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Alright, fair enough.

Although I don't understand why you directed three paragraphs about Rooney at my post when I didn't actually mention/defend him once.

It wasn't just at you. I rambled a bit - just like Martin Tyler (lol)
2-2, cracking goal and game.
Great game this.
The commentator says there are only two midlands teams in the Premiership this season, do Stoke not count?

Still, great game and comeback by Villa.
The commentator says there are only two midlands teams in the Premiership this season, do Stoke not count?

Still, great game and comeback by Villa.

Stoke are a tricky team to locate. Its probably on the borderline between Midlands and Northern England... North Midlands?
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It's part of Staffordshire which is definatly one of the counties that forms what is traditionally known as the Midlands, West Bromwich was also part of Staffordshire until the recognition of the West Midlands as a county in the 70's
Fuck Stoke.
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Stoke is definitely not in the north of England

I like Stoke, I got to feel my first pair of boobies during a school trip to water world there.
I like Stoke, I got to feel my first pair of boobies during a school trip to water world there.


Haha, now that you've mentioned this, I think you should tell us the full story.
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Haha, now that you've mentioned this, I think you should tell us the full story.

Pretty much what it sounds like, a girl I liked let me stick my hands under her bikini top whist we were in a jacuzzi/hot tub at this water park. I re-paid the favour by speanding the money my parents had given me for the trip on buying her a subway...romance.

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Rumours flying around on Twitter that Carroll will have to retire due to his injury problems. No reliable sources as of yet though.
Fuck off I have no injury problems
But you should be put down.
I swear Cleverly was supposed to be the dogs bollocks according to United fans before. How are they now saying hes not overrated cause no one rates him now?


When he first broke on to the scene at United he had come off the back of two reasonably impressive loan spells at Watford and Wigan, and had looked really sharp in pre-season (probably man of the match against Barca in one of those games) then for the first few games him and Anderson formed a midfield partnership that saw us play probably our most attractive football in absolute donkeys years (we also couldn't defend when we played those two, but it was fun none the less)

Then he got injured by that cunt Kevin Davis and has done precisely fuck all since, probably gone backwards in all honesty.

Maybe he can still turn in to a decent player, but he's running out of time.

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When he first broke on to the scene at United he had come off the back of too reasonably impressive loan spells at Watford and Wigan, and had looked really sharp in pre-season (probably man of the match against Barca in one of those games) then for the first few games him and Anderson formed a midfield partnership that saw us play probably our most attractive football in absolute donkeys years (we also couldn't defend when we played those two, but it was fun none the less)

Then he got injured by that cunt Kevin Davis and has done precisely fuck all since, probably gone backwards in all honesty.

Maybe he can still turn in to a decent player, but he's running out of time.


Was that the time we beat Arsenal 8-2 and Bolton 5-0? We were playing some fantastic stuff then.
Was that the time we beat Arsenal 8-2 and Bolton 5-0? We were playing some fantastic stuff then.


Yep, this was the team that played Arsenal.

01 De Gea
03 Evra
04 Jones
06 Evans
12 Smalling
08 Anderson (Giggs - 68' )
17 Nani (Park Ji-sung - 68' )
18 Young
23 Cleverley
10 Rooney
19 Welbeck (Hernandez - 35' )

Also played Spurs off the park before he got injured against Bolton.
Tbf he's not that bad of a player, although right now he is not Man United quality and it is showing. Thing with United players is once people get on their backs they never really seem to recover, same with the likes of Anderson who had a good first season or two but then I remember him getting an injury and once he came back he was a bit shit and never really recovered.

But there is every chance Cleverley could become a good United player. If anything look at the likes of Leiva, I'd say even Henderson even though people on here reckon he's shit.. They've managed to eventually come back after a lot of criticism and I'm quite impressed with them at Liverpool now.
Tbf he's not that bad of a player, although right now he is not Man United quality and it is showing. Thing with United players is once people get on their backs they never really seem to recover, same with the likes of Anderson who had a good first season or two but then I remember him getting an injury and once he came back he was a bit shit and never really recovered.

But there is every chance Cleverley could become a good United player. If anything look at the likes of Leiva, I'd say even Henderson even though people on here reckon he's shit.. They've managed to eventually come back after a lot of criticism and I'm quite impressed with them at Liverpool now.


I don't think Cleverley is really good at enough at the minute to fill me with confidence that he's going to flourish into a fantastic player.

In fairness, I think we're the wrong team for him, he's a very good one touch passer and plays quick ball very very well. The problem is we are incredibly slow and our movement is usually abysmal meaning he has to hold on to the ball and think about it, which he's not so good at. Not that I am saying they should sign him, obviously, but I think he'd be a good fit for the way Dortmund play their football.

I still think there's some talent of some sort there, but I just don't know if he can be shaped into a truly useful player for us.
Our midfield looks dreadful, and yet Jesse Lingard and Nick Powell are doing brilliantly on loan by all accounts.

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Are you really suggesting they should be here at the minute though?
Not necessarily, but if we were to splash out in the summer, we might end up blocking their chances when they return. Besides, Lingard in pre-season looked ready for the first team.
Not necessarily, but if we were to splash out in the summer, we might end up blocking their chances when they return. Besides, Lingard in pre-season looked ready for the first team.


Ideally we'll ship Young out and replace him with Lingard/Zaha. Probably too much of a risk for Moyes though.

As for Powell he's got obvious talent, but I think he's a long way from being close to selection in the midfield. Besides, if we by someone competent then hopefully that means we can just remove the dross and use the likes of Powell as squad players till they're ready.
Isn't Powell playing basically up front at Wigan?
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Not sure, he was, but that was because Holt was injured and since he's come back I think he's been playing a little deeper.

Coyle certainly refers to him as a striker, but he'll play deeper when he's here I'm sure.
Stoke is in the West Midlands. But it doesn't feel like it.

Source: Go to uni near Stoke.
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