just ask Gai Assulin.
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You mean a minority of fans, the manager who has done very little wrong, a chairman who was expressing his personal opinion and a player who has only played a handful of professional games?

And what decision? You don't have to make any knee-jerk decisions, you can just calm down and argue that the rules ought to be changed because McManaman didn't get charged. No-one is asking you to make generalizations about Wigan, you started doing it on your own. You're the one accusing the FA of being corrupt and saying that Wigan would be cheating if they survived in the Premier League- if these are the judgement calls you are making, then you're just embarrassing yourself.
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Davide Santon has pulled up with a muscle injury.

Fucking hell how can this possibly get any worse?
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By Number 1 | Permalink | On 19 March 2013 - 19:46 PM
Davide Santon has pulled up with a muscle injury.

Fucking hell how can this possibly get any worse?


I guess that means Simpson and Gutierrez or Perch at fullback
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By Pippadoc | Permalink | On 19 March 2013 - 19:51 PM
I guess that means Simpson and Gutierrez or Perch at fullback

There's been calls from some fans that Gutierrez should be at full back with Santon in a winger slot as they seem to do better and given Santon has been continually caught out in recent fixtures it can't do any harm. But it is hardly helpful we have lost all our players, especially in such awful circumstances as last Sunday's match.
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"What you need to look at in those incidents is if there is intention, a nastiness about the tackle. We are not a nasty team," he said.
"He (McManaman) has not a nasty bone and is not bad-intentioned.
"The referee was in a perfect position, he is looking at the incident, where the ball is and where the ball is hitting.
"When you get the ball and then there is a follow-up it is very difficult for a panel to punish that."


Implying that it is a enthusiastic challenge, and an unfortunate accident. Which it wasn't.

Anyway FA need to sort out their regulations the current ones are completely wrong. Newcastle are right to pursue legal costs. As was Victor Anichebe. Newcastle have also sued their own fans this season twice.
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By Crane | Permalink | On 19 March 2013 - 16:27 PM
And? Newcastle compensated Everton a 6 figure sum for that.


Anichebe got the money for loss of earnings.

By Poe | Permalink | On 19 March 2013 - 16:29 PM
And Nolan got a 3 game ban.

Completely irrelevant photo.


By Poe | Permalink | On 19 March 2013 - 16:29 PM
In fact, Nolan got a red card for that

What's your point?


There is no point, I was bored

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