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Humberto21
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@bakizp Help me understand, are these clubs two different clubs, or is it the same (two different databases)? On fm23 I only find this id 2000020194.

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By Humberto21 29 January 2024 - 17:08 PM UTC 

@bakizp Help me understand, are these clubs two different clubs, or is it the same (two different databases)? On fm23 I only find this id 2000020194.

 

I remember the original Bury gone into administration and then there was phoenix club, but now my brain is melting after reading this on Wikipedia

 

" In November 2020, the club was placed into administration In February 2022, Bury fans' group Est.1885 completed the purchase of Gigg Lane from the administrator and announced that they had acquired the trading name, history and memorabilia of Bury FC. After the sale was completed, efforts began to bring professional football back to Bury. In October 2022 supporters were urged to vote in a poll regarding a potential amalgamation of the Bury Football Club Supporters' Society (who owned Gigg Lane and the "Bury FC" trading name) and the Shakers Community Society (who owned phoenix club Bury AFC). The proposals initially failed to reach the required 66% threshold from both societies, but, on 5 May 2023, the merger of both societies was approved following a second poll. Bury AFC adopted the Bury FC playing name ahead of the 2023–24 season and returned to Gigg Lane, following an FA approval announced on 5 June 2023. Upon merging, the two team's histories were combined — retroactively counting Bury AFC's seasons as seasons for Bury FC. "

 

Maybe you can resolve this ?

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By bakizp 29 January 2024 - 23:09 PM UTC 

I remember the original Bury gone into administration and then there was phoenix club, but now my brain is melting after reading this on Wikipedia

 

" In November 2020, the club was placed into administration In February 2022, Bury fans' group Est.1885 completed the purchase of Gigg Lane from the administrator and announced that they had acquired the trading name, history and memorabilia of Bury FC. After the sale was completed, efforts began to bring professional football back to Bury. In October 2022 supporters were urged to vote in a poll regarding a potential amalgamation of the Bury Football Club Supporters' Society (who owned Gigg Lane and the "Bury FC" trading name) and the Shakers Community Society (who owned phoenix club Bury AFC). The proposals initially failed to reach the required 66% threshold from both societies, but, on 5 May 2023, the merger of both societies was approved following a second poll. Bury AFC adopted the Bury FC playing name ahead of the 2023–24 season and returned to Gigg Lane, following an FA approval announced on 5 June 2023. Upon merging, the two team's histories were combined — retroactively counting Bury AFC's seasons as seasons for Bury FC. "

 

Maybe you can resolve this ?

 

Most likely, after the news that the "new" club has once again obtained the club's historic palmares, it was decided to use their historic id again (starting from fm24). In fact, on fm 23 I have the "bury" with the year of creation 2019.

bury in fm23 
“old” name .. bury afc (until fm23)

if you have fm24 I think you will see the bury with its historical id and the old and new palmares.

bakizp
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Ok @Humberto21 , so do we need some changes regarding logos?

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By bakizp 30 January 2024 - 12:21 PM UTC 

Ok @Humberto21 , so do we need some changes regarding logos?

 

I too have many doubts. the historic club Bury https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.550895180408953&type=3 continued to have the same logo (but I honestly don't know their recent football history), instead there is this other bury, "Bury AFC" https://buryafc.uk/ which has the logo currently present in this id, but even in this case, I don't know their football history, I haven't understood if this last club actually played the last seasons as senior first team or not.

Ultimately, I would leave the current logo in this id.. looking at the images on facebook (Bury AFC https://www.facebook.com/OfficialBuryAFC/photos_by ) they actually use this logo (season 22-23). Most likely, they returned to the "old" with the new season (23-24).